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The Noble Prize mystery : a question for the Trumpanzees . . .

Started by Rooinek54 REPLIES1,962 VIEWS· 13 May 2020, 15:05
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 May 2020, 15:05
#1
13 May 2020, 15:05#1

This needs its own thread.


A few weeks ago, Bozo made the following Tweets:




Now, I mentioned Bozo's embarrassing blunder in passing (it was on this thread when someone used the word "noble" and it reminded me of this Tweet) and I posted this:


"Reminds me of Bozo's recent tweet when he said the reporters should return their "Noble" (sic) prizes. What a blithering idiot. A seriously stupid and ignorant man who not only doesn't know that it's a "Nobel" prize, but also doesn't realize reporters and journalists win Pulitzer prizes rather than Nobel prizes (or Noble prizes!).

Bozo eventually realized his blunder (or more likely, was told he'd just made another embarrassing blunder) and deleted his Tweet, later asking if "sarcasm ever worked".

LMAO!

To think there are still Trumpanzees out there who worship this painfully stupid and ignorant moron."


Cowardunce responded by saying the following (copied and pasted faithfully):


"You poor bloody simpleton, you are as thick as the news outlets who ran wild with the story. They decided that Trump meant to refer to Nobel prizes. He said Noble because he was meaning Noble. They always proudly quote their endless prizes with their pieces and he was taking the piss at that. How many of the fools have won prizes for their reporting on the Russia hoax and won one award after the other for it...... and then came the Mueller Report. They are trying the same stunt that you always do so expertly......obfuscation. 


Noble: From Middle English, from Old French noble, from Latin n?bilis (“knowable, known, well-known, famous, celebrated, high-born, of noble birth, excellent”), from n?sceregn?scere (“to know”)."


So then I started asking various Trumpanzees whether they agreed with my interpretation of those Tweets or Ceradunce's . . . but none of them replied which is a bit strange because several Trumpanzees have assured me recently that the're not stupid and they're definitely not cowards . . . but none of Cowardunce, Plumchum or Draad the Squeaky Toy could answer my question or even attempted to give an answer . . . although at least one did say he was "too busy" to give an answer.


So now I'm throwing the question open to all the other Trumpanzees in the hope that one of you might not be too busy or too cowardly to answer the question which I have dumbed down to a simple a) or b) answer . . . 


Do you believe . . . 


a) Rooinek's interpretation of the Tweets or . . . 


b) Cowardunce's interpretation of the Tweets?


Just an a) or b) answer. That's all.


Thanks in anticipation!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 May 2020, 15:10
#2
13 May 2020, 15:10#2

Not to worry Rooinek.

Wonder what will happen when Obama ends up in jail  

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 May 2020, 15:17
#3
13 May 2020, 15:17#3

 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 May 2020, 15:22
#4
13 May 2020, 15:22#4

See now, this is all proving exactly what I said a few days ago . . . that anything remotely critical of Bozo just doesn't register with the Trumpanzees. They just don't see it . . . but let's wait and see if any others respond before we claim this as proof of my theory.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 May 2020, 15:30
#5
13 May 2020, 15:30#5

Hahahahahahahaha great play on words by Trump. Wooosh it went way over the slope headed neanderthal head. Calling these twits noble after they handed out Nobel Prizes to people who lied and got it all wrong was of course sarcastic but poor rooitwit cant see the obvious and has been churning over this monstrous "mistake" all this while.

Hahhahahaahahaha what a small minded little nitpicker wee rooitwit is!

No wonder the s illy twit cant see the wood from the trees!

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 May 2020, 15:51
#6
13 May 2020, 15:51#6

Maybe, just maybe Trump called it “noble prizes“ because he knew there are many numbskulls like ou Rooies who did not know that there are six categories of Nobel Prizes and journalism isn’t one of them. 

Their first reaction, was “bwahahahaha” the idiot think the journos got Nobel prizes and he cannot even spell the word Nobel”. Then, when he explained to them what he actually did, what did they do? Did they acknowledge that he got them? No. They soldiered on, trying to prove that he was just covering his ass. 

