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Ken Langone comes right out and says it…

Started by Mozart17 REPLIES1,392 VIEWS· 13 Dec 2023, 13:59
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Dec 2023, 13:59
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13 Dec 2023, 13:59#1

A long time Republican, philanthropist and founder of Home Depot says America needs a leader they can respect and people don’t respect Biden or Trump. He added that the mess surrounding Hunter Biden is a national disgrace. In today’s nuanced world it’s rare for prominent people to be so candid.


But almost everybody I have spoken to in politics or not, have said the same thing… not Trump or Biden.


Langone made the point that there are many difficult decisions that have to be made and we can’t  have another compromised leader. For a country that has produced more books on leadership than any other, it’s ironical that the flawed leadership of both Trump and Biden has been tolerated.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2023, 15:18
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13 Dec 2023, 15:18#2

I think that the only potential leader of the Republican Party would be Desantis.   Ha;ey would be in the same boat as Biden - she will be controlled by the Armms Industry - they have already have her by th shorts,   

In the case of the Democratic Party - the Democratic Party funders will decide who their puppet will be - they wuiilld ecide on whom should eb nominated and then use their emdia to support the ir candidate and the Democrat sheep[le will vote for him.   It does niot matter whom they nominate as Presidential; candidate - the sheeple will vote for him.   

"In today’s nuanced world it’s rare for prominent people to be so candid"

I hope you added that sentense and refers to Langome and not to the Bidens .

In the case of Langome - he si like you a support ofg G obernance by the elitye and that looking after the interest of the middle class and the workers is not important at all  

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Dec 2023, 15:33
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13 Dec 2023, 15:33#3

Are you claiming the Republicans are  pro middle class and the workers?

Thats insanity, America has one agenda and that's the wealthy, of all the developed country America stands head and shoulders out in front for the worst legal protection of its workers. Watch some documentarys on America's  appalling labour laws.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Dec 2023, 16:21
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13 Dec 2023, 16:21#4
You know Haley would be crook. Man you are impressive Clever, you have all these sources of information. As for Ken Langone:

In 2018 Langone pledged $100 million in funding towards a $450 million program to make tuition free for all medical students at the NYU School of Medicine.[17] Langone serves as the chair of the Board of Trustees of the NYU Langone Medical Center.[18][19]

In 2019, he donated over $5 million to the Animal Medical Center in New York City.[20]

In 2020, the Open Discourse Coalition was founded with funding from Ken Langone and various Bucknell alumni. Langone currently sits on the Advisory Board.[21] He co-authored a letter in the Wall Street Journalabout the organization and why he and many other alumni felt compelled to create the entity.[22]

He serves on the boards of The Ronald McDonald House of NY, CSIS, The Medal of Honor Foundation, and the Harlem Children's Zone.[18][19][23][24]

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The man has been honored by left and right for his role as a philanthropist….and you claim looking after the interests of the workers is not his concern, despite the fact that he has given much more than a $100 million to make education accessible to all. You really should do a bit of research before you post
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For the Republicans the real issue is, who can beat Biden. Trump leads Biden by 5 points, Haley leads Biden by 17 points and has a profile that might persuade centrist Democrats and undecideds  to flip.
I would be happy with De Santis  or Haley,  but Haley has a much easier runway.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Dec 2023, 16:56
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13 Dec 2023, 16:56#5

Sader you are right the US ranks very low in government mandated protections…eg paid leave. But companies set their own policies and the big companies have very liberal benefits. Competition theoretically takes the place of regulation. But probably not in the case of smaller employers.

But if you look at the median wage, the typical wage unaffected by very high outliers, the US is in the top 10 countries, ranking 3rd. Only Luxembourg and the UAE are ahead and they are special cases.

The vast  number of people trying to get into the country is the ultimate tell.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2023, 17:06
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13 Dec 2023, 17:06#6

Mozart

I do not like any candidate like Biden who is enriched by industry.   S ge will be cntrolled by her liks to Boeing and she wiull serve Boeing  and not the voters she si supposed to serve.

 She is very much a person who will be handled and not the people - another Bush type of character that will not sewrve anybody - but her own interess.

I must admit that I have not seen what she really stand for as a candidate and what her policy program really entails.   Have you got any info about her policies and I would have a look at it.   For instance what is her approach to the Ukraine issue is. - for me warmongering based on propa ganda would be totally unacceptable and in the end she would fail like Busgh Junior did.

I looked at her policy programs on Wkikipedia adn did not convince myself that sh e will stand for anying much other than war with everubdy else.   Here statment on the Crimea is total BS for instance.   Crimea has a Russian speaking population of 85% and 10% Tartars  that in terms of the Ukraine 1991 constitution had internal self-rule.    Will she for instance nsist on a new Constitution for Ukraine protecting  all residents of Ukraine snad stop conmtrol of the US Government of the Kiev Government on a non-constitutional basis? 

Will she built an alliance defending Democracy and stop trying  to rule the world?   That I would think is not meaning change to what Biden is doing.

She does not seem interested in stopping the Open Border policy of Biden eithr and says legislation gioverning immigration should be abidxed by - and Biden says the same but dioes not apply it anywway.    Is she the Republican version of Biden in that regard?

