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A team I would like to see on the field.

Started by Beeno118 REPLIES792 VIEWS· 27 Nov 2022, 11:53
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Nov 2022, 11:53
#1
27 Nov 2022, 11:53#1

This run on team assumes everyone is fit

Kitshoff, Marx, Malherbe 

Eben and Snyman

Kolisi, Roos, Du Toit

Faf, Libok 

Willemse and Am

Kolbe, Arendse and Willie. 


If Willemse's defence is not up to it the very good Allende comes back. Lood comes in if Snyman doesn't come back. 


Roos is clearly better than Wiese. 

Great Pack and great attacking backs. 

Best coach in the game as well in Rassie. 

Baring injuries and bent refs a side capable of wining the RWC again. If that happens be sure Mozzzz and his little echo Alucard will still be complaining about Rassie etc


DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Nov 2022, 14:20
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27 Nov 2022, 14:20#2

Roos is not better than Wiese. The jury is still out on him, but as evidenced on this season's body of work, no. Wiese, Eben, Kwagga are our three most important forwards. Faf is not test quality, Willemse is not a 12, Kolisi and Steph are not test quality. You're a funny man Mr Been, almost as funny as Saffex. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Nov 2022, 14:27
#3
27 Nov 2022, 14:27#3
Great side Beeno Roos is twice the player Wiese is and I’d still have Pollard at 10 with Libbok on the bench It’s a tough one trying to accommodate Willemse as he is a must but can it be at the expense of de Allende - doubt it
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Nov 2022, 14:37
#4
27 Nov 2022, 14:37#4

He is twice the player you say. Can this be observed in his carries, tackles, passes or steals etc? Please direct me to the double output. Thanks in advance. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Nov 2022, 15:05
#5
27 Nov 2022, 15:05#5
He has the same physicality as Wiese but is equally a ball player which Wiese is not Wiese is literally dumb muscle albeit effective dumb muscle Roos has rugby intelligence, is able to beat players through strength or skill Has pace, good hands and a great rugby brain - runs great lines, can step Is able to play the direct or linking game Get it Doos, I suspect not - not thst I fucking care Roos is a generational talent, Wiese is not even close - all Wiese has is physicality, no creativity and poor hands
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Nov 2022, 15:14
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27 Nov 2022, 15:14#6

Absolutely none of those attributes were present for the Boks. The things that exist in your head only exist in your head. Pure fantasy. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Nov 2022, 15:32
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27 Nov 2022, 15:32#7
Well of course not you stupid prick. He has hardly played any test match rugby He has displayed all that at provincial level and there were glimpses yesterday. He had a good game yesterday He needs investment at test level just like Wiese was afforded When Wiese started he was shit, but has settled given the investment and is now making an impression
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Nov 2022, 15:52
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27 Nov 2022, 15:52#8

Wiese was thrown in at the deep end and succeeded. He was very good in the Lions series and the RC. In fact, he was out best defender, as well as our only reliable carrier in traffic. He isn't the fan favourite, but he has out produced Roos quite comfortably. Debutant Wiese is much, much better than debutant Roos. All your assertions for what he is at test level have no basis. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Nov 2022, 15:57
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27 Nov 2022, 15:57#9
Stop speaking utter crap he was shit when he started, fumbled balls was awful at controlling the ball in the scrums and made no impression with ball in hand. Was so shit we were all calling for him to be dropped Roos has been far far better in his start to test rugby You make shit up Wiese is good there is nothing special about him. I’d take Roos and Dan du Preez over him anyday
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Nov 2022, 16:17
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27 Nov 2022, 16:17#10

Well, I'm grateful you aren't doing video analysis for Erasmus, or coach. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Nov 2022, 18:09
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27 Nov 2022, 18:09#11

No Dud Allende then  HasBeen….I was calling for Willemse at 12 last year, nice to see you catching up. Perhaps in a year or so you will grasp having a lock like Dud Toit swanning on the wing does nothing for us.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Nov 2022, 19:18
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27 Nov 2022, 19:18#12

Now here we go again - the two idiots are too involved in an one track idiocy complex.  Lets get it straight - they still think about the Meyer technique - the loosies are an extension of the Tight 5 with no part to play in attack.   Loosies when linking up with backline players helps with creating overlaps and create spaces for attack.   If they have ball sense they know where they would be most effective in such cases.    Drawing in multiple defenders they and players like De Allende help with quick ball recovery from breakdown situations also opening gaps for further attacks.