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, one of the biggest troll caught them all....... again. All it required to send them on another wild goose chase was one single uppercase “N”. 

Remember the time when he tweeted that Obama wiretapped him? What did the media do? “Bwahahaha, the stupid doos doesn’t even know that in the days of modern tech they don’t physically do wiretaps anymore. It has to be another lie. 

As Nigel Farage said to the EU: “Not laughing now, are you?”

They never learn with Trump. 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
13 May 2020, 16:09
#7
13 May 2020, 16:09#7

... and once again he's in need of rescuing.

Will it ever end?

 


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 May 2020, 16:32
#8
13 May 2020, 16:32#8

So far the number of Trumpanzees (guys who assure us they're not cowards and they do in fact answer questions) who have answered the very simple question requiring nothing but a "a" or a "b" answer  . . . 

Zero!

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 May 2020, 16:36
#9
13 May 2020, 16:36#9

Windpomp Trump has beaten these fake news propaganda machines so badly their credibility is surely about as low as it could go - 8%

Could it drop to zero? Hear that NBC Chuck Todd has now apologized for fake news hit on AG Barr and is blaming CBS.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 May 2020, 16:36
#10
13 May 2020, 16:36#10

I don’t see overwhelming support for your version either. Maybe even your most loyal lickspittles have started to try and recall which Nobel Prices for Journalism have been awarded. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 May 2020, 16:46
#11
13 May 2020, 16:46#11

Those Pulitzer Prizes must definitely be returned and the judges sacked.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 May 2020, 17:03
#12
13 May 2020, 17:03#12

Option c

I answered it on the other thread.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
13 May 2020, 17:21
#13
13 May 2020, 17:21#13

“ Posted by: Beeno1 (32086 posts)

May 13, 2020, 16:46

Those Pulitzer Nobel Prizes must definitely be returned and the judges sacked.  “

Fixed.  Come on Beeno. Stick to the script.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 May 2020, 18:26
#14
13 May 2020, 18:26#14
"I don’t see overwhelming support for your version either."
LMAO! Just how stupid is this cretin?
There's a big clue for you in the title of my thread, Cowardunce, see if you can spot it . . . "The Noble Prize mystery: a question for the Trumpanzees . . ."
So let's assume your truly incredibly naive and brainwashed version of events is true, what is Bozo talking about when he asks "When will the Noble Committee DEMAND the Prizes back?"
What do you think this "Noble Committee" is that he speaks of, Cowardunce?
Hahahahahahahaha!
I thought in this case you might have spared yourself further embarrassment and humiliation and finally caved in in the face of overwhelming evidence proving that you and Bozo are both fools and admitted that you made a hilarious mistake by believing the spin . . . but the Trumpanzee is strong in you!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 May 2020, 19:06
#15
13 May 2020, 19:06#15

Rooi, you take trivialities way too seriously...and your angsty passion to "prove" how stupid everyone else are is an indication of some underlying insecurities in your psyche...of so iets. Dis abnormaal Ou.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 May 2020, 07:18
#16
14 May 2020, 07:18#16
"He made a mistake, but rather than manning up and admitting his gaffe, he tried to cover it up. It’s how the man rolls."
Indeed . . . but imagine being so stupid and so brainwashed that you actually believe Bozo's pathetic cover up story?
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 May 2020, 08:00
#17
14 May 2020, 08:00#17
"It’s not so much the mistakes for we all make them, it’s the not owning up to them, accepting responsibility or even apologising."
Exactly. Something that Bozo and his Trumpanzees have in common . . . they can never admit their mistakes. 
While he's too pompous and full of himself to admit to making mistakes or take responsibility for them , I think Bozo at least sees his mistakes and understands that he's made a blunder because he's forever deleting tweets after someone has pointed out to him what an enormous fool he's making of himself . . . but the Trumpanzees can't even see those blunders. The mistakes just don't register with them. It's as if they never happened.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
14 May 2020, 08:35
#18
14 May 2020, 08:35#18

There is only one thing you should be laser-focused on right now and it’s how to defeat coronavirus before it slaughters more Americans.

