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does your shop sell toilet paper as well?
..thats an idea Sharkbok...toilet paper covered in little shark patterns to remind us of last years final..what was the score again???? at least you beat the Stormers Sharkbok - i hear Bean Brain , Boklogshit , Denny and co are still on suicide watch thanks to you guys LMAO...
Brycy
I hope you stock tissues as well - all adorned with Chiefs insignia. You will need a huge stock of that during the series and afterwards to wipe away all the tears that will be shed. I will definitely order toilet paper from your shop provided they have the Chiefs insignia on it - will even pay $50 per roll and use it sparingly throughout the season for an appropriate purpose. Add to the insignia pics of Retallick and Cruden - it should bring them in close contact with exactly the way they play the game of rugby!!!!!!
Seriously now - the Chiefs are going to miss SBW and this time around they are going to need stronger locks to deal with the Sharks than they had to contend with in the final. The Sharks are coming and disaster looming for them in that case.
not so clever mike - i cant wait for the season to start either so we can smash you like we did last year.
Funny how this time last year all the bloggers on here did'nt even rate SBW at all. Now according to you we wont be the same without him. What an education we gave you last year -. No thanks necessary
brycy
Seriously now - I have always rated SBW - don't confuse me with beeno. The Chiefs has a strong team and they should do well this year. I am not sure about the Crusaders - after years of brilliance they seem on the decline. The Hurricanes looks good - but I am not hopeful about the Highlanders. The latter team has too many geriatrics and I think they will come short. The Blues are not going far this coming here too - I believe.
So I think top honours in the New Zealand Conference should go either to the Chiefs or the Hurricanes. Lets wait and see how it pans out.
RE SBW : i distinctly remembere you only having derogatory things to say about him due to the occasional shouldfer charge - quite legal in his former code of league and now he's gone back to league maybe you can truly appreciate the art of the shoulder charge seeing there's no SA on the end of it.
Nicely spotted though the power shift in Super XV rugby from the South Island of NZ to the Nth Island.
@brycy,
re: shoulder charges, u wont see any of that in league either, at least not in the NRL where it has been banned.
i get a feeling that the aussies dropped their nuts after learning of SBW roosters deal & decided to stop the envitable bodycount by banning the shoulder charge,
cnat accuse the aussies of being stupid, but the the colour yellow has never been so fitting, lolz, :oP
@brycy & clevermike,
the biggest assumption about the chiefs is how their fortunes revolved around SBW. no doubt he was one of the top 3 players in the comp, but at the ned of the day hes only one man. the real credit lies with dave rennie and wayne smith, who instilled a level of composure that the chiefs have never seen before.
cruden also deserves big raps, cos he was the best flyhalf bar none last year, though SBW was a defensive magnet which made his job easier.
i also wouldnt rule out the crusaders, the most consistent team in the comp, i still believe that if they had beaten the chiefs in the semis, they would have won the finals.
crusaders
current All Blacks - wyatt crockett, owen franks, sam whitelock, luke romano, kerean read, dan carter, i dagg
fringe/past All Blacks - corey flynn, tom donnoley, andy ellis, tom taylor, zac guilford, george whitelock, robbie fruean, ryan crotty,
former NZ reps (lower grades) & spXV stars - jordan tafua, tyler blyendaal, tom marshall, adam whitelock, jimmy tupou.
crazy to rule out the most successful super rugby franchise ever, have been the most dominant team for the last decade & a culture like that dosent evaporate as easy as u might think.
chiefs are the desrved champs, but crusaders are still the powerhouse club of NZ rugby.
sasu...well that really sucks as SBW was one of the best exponents of the shoulder charge. If you watch the highlights of a game it's these big hits that are featured. Talk about ruin the gamebut i do remember hearing whispers about it.
And sasu despite you backing the Hurricanes this year ( not a bad choice i might add) it sounds like yr still a Mainlander at heart going by yr Crusaders comments. And here i was talking up the North Island where i believe the Hurricanes and Mighty Chiefs have greater strength than their Sth Island counterparts.
