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3rd Test Selections VS B&I Lions

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sharkbok
sharkbok
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01 Aug 2021, 00:29
#1
01 Aug 2021, 00:29#1
1. Nyakane / Kitshoff   (Nyakane is the form player- but he is also an excellent impact player off the bench). 
2. Marx/ Bongi .  Marx is starting to rediscover his best form. Lineouts - improved instantly as he entered the fray. His contribution at the breakdown helped overcome the loss of Vermeulen. 

3. Malherbe /  Koch  - Having specialist tight heads.
4. Etzebeth
5.Mostert  / Lood  (Lomp was better today but buggered up a good opportunity for a try. 
6. Kolisi /Marco Van Staden (Marco is best specialist fetcher in SA. )
7. PSDT
8. Wiese  (Was average in the 2nd test but should be given more opportunity.) 
9. Faf / Jantjies
10. Pollard / Elton Jantjies
11.  Mapimpi
12. de Allende
13. Am
14. Kolbe
15. Willie / (Willemse: Bench - Utility )

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Augenöffner
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01 Aug 2021, 02:07
#2
01 Aug 2021, 02:07#2

Wiese is another failed call by the plastics. Back to Kwagga is the only logical choice given that Dan isn't an option. I tried to give him a chance before passing judgment, but this is just another bloated Afrikaner but also a very dim-witted fellow.

Lood made a lineout steal, there wasn't anything else.

Kwagga is our best specialist fetcher alongside Marx. Van Staden is another unskilled lump.

Koch ahead of Malherbe, who was well off the pace.

Marx being a breakdown threat gives him the edge. Vital for the third test. 

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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Aug 2021, 05:42
#3
01 Aug 2021, 05:42#3

My team would be the following:-

15   Willie

14   Kolbe

13  Am

12   De Allende

11   Mapimpi

10   Pollard

9    De Klerk

8    Wiese

7    Du Toit - if available but that is unlikely - otherwise Kwagga

6    Kolisi

5   De Jager

4   Etzebeth

3   Malherbe

2   Marx

1   Kitshoff


16   Mbonambi

17  Nyakane

18    Koch

19   Snyman  - Hope he is available

20   not sure

21   Van Staden

22   Jantjies

23   Willemse/

As per normal the Kindergarten Imbecile missed three-quarters of the game.    De Allende made more turnovers than  Kwagga did.       


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Mozart
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01 Aug 2021, 07:00
#4
01 Aug 2021, 07:00#4
  But Dave said Lomp isn’t match fit, and he was already beginning to drop balls at the end of his stint. He has always had a problem sustaining a good level.
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DbDraad
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01 Aug 2021, 08:17
#5
01 Aug 2021, 08:17#5

Looks like PSDT  might have a serious injury.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Aug 2021, 09:06
#6
01 Aug 2021, 09:06#6

Mozart

Dave said nothing of the sport after yesterdays game anyway.   De Jager was a dominant factor in the line-outs where Mostert  in the first half failed.   He also was the co-ordinator of rolling mauls and was excellent in that - Mostert never once was and the nmauls fdid not go anywhere when eh was involved.

Dave 

It seemed that Du Toit has a shoulder injury caused by a late tackle on him.    He stayed on playing for a while - and then left. the field - in the commentary it was said that he  was not a happy chap and will likely be out of the game next week.   Mozart will be ultra happy about that one.                 

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01 Aug 2021, 09:09
#7
01 Aug 2021, 09:09#7

If Pieter Steph is injured who should we select? 

Pity that Vermeulen wasn't able to recover in time. But the boys held up well today. 

Maybe Kwagga is better at 7 than 8, gives him more freedom to roam and carry the ball. 

I just wish RG was fit, would have made a massive difference. 

But I think Rassie did the right thing with his front row. Trevor and Koch brought the bomb squad back. 

I don't know that the pack would look like. Backline stay as they are. 

But agree that Wiese need  another crack at 8. After all Steph gave away loads of penalties. 

But I don't think we are going to see Steph again. 

Maybe the following combination might work 

  1. Kitshoff / Trevor
  2. Bongi / Marx
  3. Malherbe / Koch
  4. Etzebeth / Lomp
  5. Elstadt / Lomp
  6. Kolisi
  7. Mostert / Kwagga
  8. Wiese / Kwagga

sharkbok
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01 Aug 2021, 21:35
#8
01 Aug 2021, 21:35#8
If Steph Dutoit is injured, perhaps Mostert at 7 is an option to improve the lineout. 
When Marx came on the lineouts improved by initially throwing to the front. Then Lood came on, the lineouts improved throwing to the middle. 
They were also more competitive on Lion's throws. For some reason, the Boks have barely competed on the Lions lineout this series until now. 