Piers seems to think the virus is a guy with a machine gun that can be shot by another guy with a bigger machine gun and then it's magically all over.

The WHO (as far as you can take them seriously) earlier today stated that the virus may never go away. It may become endemic to our society.

So what is Piers proposing here? Everyone stay in their homes forever? The economy, food security, all those things will just magically take care of themselves? When is the last time good old Piers went down to street level to talk to people who cannot provide for their families anymore because they are forced to hide from a virus that may be with us for at least another year even in the best case scenario of an effective vaccine being developed?

It's easy to criticize and rant melodramatically.

Putting a better idea on the table, like something that can both shield people from the virus and prevent a socio-economic catastrophe? That would be something worth listening to.

The only option everywhere is to get on with life, taking whatever precautions can realistically be taken. The only people still proposing this endless sheltering in place are those with stocked fridges and fat savings to draw from. Like, no doubt, old Piers himself.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 May 2020, 08:55
#19
14 May 2020, 08:55#19

I've always found Piers Morgan to be a self-important jerk but I can't argue with anything he's saying in the open letter that I posted on this thread that the cowardly Trumpanzees all dodged . . . and since I posted that I also watched his rant about the way the British governement has handled the pandemic and I agree with him on that one as well. 

The USA and the UK are the two countries with the worst numbers in the world and I think Bozo and Boris both have a lot to answer for.  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
14 May 2020, 09:27
#20
14 May 2020, 09:27#20

No doubt, and likewise all the governors who are hitting people with nonsensical lockdown regulations that, just like in SA, smack of petty power mongering rather than practical measures that accommodate, and also maintain some level of empathy for, people who need to provide for their families. Seeing governors threaten citizens on TV in a manner that you would think should only be reserved for criminals demonstrates the ever present divide between the powers that be and the average person on the street.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 May 2020, 10:50
#21
14 May 2020, 10:50#21

“ When was the last time or even the first that good old Trumpie went down and did the same? Actually when was the last time he even spoke of the 85,197 people who have lost their lives so far and expressed any kind of empathy and compassion to their families and I don’t mean a disingenuous 15 seconds of a 45 min speech. In fact when was the last or the first time he ever went into a hospital and saw first-hand what front line workers are dealing with every day? He the leader not Piers Morgan  “

Cloudy, Cloudy, Cloudy........

Did you really think this through before hitting the “Submit Comment” button?

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 May 2020, 12:22
#22
14 May 2020, 12:22#22

@Cloudy,

For one. You do exactly the same that a lot of the lunatic leftie fanatics out there are doing. You seem to be saying that Trump doesn’t give two shits about the victims of this virus. What if I told you that nobody could be blamed for saying the same about you. You also do not appear to be giving two shits about the lives of those victims, since you are using their deaths to have a go at someone who is involved in dealing with the crisis almost 24/7, while also fending off a constant barrage of daily attacks from the media. A media that is holding him personally responsible for the death of each and every US citizen. 

I have not seen one MSM media outlet giving him credit for even one person who has survived the virus. 

You just assume that Trump do not care for people in need. I’m not even going to try to debunk that because your deep down pure hatred for the man will have it roll off you like water off a duck. 

Trump is more in touch with the lives of everyday people than high and mighty attention whore Piers Morgan will ever be. Piers has written some good pieces in his life. He has done some brilliant interviews. He really is a good interviewer. I know. I’ve watched many of them. He has done a great one with Alan Sugar at his home in the USA. It’s on YouTube. Check it out. He has done some with Trump as well. In fact, I think he is the only British presenter to have done so inside the U.K. He has always been on a good footing with both Trump and Alan Sugar. Now, at this point you have to draw a comparison between Trump and Sugar.

There has always been this rivalry between the two of them. Sugar was the one who famously challenged Trump, saying that he can write a check for a million dollars, walk into a bank and cash it, but he doubt that Trump could do it. 

