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All Blacks vs England chat

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Nov 2024, 06:31
#121
03 Nov 2024, 06:31#121

Moolaa

Based on that performance methinks your boys have a long way to go if they are to win the next RWC. They lacked flair, superior physicality, experience and dominance at the breakdown. Jordan's try was top shelf, very enjoyable, typical AB, and sure your defence held up against a monster England pack but I'm sure you'll agree they're a level short compared to previous great AB sides.

The POMS however were just religiously boring.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2024, 06:56
#122
03 Nov 2024, 06:56#122

In at least two ot tries the England  defense went AWOL and the constant kickng ad penalie sagaainst the  AB"s   was nnt what happened in th case of he AB's in the past.   This style of play is somehing that the AB's in the past used to play rugby. 

We will see what the Irsidh do the AB eam on Friday  evening  to the AB's  it won't be nice to see.   I gave the AB's to beat Egland by 13 point syesterday and o beat Ireland by 7 points .    Sad to say I will have to change my prediction for that  Ab's of a i by 7 points to an Irish victory by 12 points.

If even one of he drop kicks the English used in the final minutes of the game was over it would have meant a loss by the AB.s..      .

         

       .     .            

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Nov 2024, 07:38
#123
03 Nov 2024, 07:38#123
Rooi, you pathetic twit...I was typing that as it happened. One guy already yellowed. And then there was a clear red card offence too, from a different player. You're such a damn wanker. Like seriously, do you have nothing better to do than to wait around and hope someone you don't like makes a mistake that you can pounce on? Seriously, get a life.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Nov 2024, 07:45
#124
03 Nov 2024, 07:45#124
Moola... The Bok scrum is our major match winner. The amount of territory and points that flows from it is ridiculous. You can keep the mauls if you like. But take our scrum dominance away and we'd struggle to beat anyone.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
03 Nov 2024, 08:11
#125
03 Nov 2024, 08:11#125

Moo, well done ABs, we've had enough one point victories to know a win is a win & you scored some grand tries. But there remains one consistent, regardless of coaching changes, the dreadful number of penalties the ABs concede, compared to their opponents.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
03 Nov 2024, 10:08
#126
03 Nov 2024, 10:08#126
Good start for the AB to pull that one thru. England,s scrum wasn’t bad and agree Borthwick shouldn’t have subbed Smith. It looked like England was gathering a bit more momentum and then Ford kinda stopped it. Anycase I think the AB need to be better in the scrum against Ireland and France. Satiti is a good player and AB Backline play is really good. Well done AB.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Nov 2024, 10:11
#127
03 Nov 2024, 10:11#127
"You're such a damn wanker. Like seriously, do you have nothing better to do than to wait around and hope someone you don't like makes a mistake that you can pounce on?"
Sniff . . . you poor, misunderstood little snowflake. You'd better run off to your safe space, ButtPlug.
Wehe, what a pathetic crybaby!
You posted your ignorant stupidity after the screen showed that red/yellow halved symbol which indicate s the yellow card is being reviewed for a possible red but - being a rugby noob - you thought it meant they had a red and a yellow.
LMAO!
That is exactly what happened.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Nov 2024, 10:33
#128
03 Nov 2024, 10:33#128

Oh Rooinek you naughty, naughty little boy, now look what you've done you've put our resident crybaby into tears and chances are he'll probably cry himself off the board for a few months...... for the fifth time!

But here's the kicker....."Seriously, get a life."

This from the tough talking pseudo intellectual whose life is having his head up someone's asshole.


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MpowerPro5,061 posts
03 Nov 2024, 10:38
#129
03 Nov 2024, 10:38#129
The Scotties 57 -17 Fiji. They are preparing for the Boks. Rassie,s first team will be interesting. Hope Wilco and Cameron will be in the Match 23.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Nov 2024, 11:12
#130
03 Nov 2024, 11:12#130
Rooi... Are you actually retarded? I posted it as they showed the first replay of the head knock. ...I assumed it may be red. Although, since I do watch rugby, I know that it's always a yellow, which then gets looked at to see if it's upgraded to red. This was after the first chap had already been sent off with the yellow...so a yellow for the first guy and I thought a red for the second guy was coming...hence me saying "A yellow and a red". Fuck, you're pathetic. And shut up Denise. Go twirl your skirt somewhere else you twatty little hoe.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Nov 2024, 11:20
#131
03 Nov 2024, 11:20#131

Sounds like you'v e upset crybaby.......hehehehe

Go-on have a good cry.....it warms the cockles of my heart 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Nov 2024, 11:36
#132
03 Nov 2024, 11:36#132
Lol Denise... I can smell your fear from here. ...or is it cheap tranny perfume?
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Nov 2024, 11:45
#133
03 Nov 2024, 11:45#133

Uh-Oh Our crybaby is trying to cover up the childish toss of his toys outburst. Too late you squeamish little Tosser it's all there for everyone to see.

Stop embarrassing yourself, you're putty between my fingers.




