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5 talking points re 4th week

Started by Beeno16 REPLIES158 VIEWS· 09 Mar 2015, 18:36
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Mar 2015, 18:36
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09 Mar 2015, 18:36#1

Ex Sport 24


Cape Town - Sport24 highlights 5 talking points after the fourth weekend's action of Super Rugby.

1. You can win rugby games off scraps

It may not always be the case, but the Lions added fire to the argument that in the modern game it’s better to play without the ball. (NOT REALLY)

The men from Johannesburg upset the Blues 13-10 at North Harbour Stadium despite being on the back foot for large parts.

Statistics were heavily in favour of the Blues and when one takes a look at the Vodacom Rugby Stats App, it’s hard to fathom exactly how the Lions sneaked a win.

The Blues dominated possession (61%) and territory (74%), they ran 504m compared to the Lions’ 204m, they made 4 clean breaks to 2, had 199 carries to the Lions' 57, beat 25 defenders to their opponents’ 10 and made only 70 tackles to the mammoth 178 by Johan Ackermann’s charges.

Blues coach John Kirwan must be scratching his head, wondering just how his team scored only 10 points despite dominating to such an extent. (BRAINPOWER IS THE PROBLEM - LACK ON THE FILED LEADERSHIP))

2. Strong Stormers scrum

The Stormers scrum is fast developing into one of their key weapons. Their 29-13 annihilation of the Sharks was largely set up by a dominant forward display, none more than at scrum time.

They won no fewer than 3 tightheads off the Sharks feed as man-of-the-match Steven Kitshoff demolished a hapless Matt Stevens.

The Sharks embarrassed themselves in the 30th minute when Stormers flyhalf Demetri Catrakilis kicked a penalty over the dead-ball line. Instead of opting for a scrum from where Catrakilis had kicked near half-way, the Sharks decided they didn’t want the scrum and took a drop-in from the 22m line instead. (PLEASE NOTE ROOITWIT - Hapless stompies - bwahahahahahahhaha)

The signing of Vincent Koch from the Pumas was also one of the better signings made in recent years by the Cape franchise. (Agree)

3. Stormers penalty try

It has been confirmed that the penalty try awarded to the Stormers in their 29-13 win over the Sharks was the correct call made by referee Jaco Peyper.

A penalty try was awarded when in the 66th minute when Sharks scrumhalf Cobus Reinach played the ball from an off-side position in the in-goal area. It prevented Dillyn Leyds from scoring after Odwa Ndungane had knocked the ball on.

There was confusion over whether a player can be adjudged off-side in the in-goal area.

Sharks centre Frans Steyn was heard protesting to the referee that you can’t be off-side in the in-goal area and this writer was admittedly also questioning the call at the time.

However, according Rule 11.1 (b) of World Rugby's regulations, the off-side rule does exist in the in-goal area.

4. It’s pointless for attacking players to contest a high ball

In the game between the Cheetahs and Bulls in Bloemfontein, referee Stuart Berry penalised Bulls fullback Jesse Kriel after he contested for a high ball with counterpart Willie le Roux, who caught the ball. Kriel collided with Le Roux but he was penalised because he was the ‘attacking player’. Both players were in the air and had their eyes on the ball, but referees penalise the attacking players, saying the onus is on them to bring the player who wins the contest to ground safely. It appears in the modern game it’s no longer worth it for the attacking players to jump and contest a high ball. World Rugby needs to address this issue. It is a contact sport, after all (It was swhat cost us the test aginst the hapless Irish!!!)

5. Coenie Oosthuizen finding form

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer will be pleased to see that prop Coenie Oosthuizen is finally starting to come into his own as a tighthead prop. Oosthuizen was simply colossal for the Cheetahs in a losing cause against the Bulls this past Saturday. His scrummaging was on par, while his barn-storming runs and impressive defence stood out from the rest of this team-mates.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
09 Mar 2015, 19:48
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09 Mar 2015, 19:48#2
As the commentators said, Coenie is a man on a mission and is quite obviously aiming for the RWC and Jannie's (undeserved) spot at tighthead for the Boks.
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oimateyPro1,870 posts
09 Mar 2015, 20:30
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09 Mar 2015, 20:30#3
"It’s pointless for attacking players to contest a high ball"
This aspect is getting ridiculous. It used to be that if both players have eyes for the ball and are competing for the ball, then whatever the outcome is apart from a knock on, its play on. The penalty on Kriel when Willie went over the top of him was justified by the ref because in his words Willie had jumped first and jumped higher thereby winning the contest. Except that Kriel was in a better position and came away with the ball.


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
09 Mar 2015, 20:35
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09 Mar 2015, 20:35#4
No mention of the lucky bounce of the ball that led to the soft first try for the Hapless Stompies, Baboon-ou? 
I think that was more relevant and result-defining than any of the other chest-beating and self-congratulatory drivel you raised . . . second being the 50/50 calls that all went the way of the Hapless Stompies . . . the kind of thing that would have you shrieking to the heavens and blubbering like a little baby if the boot was on the other foot.
Well done to the Stompies but only a slack-jawed half-wit or a complete rugby noob would deny they were very lucky.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Mar 2015, 20:48
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09 Mar 2015, 20:48#5
You are a sad loser  RooiAAS......have another dop you'll feel better. Or put some money on another horse, everybody has the right to dream.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Mar 2015, 21:08
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09 Mar 2015, 21:08#6
 I do have a problem with the penalty try issue - but not on the issue of the actual awarding of the try - but what happened just after the Stormers kick in.   Francois Steyn caught the ball from the kick-in - but was driven back about 15 meters by the Stormers.  He then passed the ball to Reinach instead of going down and allowing for a ruck to develop.   
The pass was about a 2 meter one and Reinach was in deep trouble - the Stormers players were virtually on top of him when he received the hospital pass from Francois Steyn.   There was nobody else he could pass the ball to - the driving back of Steyn was so fast the other players stayed behind.  There were also no players that could protect  the ball in the event he was tackled - so he tried to kick - but the ball was charged down by De Allende - and the rest is history.
The problem started with the thoughtless and amateurish play by Francois Steyn.   All he had to do was to go down and allow for the forming of the resultant ruck.  He failed comprehensively in what he did .         
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Mar 2015, 22:16
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09 Mar 2015, 22:16#7
 Go and look at the stats rooi twit your hapless bunch were outplayed. Bwahahahahahhahahahaha
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