In comparison there are two main things.  Trump did The Apprentice USA and Sugar did the UK one. Secondly, politically Sugar is a life long leftie, although he was heavily opposed to Jeremy Corbyn, saying that should Corbyn become PM he would pack up and piss off out of the UK. Trump is a conservative, although he has been a Dem at some stage. 

And then there is the other similarity. Morgan were friends with both of them and they have both kicked his arse recently, and told him to piss off. 

Morgan’s successes has gone straight to his head and the fact that he came out of the UK hacking scandal with fairly clean hands has emboldened him, despite the fact that he basically pulled a “taking the 5th” stunt before the Leveson Inquiry. He thinks he is untouchable. 

This trick of his, with the letter to Trump, backfired badly. He was hoping for the Brits to fall to their knees and worship him as the one who bullied Trump. The Brits replied with a big fat yawn and Trump unfollowed him on Twitter. How did he handle that? He had a meltdown...... on Twitter. How could Trump do that to me, the great Piers Morgan? And the folks on Twitter....... They took the piss at the mighty Morgan. 

One of Piers Morgan’s biggest accomplishments, which he loved to brag about, was the fact the Donald Trump was one of his followers on Twitter. As was Alan Sugar. And now that is gone. No more Trump on his list of followers. That is what really hurts Piers. The thought that he had totally misjudged the effects of his “open letter”. The fact that he thought that he was so high and mighty that Trump would come back and beg him for advise on how to run the USA. 

Maybe Trump should have replied with an open letter to Piers on how to do journalism, but he didn’t. He had bigger fish to fry and he hasn’t got time for small fry chicken shit. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 May 2020, 13:08
#23
14 May 2020, 13:08#23
I didn’t expect you to admit that any part of Piers letter might hold a hint of truth."
All of Morgan's open letter has a lot of truth and considering their relationship, he's a very reliable and trustworthy source and well positioned to offer Bozo advice . . . but as I've said before, if it's critical of Bozo then the Trumpanzees are just incapable of seeing it. It doesn't register in their brainwashed little minds.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 May 2020, 14:16
#24
14 May 2020, 14:16#24

“ So now we’ve cleared that up I was hoping you were going to tell me when was the last time Trumpie went down to street level to talk to people who cannot provide for their families, or when was the last time he went into a hospital and met with the front line workers to see how they were coping, or the last time he expressed or shared a story about any one of the people who have lost their lives? Specifically not randomly.“

I was actually hoping that, in saying that, you have any idea as to whether he did/didn’t do that or that he never does that. You do know that these kind of things can only be done provided his security detail allows for it to happen. Almost every movement of the POTUS is controlled and I don’t see them allowing Trump, or any president, for that matter to just wander out in the street. That does not mean that he is someone who has no idea as to the stuff that concerns the man in the street.

That fact alone, is one of the big reasons, if not the biggest why the media and the establishment despise him. The fact that he basically told them to go to hell and care about the people. They hated the fact that he tackled China basically to create jobs for Americans. 

Those people in the streets, you know. The ones that he apparently knows nothing about. Go look for the clips and watch and listen to the times he was invited to Congress, as a young man in his early thirties, to speak to and advise them on real estate and the providing of affordable low income housing. On striking a balance between high class luxury real estate while at the same time making sure that the needy is cared for. I bet you have never seen that, or knew about that. Those were the days when he was the darling of the very same media who is now trying to bring him down. The days when those tools on The View were fawning over him. Oprah was literally singing his praises on her show. Conan, Kimble, the whole lot of them fell over their feet to host him. All of them egging him on to run for President. Even as a thirty something year old. 

Every time he ended up saying that there he was enjoying his job too much and that there had to be someone out there who could do the job. He was never partisan about it, and they never asked him about his political affiliation. They just wanted him to run for President and sort out the country. I guess they just accepted that, if he did decide to run, it would be as a Dem.