    6. Kolisi

    7. Mostert / Kwagga

    8. Vermeulen? / Jasper

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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Aug 2021, 22:31
#9
01 Aug 2021, 22:31#9
Lood made Mostert look like the pretender he is Team has to be: 15. Willie 14. Kolbe 13. Am 12. de Allende 11. Mapimpi 10. Pollard 9. Faf 1. Kitshoff 2. Marx 3. Malherbe 4. Etzebeth 5. Lood 6. Kolisi 7. PSDT 8. Vermeulen 16. Mbonambi 17. Nyakane 18. Wilco Louw 19. Mostert 20. Kwagga 21. Jantjies 22. Willemse 23. Jessie Kriel If PSDT is not fit then Mostert starts at 7 If Vermeulen is not fit then we have to stick with Wiese as Kwagga is a physical liability at 8
sharkbok
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01 Aug 2021, 22:48
#10
01 Aug 2021, 22:48#10
Having both Marx and Vermeulen in top form makes the Bok pack invincible at the breakdown.
That would also make testing Mostert at blindside easier- if PSDT is injured. 
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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Aug 2021, 22:56
#11
01 Aug 2021, 22:56#11
If Vermeulen is fit, the Lions will cry
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Mozart
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Aug 2021, 23:56
#12
01 Aug 2021, 23:56#12
Lomp will become Lomp again in the third test, we have seen these brief successes before. And by the way Mike, you may be happy when players you don’t like get injured, but please don’t ascribe those low instincts to me.
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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Aug 2021, 00:13
#13
02 Aug 2021, 00:13#13
Lood is ten times the player physical liability Mostert is Geez could a player get smashed any further back than Mostert was in that last test?
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Mozart
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Aug 2021, 00:20
#14
02 Aug 2021, 00:20#14

Yep the way Lomp was smashed by Vunipola in the WC final ….back to the changing room. That’s further methinks.

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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Aug 2021, 00:23
#15
02 Aug 2021, 00:23#15
That’s a lie he never smashed him at all. Very little contact was made - ive had the same with my shoulder Big Lood does not get smashed backwards with interest nor would he ever struggle to clear out an 18 year old fullback
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Mozart
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Aug 2021, 03:41
#16
02 Aug 2021, 03:41#16

Okay if you say so Vunipola gave him a gentle tap….whatever he did  was enough to put Lomp out of commission.

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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Aug 2021, 04:31
#17
02 Aug 2021, 04:31#17

Mozart

That was no gnetle tap and you know what happened - but still falsify it.   

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Saffolk
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02 Aug 2021, 11:47
#18
02 Aug 2021, 11:47#18
Well it certainly was not a huge smash on Lood as you maintain. Lood obviously made contact but one certainty is that Vinipola never smashed him. It was very innocuous. But that’s a shoulder for you. I’ve had my arm stretched out on the back of a sofa and sneezed only to have my shoulder pop
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clevermike
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02 Aug 2021, 13:04
#19
02 Aug 2021, 13:04#19

The problem with Mostert is that when Erasmus became the Springbok Director of Rugby - he realized there was a problem at 7 and asked the Lions and the stormers to use Mostert and du Toit at 7 to see whether they will make the grade.   The Lions complied and after three matches in Super Rugby they reported to Erasmus that Mostert was not up to standard and moved him back to the lock position.     The problem basically is that Mostert  is a poor open-fled tackler and Erasmus used him in the absence of De Jager as the number 5 lock because De Jager was injured.  After losing to the AB's in the WC Erasmus moved Mostert to the bench and the only reason why he started thus far is again because  neither Snyman nor  De Jager was really ready to play.           

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Saffolk
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02 Aug 2021, 13:13
#20
02 Aug 2021, 13:13#20
It took Lood a few minutes of play in the 2nd test to once again confirm how much better he is than Mostert in every respect. A real lock vs a pretender
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clevermike
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02 Aug 2021, 13:22
#21
02 Aug 2021, 13:22#21

Dave 

There is one issue that I think whether Marx or Mbonambi should start  is what contribution the two  make to scrumming.    Marx makes a major contribution in scrumming he is a monster when it comes to physicality and his contribution is vital in the case of the back-up scrummers,   One only have to look at the WC final to realize how important Marx is in scrumming.

By the way I do believe that Nyakane is a better loosehead than a tighthead,       

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