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A tragedy on Site

Started by clevermike63 REPLIES1,045 VIEWS· 05 Nov 2019, 11:38
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RazorClub Pro150 posts
06 Nov 2019, 09:50
#41
06 Nov 2019, 09:50#41

Seriously...what is the matter with you lot??? I can only assume you actually like each other and just love the toxic banter.

You've just won the RWC FFS!!!!!!!... the rugby championship...team of the year..player of the year and coach of the year.

Enjoy the moment...feel good?

....now you know how it feels...I've had many years of this feeling...enjoy it while it lasts.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Nov 2019, 10:30
#42
06 Nov 2019, 10:30#42

Mozart

Why was Mostert dropped from the starting line-up after the AB WC game.   Let me take some time and explain the reason.

In the first instance the Erasmus master plan was tested in many games with the objective of seeing whether players are capable of participation properly  in executing the plan and when they came short they were getting the chop from the starting line-up or from the squad.  Mostert  however obviously failed in a number of matches and in the test I referred to he was also a negative.  .  

Secondly Mostert missed the tackle that ended up in a try being scored by the AB's.   It was not the first time  Mostert failed in making such tackles in the past year - so that must have been influencing the decision to drop him from the starting line-up in crucial tests.              

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Nov 2019, 10:32
#43
06 Nov 2019, 10:32#43

Razor, it's the Saffa way...we love to disagree on everything...and nothing is ever good enough, we'll always find something to complain about...on the flipside, we always find something to be positive about too, even when all seems lost.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Nov 2019, 10:44
#44
06 Nov 2019, 10:44#44

The celebrations ended Saturday evening. Back to business

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Nov 2019, 10:55
#45
06 Nov 2019, 10:55#45

Razor

Agree with you wholeheartedly and am enjoying the win.   Problem is that some members on site has been on an anti-Erasmus campaign for years now and the fact that the Springboks won after their totally negative attacks on them has more to do with personal protection against retorts by other members than what actually happened in the games. 

I am very happy about the way the AB's manhandled the Wales team and fact is the two top ranking positions clearly indicates how the two top rugby teams in the world should in fact being rated all the time.    

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Nov 2019, 14:13
#46
06 Nov 2019, 14:13#46

Mozart you know that De Allende was in no position to make that tackle you said he should have made. - he was not near enough to May to tackle him or even try to tackle him.   At best he was at least three to four meters away from May.   

Please keep to facts  for a change.  

Yes, clearly three to four meters away. Let's keep to the facts, as ou Mike says Note the tackle opportunity was once May had moved outside the goal area, Moz .


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Nov 2019, 14:18
#47
06 Nov 2019, 14:18#47

Thanks Pakie - I thought initially De Allende where fu rther away from May/   

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Nov 2019, 14:21
#48
06 Nov 2019, 14:21#48

Er, you thanked me? You're not going to tell me I doctored the pic or used deceptive angles? Jewish lady must have made you a very nice lunch today. But you're welcome Mike, it's important to get these things right when discussing the game.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Nov 2019, 14:27
#49
06 Nov 2019, 14:27#49

No comment

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Nov 2019, 15:17
#50
06 Nov 2019, 15:17#50

Pakie, in some of your and some of the other posters' spats with Maaik, you guys sometimes give the impression that you are "attacking" some of the Boks. Oom Maaik is a bit overprotective about some of his "likes" and overly "aggressive" in his "dislikes"  ...and so enthusiastic in his defense/offence, he loses a bit of perspective at times...as do we all...I was surprised too when he conceded his error after the pic....

I'm also surprised that people noticed so many errors, even after watching it again, I hardly noticed big errors and almost always felt comfortable about how the Boks were playing. I started feeling confident while observing our players during the anthem, and that confidence stayed with me right up until the end. Obviously a bit nervous because anything can happen...and does, but our cover defense was outstanding.

We won the RWC, I think we can be less critical of players till their next match at least.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
06 Nov 2019, 16:13
#51
06 Nov 2019, 16:13#51

I don't attack. I call a spade a spade. Emotional types and I have a low level of mutual compatibility , though. It's too real for them. Hence my name. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Nov 2019, 16:48
#52
06 Nov 2019, 16:48#52
Draad so much of rugby is hot air......'too much gas', 'huge engine', 'crushing tackle', 'so physical' etc etc.
But these labels are applied subjectively to players....there is a 'what really happened factor'. It's investigative work ....fun. Stephanie is seemingly the nicest bloke in the Boks set up, that doesn't change the objective assessment, but it certainly warps the subjective view.
Why the truth is so offensive to some posters is a mystery.....but their patently dishonest squawking just makes it more fun to show what really happened .
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Nov 2019, 16:51
#53
06 Nov 2019, 16:51#53

True Auge, but your views are bias too...i'ts the human condition...you have a very systematic way of presenting your facts and you have an unique way of analyzing the game, but you can be too critical at times...You have your blind spots too...your likes and dislikes.