And then he decided to run, but he decided to run on a Republican ticket. But more importantly, during his campaign, he attacked the big corporates, the military complex, the big pharma, the big financial institutions, the Fed, the media. Suddenly the media had to toe the line of their bosses. The media could no longer like Trump the person. They had to toe the line for their bosses. Bosses? Yeah their bosses. The owners of the big corporates. The ones who Trump were hammering at his rallies. Rallies where people were doing everything in their power to get in to, while they had to manipulate footage to create the impression that Hillary was also drawing crowds.

Suddenly they dug up the old footage. Footage that was also available when in the days the media worshipped him. Footage that would never have seen the light of day, had he run on a Dem ticket.

“ ..we all know who the victims are, just don’t assume you know me as well as you know Trumpie.“

Yet you afford yourself the luxury of pretending to know Trump well enough to suggest that he doesn’t give a damn about the needy. 

“  I didn’t expect you to admit that any part of Piers letter might hold a hint of truth.“

What you probably should have said was: “ I didn’t expect you to conform to my view that......”

Piers’ letter is an opinion piece, and that is my opinion of it. That’s what he does. That’s the way he operates. When he is right he is right and you are in for one hell of a battle if you think you are going to shift his opinion in your direction. It’s not going to happen. That is one of his strongest points as a presenter, as a writer and as an interviewer and that is what makes him really good. You need a massive big ego to pull that off. Unfortunately it is one of his weak points as well. His ego. This time his ego has taken a big dent and it is all his own doing. He wrote an opinion piece and dressed it up as an open letter. It contains a hell of a lot of opinion and even if there is the odd “truth” in there, it is still mainly opinion. He is 100% entitled to it as well. 

I was going to say something about his, Piers’, unwavering stance on gun control in the USA, but I don’t think it is the time and the place to do so. It would just open the door to steer the discussion in the exact opposite direction of what I intended to go with it. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 May 2020, 14:26
#25
14 May 2020, 14:26#25

“  All of Morgan's open letter has a lot of truth and considering their relationship, he's a very reliable and trustworthy source and well positioned to offer Bozo advice . . .“

Yeah right. My mistake. Piers is obviously constantly at Trump’s side and knows his every move. He also has exclusive insight into everything going on in the Oval Office and in daily presidential briefings. He is an expert on international trade relations. He is a national security boffin. He is virologist and an epidemiologist and a statistician. What the hell is Piers doing on GMB and writing opinion pieces for the Daily Mail? He should be in the WH at Trump’s side leading him through these tough times.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
14 May 2020, 16:40
#26
14 May 2020, 16:40#26

Piers can be a dick, and he has been a few times already, so he is not always my cup of tea, but I also doubt that he is the monster that some make him out to be

Piers may want to build up his own public celebrity profile, and he might also maybe give a bit of a shit about how many people are dying across Britain, because he has already previously admitted that he has lost quite a few people that were close to him, specifically due to this virus ........... so if he does do that, especially at the expense of a few ignorant and stupid government ministers who don't know shit about how their own country is run, then I say good on him.... no harm... no foul.

Piers Morgan asks the most direct and mostly relevant and uncomfortable questions to the very people who were voted into government, to perform those same tasks or duties and responsibilities.

People blame him for throwing too many facts and figures at these people, and getting frustrated or angry with his guests....yet, Piers tends to know far more about their own facts and stats than they themselves do, as ministers..... shocking.... yet all Piers did was care just enough to actually check and verify those stats..... something these same ministers never knew about, even knowing that they were going on to his Good Morning Britain show.... not once, but multiple times, and still getting nailed for not knowing their jobs.... it was fucking laughable

Piers has also been tirelessly fighting for the NHS staff, every single day......who quite honestly, were just left behind to their own devices, by their own government, to fight for their own lives whilst trying to save other strangers lives.... it was and still is disgusting.......