Especially given the sabbaticals from stars like King Richie and Dan the man. Zac Guillford is also in hot water currently and in serious doubt also. The Crusaders are seriously weakened IMO.Last year they started very slowly and it was'nt until their stars came back did they do any good. Well theirs no cavalry this year sasu to save them but even so i won't completely write them off.
Currently the bookies still rate them highly but I can't see that lasting.
brycy those prices are far too low. Have can you expect anyone t o wear a chiefs jersey if you are only going to pay them $110!
Yep another uncouth kiwi gets pinged - its a relentles steam of boorish behaviour from the kiwis. Wonder how ou mcaaaaw is doing with his new missus? Yaaaaawn.
brycy dont get too concered about the crusties they still know how to get the ref to blow an opposing side out of the game and ensure the TV replays are not given etc. We will have to be at least 20 points better to beat the crusties and their ref.
Remember brycy only three non SA side are likely to make the last 6.
OZ should get one so which two nz teams do you think might make the last 6.
Hahahahahahahaha
@brycy,
ur right the shoulder charge is a huge attraction of the game and the ban caused quite a stir amongst fans and players, but there were some big names both current players and reknown league stars of yesteryear who agreed with the ban.
the other crazy thing is that superleague have opted to keep it in their game, so big ups to them, but i get a feeling that if SBW were heading towards the UK for his league stint, ti would be banned in the UK and not in OZ, LMAO, :oP
i havent missed out an isssue of rugby league weekly for the last 7 years, my flatmate use to get them all the time in NZ and when i moved to OZ i started to get them every week, one thing i remember in the players poll was SBW was always voted the player other players least wanted to fight, and he was the most feared player on the field, so again the aussies arent stupid, banning the shoulder ban is good for australian league players health.
Brycy
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January 20, 2013, 21:56:39
,,,And sasu despite you backing the Hurricanes this year ( not a bad choice i might add) it sounds like yr still a Mainlander at heart going by yr Crusaders comments. And here i was talking up the North Island where i believe the Hurricanes and Mighty Chiefs have greater strength than their Sth Island counterparts,,,
i dont have any real love for the crusaders, though they have traumatised my canes plenty of times in the past, so maybe thats having an effect on my pro crusaders prognosis.
and im not backing the hurricanes this year cuz, i back the hurricanes every year. wellington born, but invercargill raised.
i love all kiwi teams TBH, but hurricanes first all the way, with highlanders 2nd, so im a little annoyed that the only NZ teams to not win a super rugby title are my two top teams lolz, :o/
BTW, carter isnt on a sabbitical, hes playing in this years spXV & king richie has been named in the crusaders squad, so look for him to get some gametime with the crusaders before the june test series against the french begins.
best thing is the crusaders are smart enough to name McCaw in the squad, so hes eligible for the finals, as opposed to the stormers last year who cried like lik a pack of female dogs as the begged for sinclair to be allowed to play in the finals, only for SANZAR to tell them to F off and grow some balls, lolz lolz lolz, :oD
sasu..like you i will back all NZ franchises against OZ and SA but still think the Crusaders star is waning and North Island teams namely Chiefs and Hurricanes are in the ascendancy. Even if Carter is playing, he can be a bit accident prone and it will be a miracle if he gets through the comp unscathed. Will be interesting to see how they go without King Richie leading from the front but good move to name him as you say.
So noones actually writing the Crusaders off but with one eyed Cantab supprter Hansen bias reflected in the AB selections perhaps they're given more credence than they deserve.
Sure they've won the comp about seven times so that gives them a psychological advantage perhaps but as Bean brain keeps reminding us - you're only as good as your last game...
Brycy and Sasuke, who do you think is going to be the best performing SA side this year??
