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Started by Rooinek52 REPLIES2,247 VIEWS· 05 May 2024, 18:41
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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
10 May 2024, 23:49
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10 May 2024, 23:49#41

Nope, you (USA) should have prevented the war in the first place...like Trump did for 4 years

Correlation does not equal causation. 

the warmongers in DC are content for it to continue indefinitely...no urgency to stop it

The Warmonger is in the Kremlin. DC is trying to find a balancing between supporting Ukraine's perfectly legitimate right to self defence and avoid escalating into a full on confrontation between Russia and the west.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 May 2024, 05:14
#42
11 May 2024, 05:14#42

"Correlation does not equal causation. "

Indeed...we'll never known what would have happened unde 4 more years of Trump...


BTW, I don't like Biden, but that's where it stops. I can't understand the intense hatred some people have for Trump...a lot of people...very odd.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 May 2024, 09:40
#43
11 May 2024, 09:40#43

I can't understand the intense hatred some people have for Trump Biden...a lot of people...very odd.

You mean your mate Sic kMike!?

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 May 2024, 09:46
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11 May 2024, 09:46#44

Indeed...we'll never known what would have happened unde 4 more years of Trump...

So why are you saying Trump prevented a war happening for 4 years.

BTW, I don't like Biden, but that's where it stops. I can't understand the intense hatred some people have for Trump...a lot of people...very odd.

Its not hatred to point out that there is no evidence to support the claim that Trump prevented the Ukraine war for 4 years. 


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 May 2024, 09:58
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11 May 2024, 09:58#45

Trump had no intentions of supplying Ukraine....he wouldn't upset his hero, Putin.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 May 2024, 10:45
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11 May 2024, 10:45#46

Trump had no intentions of supplying Ukraine....he wouldn't upset his hero, Putin.

He actually did authorize lethal aid to Ukraine during his term in office but I don't believe it was actually shipped out before the conflict started.

More recently he wanted to block military aid to Ukraine for his own political reasons but I think he realised it was making him look bad so he relented.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 May 2024, 10:52
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11 May 2024, 10:52#47

Wasn't aid based on Zelensky digging the dirt on Hunter Biden?

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 May 2024, 11:35
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11 May 2024, 11:35#48

I think that aid with already approved by then, it was later Tr ump withheld it to put pressure on Zelensky.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 May 2024, 12:22
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11 May 2024, 12:22#49

"So why are you saying Trump prevented a war happening for 4 years."

Because there was sh!t in Ukraine before his term...and shortly after his term, but nothing during his term...anecdotal,  but still a significant data point...like the price of Brent prior to his presidency and shortly after...all coincidental I'm sure...

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 May 2024, 12:25
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11 May 2024, 12:25#50

"I think that aid with already approved by then, it was later Trump withheld it to put pressure on Zelensky."

He put pressure on Zelensky to expose obvi ous corruption...and that's a bad thing?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 May 2024, 12:27
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11 May 2024, 12:27#51

"Wasn't aid based on Zelensky digging the dirt on Hunter Biden?"

No need to dig up dirt...it was obvious...the pressure was applied to acknowledge the corruption and not expose it ...

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
11 May 2024, 12:54
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11 May 2024, 12:54#52
ButtPlug, ChatGPT did not know anything about DumbMike, or at least not until I used it to edit my own comments. I am not going to credit Chat GPT to be my grammar editor.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
12 May 2024, 06:57
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12 May 2024, 06:57#53

I think that aid with already approved by then, it was later Trump withheld it to put pressure on Zelensky.

Kinda six of one half a dozen of another....aid had been approved but held back unless Zelensky provided the alleged dirt on Hunter Biden. It sounds like Trump was holding a gun to Zelensky's head.

Supply the dirt and I'll order the release but if you don't........

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