The government were still issuing fines to hospital staff for many weeks into this pandemic.... most of them volunteers, for parking in the wrong places at the hospital.....hundreds of pounds at a time, which people started posting on social media....fines for even the meters that had run out of time, whilst people were working double shifts to save lives

One person, and one person only, offered to fight and pay for those fines in his own personal capacity......in front of over 7 million people on his twitter account..... that same asshole... Piers Morgan

If people fail, Piers lambastes them... but he at least does it to their face.... unlike other media and political people.... and if they succeed, he celebrates them..... but yeah, he can still be a monumental dickhead

It is however, bloody shocking and downright diabolical how so many different government representatives, that he interviewed…. knew absolutely nothing about the number of people who were getting infected or killed on a daily basis, either in the hospitals, or in the care homes.

Sadiq Khan, Helen Whately, Matt Hancock and Andrew Bridgen in particular are an absolute embarrassment to their country.

Laughing, making fun or making light of how serious this whole issue was..... not knowing anything at all about the number of deaths... or how about still forcing people going to work, to cram like sardines on the tube.... months after this became a pandemic... yes..... Sadiq Khan... the guy was completely and utterly clueless..... 18 London transport staff have already died, including 12 bus drivers...… it makes me sick how embarrassingly inept the British government was in handling this.

Matt Hancock demanded that certain people take a cut in salary, but when the same was proposed directly to him..... his answer..... no ways..... and why not?..... he replied.... "I am going to work harder and longer"

LMFAO.... do as I say...... but never as I do

Boris Johnson …… what a farce......... what a Winston Churchill wannabe

He only attended his first meeting about this pandemic...... on the 3rd March

Boris also missed 5 separate meeting about the pandemic, which resulted in a delay of 5 weeks of not listening to scientific suggestions and recommendations on dealing with this virus and preventing it from spreading and causing deaths around the country..... I wonder how many British people died..... because of just this one person

So... having said all this.... .... I would rather have Piers Morgan making these statements, every single day....and posing these questions, concerns, theories or complaints... to these people on Good Morning Britain, or The Daily Mail, because quite frankly.... the janitors, the bus drivers, the nurses, the doctors, the cab drivers, the paramedics, the interns, the hospital volunteers .... they all don't exactly have the same kind of podium that Piers has, which results in an increased amount of awareness... and clout.... to get things done, and to possibly change things for the better.... so I say

Go Piers !!!

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
14 May 2020, 17:08
#27
14 May 2020, 17:08#27

Just saw......this is the main headline right now on The Daily Mail

Up to 220 000 people in England may have the coronavirus right now and the prevalence of the virus is SIX TIMES higher in NHS and care workers than the general population

Makes me sick and angry, at what these NHS and care home workers had to work through and endure every day..... whilst these pathetic ministers sat in the comfort of their own homes or offices


CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 May 2020, 17:22
#28
14 May 2020, 17:22#28

DA. I agree with most of what you are saying about Piers and it ties in with what I said why I think he is good at what he does. 

I would agree that Trump should have given more of the talk time to the experts with him at the podium but it is also a matter of damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Had he done that, he would have been accused of being to scared to stand up and face the “tough questions “. Very few question thrown at him are really clear informative probing. They are almost without exception aimed at belittling him. Anybody can see that. That’s the way the media operates. 

As far as the U.K. is concerned, yes, I’m also pissed off. Boris was excellent at winning the election and getting Brexit sorted, but the coronavirus? Nah. I don’t know. And the people surrounding him also seem to be clueless. I have just received a text today, less than an hour ago, inviting people who show CV symptoms like high temperature and coughing, to take part in some form of trial. 

“This is a message from Dr  XXXXXXX  from XXXXXX Medical Practice. A clinical trial exploring treatment for the COVID-19 virus is taking place. If you experience a new or worsening continuous cough and/or a high temperature and have had it for less than 14 days and are not starting to feel better, please visit https://sentry.phc.ox.ac.uk/prinscreen/TBH to find out more. Please call the Trial Team if you have any questions or do not have access to online systems: 0800 138 0880 www.mygp.io/cjw“

It is 14 May and the CV shit started in January and now they are looking at trials and shit.

