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WOW! Dr. Fauci in New England Journal of Medicine Concedes the Coronavirus Mortality Rate May Be Much Closer to a Very Bad Flu

Started by Beeno11 REPLIES226 VIEWS· 27 Mar 2020, 09:17
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Mar 2020, 09:17
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27 Mar 2020, 09:17#1


Oaks personally it would come as no surprise if the death rate for the Chinese virus proves less than the flu. The globalists have done their utmost to create mass panic but the tide is turning. Thank GOD for President Trump.

Last week morning Governor’s Gavin Newsom from California and Andrew Cuomo from New York announced complete lockdown on state residents due to the coronavirus pandemic.

There had been 16,067 cases of the coronavirus reported in the US at the time.
There had been 219 deaths in the US due to coronavirus at that time.

The following morning NIAID Director Dr. Anthony Fauci told reporters during the daily White House press conference, “I strongly agree” with the New York and California governors for shutting down their state economies.

This was based on the highly flawed models on the coronavirus that were being peddled at that time.

But what a difference a week makes!

On Thursday Dr. Fauci co-authored a report on the coronavirus in the New England Journal of Medicine.

In the report Dr. Fauci now argues that the mortality rate of the coronavirus may be much closer to a very bad flu.

(For the record — This is what we have been reporting since March 17th)

Via BlackJack.

Dr Fauci authored article in NEJM today supports contention below that COVID fatality rate may be much closer to very bad flu. H/t @mizdonna @Barnes_Law @ITGuy1959 @ScottAdamsSays @theconservador https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387 … https://twitter.com/blackjackbogre1/status/1242961418531594240 …

Perspective: - 80% covid19 carriers have minor / no symptoms - 20% (or less) have symptoms, test positive - US case fatality rate now = 1.4% (deaths/confirmed cases) - Implies US total FR = 20% x CFR or 0.28% - US flu TFR (CDC) = 0.14% - Covid19 TFR = 2x regular flu

On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

Ginette • 3 hours ago • edited

So, every season we have the flu are we going to treat it as though it's an apocalyptic pandemic???


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Mar 2020, 09:21
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27 Mar 2020, 09:21#2


Seems due to poor prevalence numbers, coupled with poor virulence numbers, projections were made to describe potential deaths, and those deaths have not materialized.
The European epidemic deaths might have been an expression of medical practices, and standards, in socialized systems.
Poor, meaning overly grim assumptions, with good medical practices, in the US, gives us a more reasoned projection, now.
This pandemic is bad, but is not gravely different than previous flu epidemics experienced here.

The above gives reason for lessened quarantine, and societal disruption, which is what POTUS is probably going to announce next week.
Wise blogger John Gait says:

For most of the country to return to productive work, starting the Monday after Easter, seems very reasonable.
Testing, and descriptions of the true prevalence, and case monitoring, will guide us into our near future.
Thank you President Trump, and your medical policy team, for attending to this "outbreak", and protecting American citizens.

Back to work for most Americans April 13th, or shortly thereafter.
Now the Economic and Capitalist energy needs to be restored to our country, without further delay !
AND, of course, settling with communist red China, for our inconvenience, suffering, and cost.

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