AGAgPleezDeddy
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AGAgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
18 Jan 2015, 17:23#1
What an innings by ABD, an absolute pleasure watching the man bat. Up there with most naturally gifted cricketers ever.Special mentions to Amla and Roussow too on a couple of outstanding knocks too.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jan 2015, 19:10#2
The Proteas could have bate the world record for the highest score ever in ODI's - they were just 5 runs short.
The fact that they improved their batting record in ODI's reminded me of the previous game where they scored 438 runs against the Aussies, In that game Gibbs scored 175 runs facing 115 balls. Today AB showed us how much superior a batsman he really is - scoring 149 runs off 44 balls.
He broke the world record for -
* the fastest 50 ever scored in ODI's from 16 balls;* the fastest 100 ever scored in ODI's from 31 balls.
One more run and h would have broken the 150 run scored record too.
The groundwork for AB was laid by Rossouw and Amla - with just over 11 overs remaining - at that stage Rossouw was out after scoring 128 runs from 114 balls and Amla was at 115 runs off 114 balls. AB was in an excellent position to score massively and he did. Beyond a doubt a cricketing genius and the best batsman in the world at present.
GEgeneraltit
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18 Jan 2015, 21:20#3
I agree...what a player but even more what a human spirit...what a really gifted human being. Amla too ....Has and AB make a plan... you too can bring the cup to deserving Saffas and let poor Alan Donald present it in the memory of very dear Hansie.
Anyway if any of you guys read this...extremely well done oaks...too proud of you ...be ing part of this nation.
18 Jan 2015, 22:27#4
Cricket as with rugby.... 99% of the time, both sports exude humility on and off the pitch.
It was lovely to see Chris Gayle bow to AB when he marched off, almost as it to say "it can't get any better than that".
When AB reached his hundred, he almost looked shy!
I love this era of Protea team. They some stars littered amongst other very good players and they remain humble. They deserve their success.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Jan 2015, 22:42#5
AB is an awesome talent, cant recall seeing such a gifted bat......his free spirit adds to the attraction....had he been a rugby player, he would have been a Willie.
As free spirited and explosive as AB is, we have the equally impressive, more measured class act in Amla.......these two are just so lethal together.......could they be more consistent or domineering.......we are blessed with two of the finest the game has seen......and in Steyn another.
Great to see Rossouw playing his coming of age innings and also Miller doing the same in the first game.
It will be a travesty of justice if Berhardien plays ahead of Rossouw in the WC starting side when de Kock returns.
The side has to be:
1. Amla 2. de Kock 3. Faf 4. AB 5. Miller 6. JP 7. Rossouw 8. Philander 9. Steyn 10. Morkel 11. Tahir.....easy side to pick
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jan 2015, 01:44#6
Dave
Problem is - who is going to be the fifth bowler? That role was shared between Duminy and Behardien today and it was not really a success. Besides that Behardien's batting was problematic in the ODI's played thus far - as well as in the T20's Bad news - that one. Maybe they should use - Duminy, AB and Faf to do the 5th bowler's function and forget about Behardien.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Jan 2015, 07:03#7
AB is almost too good for his own press. The guy goes in there regardless of circumstances and never looks like he is in trouble. Compared to him prior SA greats like Pollock or the charismatic Roy McLean look like hit or miss artists.
So frequently this great bat seems less interesting to the media than players who struggle to produce results. But his 149 against India was so stupendous it will be the talk leading up to the WC. Some of those offside sixes were hard to believe.
DEDenny
Captain12,893 posts
19 Jan 2015, 10:02#8
Fortunately with Quentin back in the side Behardien gets the ch op, I don't see how they're going to accommodate him, JP will be the fifth bowler or share the 5th bowlers role.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jan 2015, 11:24#9
Denny
I think the top line-up should be as follows:-
1 Amla2 De Kock3 Du Plessis4 De Villiers5 Rossouw6 Miller7 Duminy8 Philander9 Steyn10 Morkel11 Tahir
Against weaker teams they can play around a bit by resting some key players.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jan 2015, 11:38#11
Dave
If Behardien was of any use as a batsman - then maybe he could have been included - but he is not - and that is the end of the story. He is not an all-rounder at all - so why is he in the squad? I agree with you about Van Zyl as well.