I have opened the link out of curiosity. 

Here are some of the questions at the start. It start of by naming it as a randomised trial of OLDER people in COVID-19 intervention.....

And then...

Fist question. 

Do you have symptoms........ for 15 days? 

Are older than 65?

Wait for it........

Are you pregnant. Hahahha  WTF?

Wait for the next one.......

Are you breastfeeding or planning to do so during the trial? Once again. Hahahaha  WTF?

Those are some of questions in the screening part of the questionnaire. Some of the question also relates to whether you are allergic to...... you guessed it..... Chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, Azitchromicin. Ring a bell, Sharkbok and Rooinek? 


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
14 May 2020, 20:50
#29
14 May 2020, 20:50#29

I'm not up to date with UK TV or how they handled the virus, but just watched Piers make Sadiq squirm and I see what you mean. Nice perspective, thanks DA.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 May 2020, 08:45
#30
15 May 2020, 08:45#30

Pleasure Pakie

Do yourself a favour

Go on YouTube and search for Piers Morgan - Helen Whately 1

Then go on YouTube and search for Piers Morgan - Helen Whately 2

Then try YouTube and search for Piers Morgan - Matt Hancock

These are all very recent interviews.... so nothing is old news

There are quite a lot of other notable interviews as well, like Oliver Dowden, or Andrew Bridgen…….where he absolutely destroys the ministers for not knowing anything about their own actual jobs and numbers.... and I mean, they really know nothing at all...…. even after repeated interviews and knowing exactly what to expect from Piers.... Helen Whately was bad though.... almost career ending in my opinion.... and Matt Hancock is a prick..... you can just see it by his demeanor and body language to the questions being directed towards him

So, having already lost quite a few close friends and acquaintances to this virus, and then speaking to these very people that were in charge of this entire pandemic, I guess one can sort of understand the frustration and anger when multiple people come on to national TV and don't know shit about what they should actually be doing, and getting paid a decent salary for, every day, to curb or halt the spread of this virus.

In my opinion, at no stage did any common sense prevail in the decision making in the UK..... they mostly strictly listened to "The Science"

For instance, did you know, that the UK government deliberately sent thousands of Covid-19 positive people back into all the care homes around the UK..... knowing full well that they were infected and would spread the virus even more amongst the elder generation...… and who investigated this and made it public knowledge..... Piers Morgan

Piers is not a saint, far from it... and as I said, he can also be a prat or a prick at times.... but I do genuinely tip my hat to him with how he has fought for certain people in the UK, that did not have a voice or could not voice their concerns,..... during this horrible time

People like Alan Sugar for instance..... who I have come to despise...... only moans, bitches, and lambaste Piers Morgan, whilst Sugar himself sits in his mansion, outside of the UK..... in Florida

Interesting.... how around the world...…. in general...most of the rich celebrities, sports personalities, media moguls...... have basically done sweet fuck all... to help or assist.....  during this unprecedented fight that their respective countries are facing..... including the UK....some have helped, but most haven't..... it has been left to the people who earn minimum wage, or less than minimum wage, to save the lives of those same people that sit in their mansions ….

Crazy hey.... how the very people that we have to rely and depend on...... to get us through the most difficult time in modern human history, are the very same people that seldom, if ever, get the respect or the salary that they actually  do deserve

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 May 2020, 09:39
#31
15 May 2020, 09:39#31

Ceradyne, I hope everything is going well for you

I know you have been mentioning tests for a while now, so I hope all is ok

"Had he done that, he would have been accused of being to scared to stand up and face the “tough questions “. Very few question thrown at him are really clear informative probing. They are almost without exception aimed at belittling him. Anybody can see that. That’s the way the media operates."