   

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Nov 2022, 19:27
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27 Nov 2022, 19:27#13

the two idiots are too involved in an one track idiocy complex.

Now here we go again indeed 

 Lets get it straight - they still think about the Meyer technique - the loosies are an extension of the Tight 5 with no part to play in attack. 

I don't see what Meyer has to do with anything right now. The loosies as an extension of the tight 5? Mr Clever, you are getting yourself tied up in knots on a subject you clearly know nothing about. Please end this charade Mr Clever, because I'm starting to feel embarrassed for you. I don't think I can take it anymore. 

PS - Is having a lock at flank making the loose trio more or less dynamic? 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Nov 2022, 23:23
#14
27 Nov 2022, 23:23#14

Mozzzzz I said it was a team I would like to see play. 

I picked our most attacking backline as I see it. Hence no Pollard. I want to see just how much we have on attack.  We know what fine players we have in Pollard and Allende. It maybe that they get the whole balance right but let's see.  

Because I am suggesting giving this backline a chance doesn't mean I don't rate Allende or Pollard. We need to see what our options are. So we can pick horses for courses.

One think that worries me a bit about that backline is size. They may cope but let's see how they go. Allende is extremely strong, like an extra loose. Pollard is also a big fly half. 

Doubtless that master mind Rassie is growing the side and weighing things up. 

I was very impressed by Roos. As Dave said he has the brawn but also very importantly the rugby brain. Nice turn of pace. Very promising. Lame ou naturally gets this player all wrong. He stumbles from one absurdity to another. Bwahahaha. 

Now poor Mozzzz thinks he personally has discovered Willemse and Allende supporters think he has to  play every single test. Hahahahaha I have for some time thought Alle nde and Am are over played. Until recently the cupboard wasn't overflowing with riches but that is changing. 



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Nov 2022, 23:31
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27 Nov 2022, 23:31#15

Methinks you protest too much, stick with Moz if you want next year’s good ideas today. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Nov 2022, 23:36
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27 Nov 2022, 23:36#16

Poor old Clever is still trying to work out  why the Joker and Nadal dominated Major  tennis again…..even though one player was banned in 2 out of 4 Majors and the other had no serviceable knees. Finally my youngster pick, way before the media, just slaughtered the seuntjie Clever  said was going to win more Majors than Nadal.


He has run into a brick wall there and so he is back trying to get some payback in the rugby section. Unfortunately he is clueless here as well,

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2022, 00:08
#17
28 Nov 2022, 00:08#17

Mozart

You have been wrong whenever you open your mouth on anything relating to sport and you always believe in prejudice - nothing else,    You have a mania about players who were great in the past and anything new you reject.   Your hate campaigns against players are ongoing for 9 years now and you pretend you see things that never happened.    You got caught lying too many times to write anything credible on site.        


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2022, 00:08
#18
28 Nov 2022, 00:08#18

Mozart

You have been wrong whenever you open your mouth on anything relating to sport and you always believe in prejudice - nothing else,    You have a mania about players who were great in the past and anything new you reject.   Your hate campaigns against players are ongoing for 9 years now and you pretend you see things that never happened.    You got caught lying too many times to write anything credible on site.        


DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
28 Nov 2022, 00:31
#19
28 Nov 2022, 00:31#19

Notice how the most consistently wrong people are the most foul mouthed and the quickest to get personal! That's pretty funny! 

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