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Would, wouldn't - it's all the same for Trump

Started by Koos Kombuis54 REPLIES1,047 VIEWS· 18 Jul 2018, 12:46
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DbDraad
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jul 2018, 18:35
#41
21 Jul 2018, 18:35#41

Rooi, first off, special council has been trying to find proof of collusion for more than a year and they have found nothing.

Russia has been trying to influence elections, amongst other things, for years. As does America in Russia and wherever they think their interests can be improved.  Reducing the significance of the whole summit to what Trump said about Russian interference is where the media and you seems to be missing the pot. It's not about diplomacy and licking arse. It's actually about getting things done.

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21 Jul 2018, 18:44
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21 Jul 2018, 18:44#42

And BTW, I don't like Trump. I hated "The Apprentice" and I think he is a real dick...but, I love what he is doing.

Enforcing the actual law of the country.

Enforcing the law by enforcing emigration laws...pure evil right?

Putting his country first in deals with other countries? He's got some nerve doing that hey.?


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21 Jul 2018, 18:47
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21 Jul 2018, 18:47#43

PS, Rooi, what does being left means to you? Is it only being anti religion or is there more to it?

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21 Jul 2018, 19:05
#44
21 Jul 2018, 19:05#44

...the emigration laws lol...

Draad not much difference between South Africans being run out of their country out of fear and those being chased out of South America out of fear is there? I thought someone from SA would be more empathetic to others plights given many Saffas are fleeing their country themselves...

And also what you don't hear about is a lot of these South American countries those people are running from have been fucked up by US interventions...  

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Koos Kombuis
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21 Jul 2018, 19:12
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21 Jul 2018, 19:12#45
DbDraad, this is a waste of time. You're not debating, you're arguing like a little child.
If you (and others) want to avoid the issues I raised in the OP by rattling off all the good things you think Trump has done then go ahead and start a thread about it. This topic is a bit more specific. It's about Trump's performance at the Helsinki summit and I wanted to know which of the Trumpanzees had anything to say about the fact that Trump supported Putin over his own intelligence agencies and what they thought of his pathetic attempts to back-track on what he said (and who he made the retraction to).
Your efforts to debate the issues I raised were to say that everyone who didn't predict a Trump victory is a liar and to blame it all on the media twisting everything. 
The only other comment you've made which is even vaguely on topic is your latest statement that no proof of collusion was found. That is just plain wrong. Just do a few Google searches and read up for yourself on the facts. The CIA, the FBI and the NSA found proof of collusion and briefed Trump accordingly before the summit. You and I can debate whether they're right or wrong about that collusion or meddling but it doesn't change the fact that Trump was briefed and that is the only pertinent fact with r egards to this topic. He went against his own intelligence agencies and backed Putin instead.
Now I'm asking you to expand on what it was that the media twisted and you're babbling on about all the wonderful things Trump has done again.
If you have something intelligent to add to the debate then please go ahead and answer the fair and valid questions I've asked. If you just want to talk about Trump in general then go ahead and start your own thread.
Anyone else? Any other Trumpanzees out there who want to comment on Trump's allegiances and his subsequent back-tracking?
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21 Jul 2018, 19:26
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21 Jul 2018, 19:26#46

Shit Rooi, I didn't read half that, but you seem to be arguing that Trump is a ashole. Churchill was one too, but he was needed at the time. I'm not saying Trump covered himself in glory in Helsinki, I'm saying it's not the desaster you make it out to be. Debating you say? It's not debating if you set the parameters to your liking.

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Koos Kombuis
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22 Jul 2018, 10:02
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22 Jul 2018, 10:02#47
Not sure which half of this comment you choose to read but please note that whenever any poster starts a thread, like it or not, they are actually setting the parameters for the discussion or debate that follows. 
Not my rules, just the way things work on a discussion forum. If you don't like that then start your own thread about whatever it is you want to talk about.
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23 Jul 2018, 05:44
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23 Jul 2018, 05:44#48
'You are arguing like a little child'....case closed it's Urinal. But let me disabuse you....nobody sets the parameters for any string, the originator or anybody else....and if you don't believe me, try to enforce your rule. Or perhaps you could have another hissyfit and mess up the margins again.
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23 Jul 2018, 10:24
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23 Jul 2018, 10:24#49

its good to have ou rooitwit back as one forgets just how funny he is and how persistently wrong he is.

Obviously this very ignorant brainwashed twit did not see the clip i showed where trump savd MANY times that he accepted Russia meddled in the election along wi th some others. Not only that he castigated the real Russian colluder Hussein Obummer for NOT doing anything to stop the Russians  - so very obviously Trump misspoke.

Then there is the clip where Obummer say it is impossible for American elections to be hacked, influenced etc and where he advised Trump to go out and make a case for getting some votes . Too funny for words seeing this now!!!

When these demonrats and the globalist MSM get all hysterical and lose their wits its always backfires in a most spectacular way.

Trumps Helesnki performance was an outstanding example of leadership. Hence his approval ratings rising again to its highest level yet and his Support from the GOP voters re the Putin meeting being so favourable.

Some oaks may wonder why ou rootwit is so ignorant. Th reason is he gets all his news from very FAKE news CNN who this year alone have lost 35% on their viewership. Ou rooitwit is so gullible that the moron still sucks up all their BS !!! Truly amazing!


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Koos Kombuis
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23 Jul 2018, 10:35
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23 Jul 2018, 10:35#50
Just to be clear Beeno, so you do believe the Russians meddled in the 2016 election even though your hero is now calling it all a big hoax?
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23 Jul 2018, 10:51
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23 Jul 2018, 10:51#51

Trump's body language when in Putin's company resembled a lap dog being stroked by it's master.

Dissing his own security service on the world stage was disgusting.....no Russian president would punt the Russian secret service on the world stage.

There is more than meets the eye with Trump and Putin......time will tell.

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23 Jul 2018, 10:58
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23 Jul 2018, 10:58#52
Indeed.

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23 Jul 2018, 16:25
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23 Jul 2018, 16:25#53
Actually I didn't see any stroking from Putin....both leaders were cautious. Trump corrected his statement the following day....it was unwise. But who can blame the man for being bitter, the intelligence agencies have promoted the false narrative that he colluded with Russia. An honest effort with appropriate urgency would have concluded long ago, the nation is not well served with it's president under investigation for so long. It's being used as a political weapon.
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23 Jul 2018, 16:49
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23 Jul 2018, 16:49#54
Rooitwit the hoax is that nothing the Russians did effected the outcome. The hoax is that Obummer never did anything about it but now is all up in arms along with poor Hillary. The hoax is there is no evidence whatsoever of Trump/Russia collusion but there is massive evidence of Obummer/ Clinton  collusion with Russia.Ou rooitwits ignorance never ceases to amaze me. 
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23 Jul 2018, 17:36
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23 Jul 2018, 17:36#55
Ag he's probably been drinking the Cardbordeaux again.
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