Rassie managed to create a team environment where the sum was more than the individual parts...you have recognized in a previous post I think. There will always be the possibility of a better player or combination, but if you have less than 2 years to prepare for a RWC, you must settle on your most-likely-best-team and the game plan to suit them best...and then you must stick to your guns and see it through. That is exactly what Rassie and his team did, and they timed it to perfection. Our team peaked in the final...warts and all, we are the rugby world champions for the next 4 years. Yes, there are room for improvement of the personnel and the game plan, but we have a great platform to build from...gradually...we have that luxury ATM and the team earned it....and it seams that some on here does not want to give them the credit they deserve for it.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Nov 2019, 19:52
#54
06 Nov 2019, 19:52#54

EGG mountains of EGG have landed. The Trio have nowhere to go. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Nov 2019, 22:41
#55
06 Nov 2019, 22:41#55

But yet they stand fast...they h ave higher standards than a wee rugby world cup!

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
07 Nov 2019, 01:47
#56
07 Nov 2019, 01:47#56

Razor...it is what it is....hang around you'll get used to it or you'll get sick of it but one thing for sure, it ain't gonna change.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
07 Nov 2019, 07:39
#57
07 Nov 2019, 07:39#57

But yet they stand fast...they have higher standards than a wee rugby world cup!

Draad, as Moz said, for some of us it's fun to take the game down to a play by play level. We like to dig deeper than "LEKKA BOKKE YES BOYS!". Everyone can make of it what they want, ignore it, ridicule it, disagree with it, whatever. For me digging into individual plays, following a single player around to see what they actually get involved in during the 80 minutes, that's the interesting part.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Nov 2019, 08:08
#58
07 Nov 2019, 08:08#58

Pakie

If digging deeper only entail to demonize and belittle certain players or anybody else is not aimed on real and objective analysis so  it is total BS and that remains why especially Mozart and AO "digs deeper".     There is never  a positive word of any of the players subjected  to "dig deeper" - it all goes around only certain players and not everyone.   If the players they try and dig up faults - often imaginary ones - they ignore positive contribution totally.

What dig deeper means should not be what they make it out to be and you are not entirely innocent about it either.   On the whole such "digging deeper" is totally worthless and negative BS ..     .  

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
07 Nov 2019, 11:33
#59
07 Nov 2019, 11:33#59

Mike...there's a song called "Tragedy "...would you like to hear it?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Nov 2019, 15:07
#60
07 Nov 2019, 15:07#60

It would be easy to lose one's breakfast reading Muck's holier than thou rants, knowing what he has said about Vermeulen, Jantjies, Pollard, Mostert and Louw among many others.

Hypocrite doesn't even begin to cover it. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Nov 2019, 15:33
#61
07 Nov 2019, 15:33#61

Did I say anything negative about any of the players who played in Japan after the WC?    Fact is I  said near to zero because there were sound reasons why Jantjies was NOT playing in the play-off games and why Mostert and Louw was on the bench and not in the starting side in those games. 

What Beeno said elsewhere that this is all an effort to get out of the corner into which you painted yourself into - sad to say.    What I said about Vermeulen and Louw before the tests this year is mild compared the malignant attacks on players you have been starting hundreds of threads about.   So I have reason for what I wrote on site.  I caused for some levelness in dealing with issues - but you apparently are not interested on objective assessment of anything,     .  

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Nov 2019, 18:28
#62
07 Nov 2019, 18:28#62

Maaik, you didn't exactly acknowledge your mistakes regarding them either.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
07 Nov 2019, 22:45
#63
07 Nov 2019, 22:45#63

Here Mike....just for you...now quit droning and enjoy.



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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 Nov 2019, 23:53
#64
07 Nov 2019, 23:53#64

Vok, but that's a tragic song ...... be shocking to listen to with a babelaas.

ouMaaik when I saw the heading, I thought, sheeit who's dead ..... the board's shutting ..... Beano's been granted moderator status.

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