She seems to be a typical centrist establishment controlled candidate that would do the same as Bush did.   From what i ahve seen she will not do anything as President  to re-establish US worldwide respect of teh USA which Biden destroyed,   

While she was UN Ambassador she did nothing to help implemtimng  the Minsk agreement of 2015 which was suppoorted by the UN Security council and now she support a policy that is destroying  trust of the European voters that will destroy further the already tarnished  image of the USA in Europe and worldwide. 

It is obvious she is the type of candidate that will serve the leftist interests similar to the media campaigs of the emdia.   She will do nothing different from What Bush Junior, Obama and Biden did.   

From what I have read so far she might as well be a cabdidate that will support the Biden program tweaked a bit to sound it different  to what Biden is doing and what Bush Junior did.   


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Dec 2023, 17:32
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13 Dec 2023, 17:32#7

Quality of life in America is certainly far ahead of most countries that is for sure, but for such a rich country it has an appalling record of looking after its people.

The vast amount of people clambering to move there are from 3rd world countries, same for the EU, UK, Australia  and New Zealand. It's not strange why all these countries are swamped with 3rd world countries trying to enter. If I had the choice of Mexico or America I would pick America every day.

You don't see the USA embassy in NZ with a queue around the block trying to get a green card do you, just like you don't  see queues of people from the EU fighting to get into NZ.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Dec 2023, 18:31
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13 Dec 2023, 18:31#9

Europe has pretty much faded away as a major source. But these numbers suggest pretty slow changes to demographics

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2023, 18:56
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13 Dec 2023, 18:56#10

Mozart

What are thiose immigration figures about,   In three years suince Januay 2021 to date more than 7 million people entered the USA through the open border policty of Biden.    You are talking here about less than 300 000 people.- are these Green card holders only? 

Another thing I could no t find any poll in the USA where Haley beats Biden by 17 points.   Please indicate which poll you are refcerring to.       

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
13 Dec 2023, 19:52
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13 Dec 2023, 19:52#11

America must take out the dirty laundry by putting Biden/Trump out to pasture.

Trump is just a piece of shit that should never have been president, and Bidens links to Ukraine with the Hunter Biden dealings is too much to ignore. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2023, 20:10
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13 Dec 2023, 20:10#12

SB

There is nothing  I dislike more than career politicians.   There was a gentleman  whom they tried to pursued to run for political office.   He said prostitues have more principles and more honorable than politicians.

I still remember what a woman said when interviewed bym CNN in 2016 after the election.  She said - "Reagen was a person who looked after the interests of the people.   After every president since him we were worse off.   Trump promised he would help us and that is why I voted for him."   

Trump helped the ordinary people and under him there were not 44 million people suffering from food insecurity.   That is why the rich hated him and still do.   He was  not under control of the rich and a puppet of the liberal cntrol system like every President since Reagan was.                  

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2023, 20:17
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13 Dec 2023, 20:17#13

SB

You know what I think of politicians :-

A prostitute has more honor and primnciples than a politician.   

 

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
13 Dec 2023, 21:03
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13 Dec 2023, 21:03#14


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Dec 2023, 01:55
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14 Dec 2023, 01:55#16

So thje Wasll Street Journal is the source of the migration figures during a ten year period Covvering  6 years of Obam,a administration and 4 years of Trump Administartion     why that mixture and whata re the figures under Obama and what under Trump.   

In 2016 the situation was regarded as a major election issue and was one of the reasos why Trump won.   

One can be sure that the figures are a mix-up of legal migrants as well as entry through the border of Mexico.   

Why not deal with the over 7 million migrants entering the USA since Biden took over.    Why the silence over the circa 2,5 million entries per year under Biden.  

I am indeed not surprised by the present pro-Hamas rallies in the USA.    

Like the Dem,ocrats claim there is no crisis situation on the Mexican border and the Reuoblicans are wrng to oppse the Open Border policy.  

I am bginning to suspect that the Wall Street Journal is in fact always reflect the interests of the rich and would always go against anything Republican or conservative.   

Who diod the Journal support in the 2020 election.  Didx the Journal support the election of Biden - yes or no?   Answer would be appreciated.   .        .    - 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Dec 2023, 01:55
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14 Dec 2023, 01:55#17

So thje Wasll Street Journal is the source of the migration figures during a ten year period Covvering  6 years of Obam,a administration and 4 years of Trump Administartion     why that mixture and whata re the figures under Obama and what under Trump.   

In 2016 the situation was regarded as a major election issue and was one of the reasos why Trump won.   

One can be sure that the figures are a mix-up of legal migrants as well as entry through the border of Mexico.   

Why not deal with the over 7 million migrants entering the USA since Biden took over.    Why the silence over the circa 2,5 million entries per year under Biden.  

I am indeed not surprised by the present pro-Hamas rallies in the USA.    

Like the Dem,ocrats claim there is no crisis situation on the Mexican border and the Reuoblicans are wrng to oppse the Open Border policy.  

I am bginning to suspect that the Wall Street Journal is in fact always reflect the interests of the rich and would always go against anything Republican or conservative.   

Who diod the Journal support in the 2020 election.  Didx the Journal support the election of Biden - yes or no?   Answer would be appreciated.   .        .    - 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Dec 2023, 02:05
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14 Dec 2023, 02:05#18

Rubbish the Journal leans Republican on the editorial page….but they have a policy of not endorsing candidates.


And if you just used the link you would see the Journal was not the source of the immigration data.

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