Absolutely spot on with this statement


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 May 2020, 09:42
#32
15 May 2020, 09:42#32

What a complete coincidence that this article has just been posted on The Daily Mail

Piers Morgan - Sadiq Khan

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 May 2020, 10:14
#33
15 May 2020, 10:14#33

It has now been confirmed that 42 transport workers in London, have been killed by the Coronavirus

28 out of that 42..... is just bus drivers alone.. in London

Please can someone help me understand, that whilst all of this was happening, the London mayor, Sadiq Khan.... still told Piers Morgan in an earlier interview, even after many London drivers had already died..... that it was still not necessary at all, to give any of the London bus drivers any PPE..... nothing at all...… because the experts said that it was not necessary.... this is after about 10 drivers had already died from the virus

How.... can a reasonable human being, whether you are educated or not.... continue to believe these "science people", when people are dying all around you ….

When and where does the common sense apply... and finally come into the decision making process 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 May 2020, 10:31
#34
15 May 2020, 10:31#34

But Kahn can afford PR campaigns..... 

Bans bikini add because, according to him it promotes body shaming. 

Then he launches a diversity competition and displays ads with the winners picture all over the show. 


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 May 2020, 12:19
#35
15 May 2020, 12:19#35

Ja.....

When you watch him, he really does just look completely oblivious to what is happening on his watch

Deplorable that he is still in charge

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 May 2020, 16:50
#36
15 May 2020, 16:50#36

The virologists brought their 1919 ....Spanish Flu.....medical bags. Wash your hands....stay out of public places.


Where was the war room, where was the projection of what was happening in Wuhan. Where were the calls to shut down non essential travel back in February. Where was the call to harden nursing homes. Where was the competent use of data.

The collection and processing of mortality data is frighteningly crude... so we find strong linkages to ACE inhibitors and/or high blood pressure, vitamin D, race and skin color. But none of that has led to a single actionable recommendation by a general authority.


And the testing of various treatments shows every sign of bias. The Remdesivir  trial was changed from a six factor test to the highly subjective length of illness......in mid trial! And in the most touted hcq trial patients getting hcq were much sicker. 

We needed better, fairer trials way earlier.


All these developments and needs should have been totally apparent or certainly a strong possibility way back.


The politicians have made many mistakes, in almost every country.....but if they were getting advice like the advice Trump got from Fauci they weren’t going to get it right.


This is a whole branch of medicine that has been grading itself for 100 years.....and the moment it was really tested, failed horribly.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 May 2020, 19:21
#37
15 May 2020, 19:21#37

Clouds, we are all adults and we should never agree on everything, then there is something seriously wrong...but we can disagree in a civil manner. 

Trump is not the devider, he just shines the light on our existing devision. 

You and Blobbok are on a different side than me of this issue, but I think we are mostly civil about it. The nastiness in some of the exchanges are there because of other factors and will remain long after Trump is gone. The added frustrations due to lockdown makes things even worse...anyway, keep well and pop in a bit more than you intend to at the moment. 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 May 2020, 23:33
#38
16 May 2020, 23:33#38

“ Posted by: Devil's Advocate (3436 posts)

May 15, 2020, 09:39

Ceradyne, I hope everything is going well for you 

I know you have been mentioning tests for a while now, so I hope all is ok  “

Thanks DA. 

For some reason something just reminded me that I typed out a reply to this post but for some reason it did not go through when I submitted it. I meant to redo it, but got distracted and it slipped my mind. 

So, yeah. Thing aren’t really too peachy at the moment but we’re soldiering on. We’ll see how it goes. 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 May 2020, 15:09
#39
17 May 2020, 15:09#39

Cowardunce, I hope you show more guts in real life than you show on this forum.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
17 May 2020, 15:42
#40
17 May 2020, 15:42#40

“  Posted by: Rooinek (10237 posts)

May 17, 2020, 15:09

Cowardunce, I hope you show more guts in real life than you show on this forum.“

I would love to witness your guts in handling my real life situation, but as I said elsewhere, I do not even wish it on you. 

Having said that, I am pretty sure that you know already, given your ability to dig into people’s private lives. You are just trying to lure me into talking about it on this forum so you can ridicule it. 

You are exactly one of the reasons why I am keeping it off this board. 


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