@boklogic,
thats easy, hands down i think the stormers will be the best and im expecting them to not only win their conference, but they should be the odds on favourite to take out the No1 over all spot on the combined conference.
while its a known fact they have the worst attack in the entire spXV, defence is equally imprtant in the game, and thats one are the stormers can school everyone else.
for me though its the inclusion of the lions recruits which has made an already strong team stronger, that plus the return of the stormers favourite son schalk burger, thier depth is one of the best if not the best in the comp.
stormers along with the crusaders, the chiefs and the reds, those are the four teams who i think have the best chance of winning the 2013 spXV.
Sasue
And my team for wiining Super 15 in 2013 is
THE SHARKS
Platers to watch out for in 2013 are -
Paul Jordaan
Marcell Coetzee
Jaco Reinach
Pieter-Steph Du Toit
All are stil Under 21 years of age.
The first two are already well-known - the latter the future lock partner of Eben Etzebeth
sasu...picking the rain puddle team will have Bean Brain singing in the rain but the Sharkies for me will be just as good if not better given their Kiwi coaching staff, that black jersey , their running game, when Frans Steyn's playing they seem to excell and also given the Stormers tendency to choke and Bean Brains team's inability to score tries...
But sasu when you said 'stormers along with the crusaders, the chiefs and the reds, those are the four teams who i think have the best chance of winning the 2013 spXV.
what happened to your Hurricanes?? They definitely have just as much chance as the other teams you mentioned hav'nt they ?
Especially given yr comment "and im not backing the hurricanes this year cuz, i back the hurricanes every year. wellington born, but invercargill raised..."
I like the look of the Hurricanes this year and i'd be talking them up more if i was you mate.
Brycy
After your latest posting - you really are the bbest rugby brain in New Zealand - my favourite poster. The Sharks are the obvious front runners and favourites this year.
Forget about Sasue's Crusaders - the final will be between the Sharks and the Chiefs in DURAN, Yoiu are welcome to come over and stay with me for the game. Will also take you to some game reserves and other areas of real attraction in KwaZulu-Natal.
@mikey,
i love ur passion ofr ur team, but am ho hum with ur levl of objectivity, LMAO, :oP all good though, each to their own, but given the sharks have delivered on the spXV stage as much as my hurricanes, despite both having solid teams today and in the past, maybe i need some passion for my team lessosn from u, cos ive been bit by the realist bug, :o/
i rate the sharks too TBH, and while those youngsters plus the seasoned veterans of the sharks team make them on paper one of the best, its the mental edge which i think they lack and the youngsters wont add to that for a few years to come.
ive been watching out for jordaan since u mentioned him last year and im impressed with what ive seen so far, but his real test begins this year, as im expecting him to get more regular game time in 2013.
i love coetzee, fast becoming my favourite saffa player, but i still think he would make a better blinside than openside flankler.
meyer screwed up big time playing him off the bench, cos that was a waste, especially considering alberts wasnt much to speak of during the latter Bok tests. alberts would have made a better impact player, while coetzees workrate would have kept the Boks ticking along consistently.
i like du toit, he should do very well in spXV, but im not sold on him yet, will keep a very close eye on him though.
but to the best of my guesstimation, i would have to say the sarks are a tier 2 team when it comes to chances for winning the spXV.
tier 1 teams,,,
crusaders - the most succesful team in the history of the comp, no team comes close to having what it takes to make the finals like the crusdaers, i mean the last time the crusaders didnt make any the first round of finals was 2001, thats an 11 year streak and the culture ingrained into the squad as a result of it will see them easily make the finals, but its the qaulity of the squad and the desperation of a trophieless blackadder which makes them serious spXV winners.
experience is the key which will see them again be a force to reckoned with.
stormers - great squad, depth all round which should help lighten the work load. playing against the kings twice gives coetzee a good chance to rest key players while stecthing the legs of the fringe storm players.
best defense in the comp and thats not going to change in 2013, but they do have the worst attack, which their lions acquisition will help improve.
they were unlucky to lose the sharks in the semis, cos while they deserved to lose it ecpecially with JDV making retarded captain decisions, something that bergers return will sort out. the reality is thier defence will 9 times out of 10 get them over the line and i believe they could have done that last year against any team except the chiefs IMO.
