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All Black selections based only on form.

Started by Monkey D Luffy10 REPLIES554 VIEWS· 22 May 2016, 20:21
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
22 May 2016, 20:21
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22 May 2016, 20:21#1
with form being the one and only prerequisite for this All Black selection thread, what would ur teams look like???

with the top 4 teams in super rugby being the cheifs, crusaders, highlanders and hurricanes, this really shouldnt be as easy as it sounds...

uzumaki All Black form XV

1 reggie goodes 2 dane coles, 3 jeffery toomaga allen

4 scott barret, 5 brodei retallick

6 jordan taufua, 8 steven luatua, 7 ardie savea

9 aaron smith, 10 beauden barret

12 charlie ngati, 13 george moala

11 ben smith, 15 damien mackenzie, 14 reiko ioane

16 codie taylor, 17 joe moody, 18 owen franks, 19 michael fatialofa, 20 eliot dixon, 21 andy ellis, 22 lima sopoaga, 23 israel dagg
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
22 May 2016, 20:42
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22 May 2016, 20:42#2
frontrow
hurricanes frontrow have been the form frontrow for NZ, and the crusaders have also preformed magnificently, hence their selections making up the team and bench.

locks
barret has been the form NZ lock period, conssitently outpreforming All Black incumbents and crusader teammates whitelock and romano game in and game out.

retallick had a slow start to the season, but hes hitting his peak at just the right time now and thats just o for awesome cos test rugby is just around the corner.
idk if he timed his peak just rignt, but it wouldnt surprise me he is after all the worlds best lock.

loosies
tafua and ardie shouldnt come as a surprise, their form has been unquestionable, best 6 and 7 in NZ.

No8 is a bit more contentious, the only real contenders was read, luatua and vito.
chiefs leitch is the capt of the japenese aka Bok slayers, and highlanders have for various reasons chopped and changed all season.
luatua has been one of the few bright lights in what has been a miserable dark blues cloud and thats why he gets the nod.

dixon on the bench, he would be in the starting line up if it wasnt for tafua, exceptional form for the landers.

halves
aaron smith, best half back in the world, best halfback in super rugby, nuff said.

barret, very hard to pick this one, as cruden and sopoaga have been in fantastic form too.
i ultimately went with barret and sopoaga, as those two have run their backline just as  good but not better than cruden, but their ball in hand attack has been tumeke, even by kiwi standards.

centres
ngati is the form 12 by a quite a way IMO, hes displayed a fantastic all round game from defence to attack and even a sharp kicking game.

13 has been a little tougher to select as all 5 NZ franchises have been unable to get their 13 solidified. this is a fair reflection of the current state of centres NZ has.

ultimately went with moala, cos despite his lack of quality ball, he is always creating something and making an impact on both attack and defence.

outsidebacks
mackenzie has been the most form outsideback in the comp, so his selection is a no brainer.
smith and dagg have also had seasons which is worthy of test starting, and thats why theyre in.

ioane is in my team, cos what hes been doing in 7s with his blitzing runs, hes been doing with the blues with every chance he was given.

naholo was very close to making it too, but decided to go with reiko as he has been playing his high level consistently and for a  longer period.
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
22 May 2016, 21:13
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22 May 2016, 21:13#3
 Good post San...one man who knows his nations players and other nations too...Beeno and I will recommend a prize for you...and Dr Win will post you a brand new suit from Poland...in Argie colours


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
22 May 2016, 21:25
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22 May 2016, 21:25#4
 Seb, welcome back on the site ! Looks like you want to give Naru-San an upgrade on his "spiffy blue overall"
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 May 2016, 12:54
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24 May 2016, 12:54#5
 I'm curious ... how many of your near on 13 thousand posts would you say were copy and pastes?
12 thousand??
 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 May 2016, 14:00
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24 May 2016, 14:00#6
Sasuke, I'd have Kieran Read ahead of Steven Luatua and I'd also consider Taleni Seu as a bench option who can cover lock and blindside flanker.

In the backs I'd at least give Matt Faddes a mention while I'd def have Perenara ahead of Ellis on the bench.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 May 2016, 14:56
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24 May 2016, 14:56#7
 Naru-San, my selections are based on overall form for the s18 so far; plus my bench is based on purely of form not on versatility (ability to cover more than one position). Not taking into consideration best test player but best s18 players. Also, I have not picked based on players I like (intangibles or x factor) but based on results. Change any one of these variables & I would pick a different team.
I would put Patrick Tuipulotu on the bench at lock ahead of fatialofa at lock;back row: Reid ahead of Luatua; 10: Mo'unga ahead of Barrett; I would pick Sopoaga on the bench (he has been hot especially in his last 3 games).Center: Fekitoa ahead of Moala;Agree on outside backs.
PS I would pick Weber over Ellis at 9
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 May 2016, 14:58
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24 May 2016, 14:58#8
 I see wee CC is still trying to get a rise out of me
Ok, here's something to think about, how many of your posts have been based on a copy paste of a rocky balboa personality?
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WardadPro6,663 posts
24 May 2016, 23:54
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24 May 2016, 23:54#9
 Rooie is right RE perenara who has come along a fair bit this year .Ya need Reid as Captain eh ? Ellis ? Nah mate more rugged and bugg.ered than old and bold .Which personality JW ? The old and punchy one ? I think he gets bored and pulls a name out of a hat and thats this weeks 'victim" Hi Seb hows the fishing up your way ? Been tying a few flies ?
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
25 May 2016, 03:47
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25 May 2016, 03:47#10

 ...ok let's look at this rationally...Last time I looked the table topping Chiefs captained by AAron Cruden were leading the Super Rugby competition...if that's not an indication of form then I'm not sure what is...


...other than DC, no other NZ standoff has the experience and winning record that Cruden has at international level not to mention Super Rugby titles...so short of injury to Cruden he will be the starting AB 10 for some time to come and deservedly so..

...then only Barret is versatile enough to play absolutely anywhere in the backline so he is assured a bench position as backup #22...


Front Row...Both the Crusaders and Hurricanes have good front rows but I'm wondering how the Canes will cope with the HL pack this weekend...Dane Coles is #1 regardless with Codie Taylor backup for me..


Lock stocks are healthy with Retallick, Tuipulotu, Whitelock starters......Kaino played lock at the RWC giving him the advantage over many other locks as he can also cover as a loosie off the bench...then I'd also add Scott Barrett and Seu to the wider training squad..


Loosies, you can't drop the AB captain unless we lose a game this year so the question is who accompanies Kieren Read??...a growing trend is to go with two open side flankers so I'm picking Sam Cane the machine and Ardie Savea here...Counties Jordan Taufua or Luatua to cover No 8 and flanker...


Aaron Smith and Brad Webber understudy for me at halfback..


Centres , so many to choose from but hard to go past the most dangerous, the most exciting and the best attacking backline in Super rugby ATM consisting of Cruden ,Ngatai and Temanivalu....Moala can cover wing and centre here..


Wingers.  Naholo and Savea


FB Ben Smith

McKenzie to make wider training squad for EOYT

 





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WardadPro6,663 posts
25 May 2016, 10:33
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25 May 2016, 10:33#11
 How about McKenzie on the wing ? 
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