World War Worries

Do any of you think that this latest Ukraine war, or even anything else that Putin could do in the near future, with Sweden or Poland, could ever escalate in to becoming our 3rd world war?

Do you think the people closest to Putin would ever let him personally start a nuclear war with the West, or would they take him out if they could see that he was just about to go ahead and initiate it......

This new Satan-2 missile that Russia has developed, cannot be monitored by any country, due to it's extremely low and fast ignition time, making it undetectable from launch or flight, and it will bypass all anti-missile detection systems around the world, because apparently it travels at 7km per second.

This missile is also supposed to be 2 000 - 3 000 times more powerful than the atomic bomb that hit Hiroshima..... that is quite ridiculous.

Apparently, just this one missile could wipe out the entire UK, or France, or a state the size of Texas in the USA.

I cannot even fathom the horror of that happening around the world.... but, imagine Putin starts invading and bombing Sweden or Poland, for wanting to join NATO.... 

I think the only solution is to kill Putin.
As long as he is alive, the chance of world war 3 is increasingly lightly. His intentions are clear, to continue attacking countries with false pretext motives so he can grab as much land as possible. 

Maybe America should give Ukraine the drone hit machine that was used to kill Saruman in Iraq. Or to have sharks with friggen lazer beams that can zap Putin

 
Nato needs to admit all EU countries that want to join NATO as soon as possible.

See how Putin quotes God during his speeches. The Russian Orthodox Church support the invasion of Ukraine, as they still believe these people are part of their faith. 

The one saving grace to a nuclear war is there are no winners.

The biggest concern is a lunatic that would take mankind with him because his ego is so big and he has no regard for human life.

Pitin has shown he has no regard for life, it is a waiting game to see how big his ego actually is.

Crazy to think that Putin has a weapon, that is unmarked, untraceable, undetectable.... and it can hit anywhere on this planet, and take out something as big as the entire UK.... within 30 minutes...

Look at it any way you want to..... that is a sobering thought

As Dr Strangelove said ….the whole point of a doomsday weapon is to tell everybody you have it. Putin has done that and no doubt it is already having some effect. Is he capable of pushing the button if he gets a terminal disease? Who knows…..these personality cults are scary.

If a president was killed in the West, it is easy to quickly replace them with a new one. 
If Putin is killed, he does not appear to have a second in line to the throne

Oh I am sure that a back-up is in place fortunately not one that you would desire though.

Problem is, apparently Biden was elected by a large group of people.

So do we trust crowds more?

Excellent valid point Plum

I would personally much rather have a majority making a very difficult decision, than just one lone... possibly sick.... or mentally unstable.... or incapable individual.....

"At least, in principle anyway, an individual is easier to stop than what millions are"

Fully agree, but then it would be the majority that I am actually referring to, that would stop the individual....

I see the problem from both sides ...

Under Biden's watch Europe is united and Ukraine has the full support of the USA.

This crisis wouldn’t have happened if Trump was president. That’s the point. He had opened up lines of communication with Putin that more than likely would have prevented this mess. Biden is so stiff and far gone, he simply couldn’t connect in any way with an aberrant character like Putin. 

Putin clearly connected with Trump, understood what he wanted. Trump’s presidency was a quiet period with respect to international conflict, because he was seen as strong. Biden is seen as weak so every bad actor is chancing his arm. Under Trump all these guys were on the defensive, including China.

Ukraine is another Biden failure, just like the exit from Afghanistan. The  so called unity in Europe has nothing to do with this geriatric. The Europeans have finally woken up from their Russian dream . In the meantime a country has been destroyed, the price of weakness.

Not convinced Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine even if Trump was still POTUS. Putin had an 8 year old war going with Ukraine, had taken over Crimea on the Obama/Trump watch, was suckered by the North Korean president and  the Chinese were sniggering at him while so called negotiations were taking place. We really don't know what the monster in Putin was up to, to me it seems he was playing Trump so too was the North Korean president and perhaps one can argue that Trump's presence delayed the invasion but I doubt whether the presence of any POTUS was going to stop the dictator. I guess that's why we have wars.

If it wasn't for Trump, Biden would never have been POTUS......people voted Biden only because they didn't like Trump not because they thought Biden competent. Trump's biggest mistake was to take on the media at his rallies and at WH press conferences. Obama was smart, he played the media and won himself two terms. No-one wins going toe to toe with the media. The media's role is to create controversy, no-one buys boring, Trump is tailor made for the role. If he wants to win the next election he'll have to learn to box smart with the media.

Yes I agree with that….the media influences the undecideds….the undecideds win elections. Trump couldn’t win just with the right.

As for Trump vs the despots. I agree China and N Korea weren’t negotiating in good faith. But Trump forced them to react to a series of unexpected challenges…..which not only surfaced a lot of the issues, but. by calling them out, made it harder to for them to pursue these avenues going forward. 

And to the point about the press, in an effort to get Trump, they also trashed a lot of his initiatives, which made taking on China virtually impossible. To do that effectively the country had to present a unified stance, which was never going to happen.

It doesn’t help when a foreign minister says this:

‘ Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has warned that the conflict in Ukraine risked escalating into a third world war and that NATO was “in essence” engaged in a proxy war with Moscow by supplying Kyiv with weapons.’

Damn irresponsible….these mafiosi are off the reservation. Old men making trouble.

It seems we in the UK are first in line for neutralisation. 

It’s been nice knowing you all

Irresponsible yes but a scare tactic nevertheless, Putin and company sound desperate knowing full well that the USA has more nukes. He wouldn't dare.