chiefs- the current champs have lost 2012 spXV best player in SBW, but SBW has left a huge parting gift, anyone who understimates the chiefs as a result of SBWless team is going to be in for a rude awkening.
dave rennie and wayne smith have been bigger contributors to the chiefs cause, luring away 2012 spXV best flyhalf aaron cruden from my hurricanes,as well as a whole host of other youngsters from around the country like robbie robinson from down my neck of the woods invercargill.
with names like t nani-williams, cruden, t kerr barlow, b taumafuina, b afeaki, b retallick, c clarke, b leonard, a pulu, r kahui, l masaga, r robinson and all under the guidance of rennie and smith, if i was a chiefs fan i would be very confident of another successful season.
reds - provided the reds are injury or near injury free, they will be a force to be reckoned with like in 2011. they are probably the weaker of the other teams, but when fully fit and playing at home, its very similar to the bulls during their golden era in loftus, they have made suncorp a real aussie house of pain.
its the conference they play in which will aid them big time in 2013, they should win their aussie darbies both home and away quite easily and this will give them an advantage of racking up points to securing a home final.
tier 2
sharks - i like the sharks team, very balanced with class of all levels and ages in most positions. despite all that, i still have huge reservations about them winning the comp, i do expect them to making the first round of the finals, but i havent seen anything from them which tells me they have the mental capcity to handle that pressure. they did well in 2012, but havent beaten NZs top two teams the chiefs and crusaders in the last two years and i dont see that changing this year either.
hurricanes - very similar to the sharks, very balanced with class of all levels and ages in most positions. unlike the sharks, hurricanes have the NZ conference to contend with and thats going to hurt their chances for a finals appearance.
should they make the finals, i would expect one of the other teams to eventually topple them, especially as the automatic leaders of every confernce will secure top three spots and with it a home final, a BS rule which SARU insisted on having.
@brycy,
i am hurricanes hard all the way, but maybe years of zero results have taken its toll on me.
we have had better hurricnae teams in the past then the current awesome team we have at the moment, and they couldnt get the job done, so maybe i should get some blind faith lessons like brother mike, LMAO, :oP
i liken my support for the canes the same way some saffas support the Boks, they love thier Boks, but still watch the game through their fingers like a horror movie waiting for the inevitable slaughter, especially when facing the All Blacks, LMAO :oP
I like the comments here.
Hurricanes are always a force but the problem with them is consistency. When they are good, they are probably the best team in the competition. When they are bad, they can go an get thumped by the Cheetahs or Lions. They just need to be consistently better. There is no better attacking team than a Hurricanes team who is on fire...Unfortunately, they battle to string a few "on fire" games together in a row...
I dont see how the Stormers are any better than the Sharks. Man for man, I would say Sharks are better. Ludik vs Joe Pietersen. Ludik..JP and Mvovo vs Van Den Heever and Aplon..JP and Mvovo..Steyn and Jordaan vs JDV and De Jongh..Steyn and Jordaan...Reinach and Lambie vs Groom and Grant/Jantjies..Reinach and Lambie... Even if you switch Taute for Pitersen, Ludik is still good enough to match if not better Taute on current form at 15. Jantjies is an inconsistent waste of time. Stormers do not have 1 combination better than the Sharks in my opinion. You would have to look at numbers 4 and 5 to find a better combination in the blue jersey. Even loose forwards. Kanko is better than Vermuelen, Marcell Coetzee and Daniel are always solid and both Boks against im guessing Schalk and Elstadt or Schalk and Fourie? We will have to see how Schalk goes after a long lay off and whilst Deon Fourie and Elstadt are good, they not international class yet. Front row belongs to the Sharks. All Bok front row...
Sasu, your comment about Boks supporters watching the game through their fingers is not far off. This year kinda felt like that. It got easier to watch when Morne' Steyn and Hougaard was dropped though ;-)
