Who Created God? John Lennox at The Veritas Forum at UCLA

Something to help confused oaks! Think carefully about what i s said.

Who created God

Man created God. 

Richard Dawkins a "real scientist" admires the bible as a fantastic work of fiction.  

He also says that everyone is at least 99% atheist, because they do not believe in 99% of the religions that mankind has created.

Whether He's eternal or whether He's a creation himself is beyond any man to fathom.

We can sit and debate this till the cows come home, and still walk away without an answer ... without the truth. That is how He's designed it. He is the architect of it all. It's how He wants it.

We can not be absolutely sure that there aren't vastly superior beings above and beyond him. 

He says that He is the only God ... and it comes down to one thing ... do you believe Him?

Is His word trustworthy?

Have you ever put His word to the test? Have you adhered to his statutes ... and come away with an empty feeling after prayer? Have you taken to heart His promises in Psalms for the protection of a ll those who love Hm ... only to see your child die horribly under a tractor tyre.

Turns out that His word is not as reliable as first thought. Turns out that He may very well be a liar.

So no ... I don't think it's wise to take His word on anything. Job did and look what happened to him.

God exits ... but ... where does He come from?

Who knows. He's certainly gone out of his way to keep that hidden from us.

I wonder why?

Is there something to hide?

John Lennox certainly thinks a lot of himself. An authority on something he knows nothing about. Like the rest of us.

I do not think people should argue  on the basis as the above arguments are based. ancient mankind had developed  gods based n objects of natural occurrence to influence their lives 0 eg sun, moon, rain, thunder, bulls cows, stars, etc.

Through  tine some of the ancient philosophers realize that there must be a different philosophy to organize  the increasing population and they natural gods were replaced by human gods as a means to lay down norms for behavior of people in a move to politically control the populace.   That in the longer run  became the norm central to any religion.

It was already clear that the ide of humans as gods was not the answer and wit time the one God concept developed by some philosophers and that took root I Egypt and Sumeria with time,   The Jews took that principle of one God as the norm.   

Religion used to be and to a large extent is based on rules governing human behavior and mist people n the world are really part of religions basically used,   Religion is what made society what it is at present,  

I have no problem with the issue of God  and what keeps  going is adherence to behavourial laws  like the Ten Commanments and health rules about eating of pork still applied by the Hews and the Muslims.           .

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"Whether He's eternal or whether He's a creation himself is beyond any man to fathom."

Perhaps the details might be too complicated to fathom, but the idea itself isn't. The fact that you constructed that sentence means you're able to understand the concept, albeit abstractly. Right?

Just playing devil's advocate.

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