RORooinek
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RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
19 Jan 2015, 11:52#12
This website has a cricket section.
19 Jan 2015, 11:55#13
Pinched from another forum:
"Fly like a butterfly, sting like AB"
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jan 2015, 13:47#16
Dave
You are right - David Wiese is a better all-round player than Behardien. He definitely is a better bowler
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Jan 2015, 15:24#18
I see that young de Bruyn is on 129 not out against England A in the second 'test' after making 202 not out in the first 'test'......this 22 year old must have something about him?
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Jan 2015, 16:01#19
We can't win with Duminy as the fifth bowler....we can't win with Duminy and Behardien as joint fifth bowlers.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Jan 2015, 16:54#20
I we cant win with JP as our 5th bowler then no side will win with their 5th bowler as no ODI side has the luxuary of playing 5 specialist bowlers
AGAgPleezDeddy
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19 Jan 2015, 19:32#21
JP and Faf should be good enough for 10 overs together. Although I do feel that our main weakness is that fifth bowling options
If you look at the Aussies for instances, there's bowling options all through their team.
But Steyn, Philander, Morkel is about as good as you get. Tahir is a very good limited overs bowler. So if they tighten up and do the business then there's no reason JP and Faf shouldn't be good enough.
AGAgPleezDeddy
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19 Jan 2015, 20:47#23
Yes Blikkies, Wiese would have been good. A good bat too. Guess we'll just have to make do with what we have now though.
Luckily we have a very good batting line-up, excellent fielders and one of the best pace attacks in the tournament.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jan 2015, 21:02#24
Mozart
We cannot have a poor bowler and poor batsman like Behardien on the pretext that he can bowl a few overs - when he goes for plenty runs. If he was any good as a batsman there is justification to replace one of the batsman with him - but his batting is as bad as his bowling.
If we have to have an all-rounder in the team - I would say Wiese is a much better option and so is Van Zyl - but that cannot be changed now and we have to use Duminy, de Villiers and Faf or even Rossouw combined to bowl ten overs. At least all four of the above are class batsmen. If those four goes for 60 runs or even 70 runs - fine, there batting is good enough to off-set that. Not that Behardien's bowling would go for less - that indeed is doubtful - and with him around like on Sat urday - someone else will have to do the off-setting.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Jan 2015, 22:51#25
JP is as good an off spinner as most of the specialist off spinners playing ODI's right now.
He has done well as a bowler both in ODI's and tests over the past 2 years.....sure he will travel at times, but then again all bowlers do. He is far better than a part time spinner.
Faf is not really an option as he is pretty kak as a bowler, but obviously an option if the wheels come off.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jan 2015, 10:20#26
Bring back King Kallis and bring back merit selection and we will win the CWC.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Jan 2015, 11:35#27
Beenkop......who are the quota selections in the starting 11 then?
DEDenny
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21 Jan 2015, 11:40#28
Abbott and Behardien......hahahahaha...Beeno of course won't see Abbott as a quota....
21 Jan 2015, 11:58#31
Saff, you are correct about the players that you have named, bar Tahir and that just goes to show how stuffed up the govt is. When Tahir eventually got approval to represent SA, it was made clear that his inclusion would not count towards any "transformation targets" because he is not the a "South African born previously disadvantaged". The same argument was applied for Beast in rugby.
Be that as it may. I think that the need for quotas in cricket is long gone and so is the argument that our teams are inferior because of quotas. All our players of colour are there on merit, without any doubt. Yes, there are questions about Behardien but, as you have said, there are also questions about white players.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jan 2015, 12:21#32
Its so nice to see we are seeing on merit only in cricket. Pleeeease!! Bavuma was a great selection. The quotas in rugby etc.Just becuae mistakes may be made re whites doesnt mean there are no quota motivated selections snaspter!!!!Sorry oaks but we are a quota obsessed bunch. Same applies to the workplace.
Per windpomp "not count towards any "transformation targets" because he is not the a "South African born previously disadvantaged". The same argument was applied for Beast in rugby".
Wake up snapster you are such a doze!
All is not rosy here. I guess ithats why you live in the UK snapster?.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Jan 2015, 13:00#33
Beenkop, just answer the question....who are the quota players in our starting 11?
21 Jan 2015, 13:42#36
Ah well. Maybe I have missed the part where they now have a bench with subs in cricket as well.