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2024, 15:07
#134
03 Nov 2024, 15:07#134

Yes it was the usual pathetic (sic) need to try ‘get’ somebody. These live commentary threads have been collegial, pushing points of view, but not looking for a spat. I thought (sic) had finally found a way to just be normal.. then that gloating gotcha.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2024, 21:18
#135
03 Nov 2024, 21:18#135

Both teams played Jake-Ball whixh I consider not being top class rugby,   

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Nov 2024, 21:49
#136
03 Nov 2024, 21:49#136

It was an arm wrestle, a  boresnore. England reminded me of the Boks in bygone days.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Nov 2024, 22:05
#137
03 Nov 2024, 22:05#137
"Both teams played Jake-Ball whixh I consider not being top class rugby," - this while the ABs scored 3 tries. 2 of those tries being nicely worked. "It was an arm wrestle, a boresnore. England reminded me of the Boks in bygone days." - this when the finish was nail biting with a potentially winning kick hitting the uprights and a dying minutes scrum on the AB's line. 2x noobish comments from 2x noobs.
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becsPro4,378 posts
03 Nov 2024, 22:09
#138
03 Nov 2024, 22:09#138

It was certainly a backwards step from the summer. 

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
04 Nov 2024, 01:24
#139
04 Nov 2024, 01:24#139
I think England is not far off….a couple of personal changes and some new training Tatics , could change things positively. After all they keeping it close with top teams in the world. Only a matter of time and they switch over to winning.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2024, 01:51
#140
04 Nov 2024, 01:51#140

It was worth watching for a number of things….not least Marcus Smith’s work in creating that brilliant try of the year candidate.

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becsPro4,378 posts
04 Nov 2024, 01:53
#141
04 Nov 2024, 01:53#141

Glad you enjoyed it, Mozart. 

It was disappointing really from an English perspective. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2024, 02:06
#142
04 Nov 2024, 02:06#142

Losing can be habit forming becs….one only has to look at our cricket Proteas. This was a game that warranted keeping the starting front row and half backs on the park until the game was secure. Ford gets much of the blame, but the first crack in the dyke was the scrum giving away a series of penalties.

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becsPro4,378 posts
04 Nov 2024, 02:17
#143
04 Nov 2024, 02:17#143

Absolutely agree. 

I think the blame has to lie with Borthwick and his obsession with substitutes. Why change something that was working ? 


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
04 Nov 2024, 03:39
#144
04 Nov 2024, 03:39#144

I think the blame has to lie with Borthwick and his obsession with substitutes. Why change something that was working ?

Yep. Smith stays on and England beat the All Blacks. I really do believe it's as simple as that for this game. The entire front row being switched didn't help either.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Nov 2024, 07:43
#145
04 Nov 2024, 07:43#145

Borthwick  is suffering a little from Rassie syndrome. 

Only he isn't brining on Ox, Marx, Snyman, Kwagga, Pollard...

England are looking good though. A few defensive lapses aside, they were busy and climbed into the ABs....defending their ball a lot better than what the Boks did when we played them ABs recently.

If that penalty was 15cm to the left we'd all be singing a different tune today.

I believe they're on the up-and-up.

Roos needs to learn from Ben Earl - Choosing his battles and exploding at the right times.

Still crazy to think that a pleb on this site called that match a bore-fest.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Nov 2024, 07:46
#146
04 Nov 2024, 07:46#146
Ben Earl...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Nov 2024, 09:58
#147
04 Nov 2024, 09:58#147

President of nothing

In the two nicely worked tries tEngland Defense went AWOL.   But at least they ended up winning in a match which was boring with repetative BS be te norm.   

ookin g at the match on Satiurday I changed my score forecast for Friday evening from  a 7 poin win by the SB's to a 13 point loss by them aginst the Irish,   

Denny put it vey nicely -  It was an  arm wrestle, a  boresnore. England reminded me of the Boks in bygone days.

That is why I called it Jake-ball - the way he  Springboks played under White, De Villiers, Meyer and Coetzee.    For most of the gme the AB's did the ame things all the time. 

      

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Nov 2024, 10:15
#148
04 Nov 2024, 10:15#148

Being a fair minded neutral ie. wanting both teams to lose, I enjoyed the encounter. 4 good tries, lead changing throughout & the occasional magic & brilliance from an Itoje, Smith or Barrett to savour..................  & thinking thank god we've Pollard.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Nov 2024, 13:11
#149
04 Nov 2024, 13:11#149
Great tense game evidencing how close all the top sides are Moments seperate them - an intercept by England to put them ahead, a missed drop to lose it
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2024, 14:56
#150
04 Nov 2024, 14:56#150

Agreed Dave it was a great game of rugby with villains, drama, heroes and goats…..undecided till the final whistle.

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becsPro4,378 posts
04 Nov 2024, 16:25
#151
04 Nov 2024, 16:25#151

But we still lost  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2024, 16:47
#152
04 Nov 2024, 16:47#152

Reminded me a bit of  Freddie Stewards vertical up and under that got Harrassmiss out of the dog house at the WC. Funny nobody is calling Razor a genius.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
04 Nov 2024, 17:00
#153
04 Nov 2024, 17:00#153
Yes becs it’s not nice loosing. But it’s obvious that Your coach made a major mistake at that stage of the game to sub smith with Ford. Also the defence lapses that happened at crucial stages, was also not good. If Borthwick keeps on breaking the cohesion of the starting team at the wrong moments, it will happen again. He needs to find the right balance when to bring on your Guys Bomb Squad and when to persist with the Starting team. I agree with Pakie on that, it was the most obvious thing that made you guys loose.
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becsPro4,378 posts
04 Nov 2024, 17:18
#154
04 Nov 2024, 17:18#154

Oh I agree. 

It’s still a mixture of players who are finding their feet and some who should be put to pasture though. 

If we don’t win this weekend, it could be a long autumn for us  

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Black & Red Club Pro255 posts
04 Nov 2024, 20:48
#155
04 Nov 2024, 20:48#155

3 Tries to 1 and the AB's still trying everything to lose.

It was never up to England - They were only in the game because of bad errors by NZ.

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