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Another farcical red...

Started by Pakie32 REPLIES2,208 VIEWS· 05 Sept 2021, 14:05
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
05 Sept 2021, 14:05
#1
05 Sept 2021, 14:05#1
...as Jordie Barrett's boot connects with Koroibete's face while fielding a high kick. Purely accidental. World Rugby may as well go the whole hog and declare it illegal for players to go airborne to catch high kicks.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,231 posts
05 Sept 2021, 14:15
#2
05 Sept 2021, 14:15#2

A yellow card for unintentional reckless play would have sufficed. His foot is above his waist, and he does kick outward. 


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Sept 2021, 14:17
#3
05 Sept 2021, 14:17#3

Thank goodness we had the new red card law in effect. If one team loses a player for 60 minutes it's pretty much game over.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
05 Sept 2021, 14:30
#4
05 Sept 2021, 14:30#4

Yep, it's a good law.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Sept 2021, 14:47
#5
05 Sept 2021, 14:47#5

Hey JW are you trying to reform your poor i mage by posing as that rare commodity an honest Kiwi.  

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Sept 2021, 16:37
#6
05 Sept 2021, 16:37#6
Well done Beeno, recognizing honesty is the first step towards achieving it
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Sept 2021, 17:52
#7
05 Sept 2021, 17:52#7

Hehehehe. What a slippery eel you are JW ! Note I said eel!

How come you don't support Rassie's attempt to clean up the game JW.  You speak with forked eel tongue! 


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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Sept 2021, 20:45
#8
05 Sept 2021, 20:45#8

Beeno, please keep your trumpet blowing down below in the dark recesses of "Beeno's Trumpet". In the meantime we all extend our sympathy for the phycological issues that you face. You will over come.... well maybe not overcome but perhaps confront.... well maybe not confront but at least suppress. One must remain optimistic!

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Sept 2021, 23:36
#9
05 Sept 2021, 23:36#9

I see Jordie planted his boot very coolly in that poor guys face.

Had it been a Bok it would have been 6 months suspension.


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Sept 2021, 20:59
#10
06 Sept 2021, 20:59#10

Beeno, no Boks player could get his boot that high

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,231 posts
06 Sept 2021, 22:38
#11
06 Sept 2021, 22:38#11

The All Blacks did win the 2019 karaoke championship with their dancing and high kicks. 



CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Sept 2021, 09:33
#12
07 Sept 2021, 09:33#12

Pakie

Kicking a person in the face at any stage in a game is a red card offence - whether you like it or not..         

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
07 Sept 2021, 11:38
#13
07 Sept 2021, 11:38#13

There's a difference between kicking and accidental connection with an advancing player while you're trying to keep your balance coming down from fielding a high ball.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Sept 2021, 14:51
#14
07 Sept 2021, 14:51#14

Pakie 

Coming down like that is a physical impossibility.    In the past the fielders when catching balls had their knee up and bended  not the leg straight at the face or body of incoming players.    The way Barrett did it was intentional  and has never seen  anybody doing what Barrett did in any game.             

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
07 Sept 2021, 15:46
#15
07 Sept 2021, 15:46#15

You tend not to see a lot of things, Mike.

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
07 Sept 2021, 17:18
#16
07 Sept 2021, 17:18#16

Funny, he didn't think Kolbe had intent when he wiped out that Lion in midair. Certainly didn't think that was worthy of a red. Funny thing, bias. 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Sept 2021, 09:54
#17
08 Sept 2021, 09:54#17

Ou Maaik gets even more egg all over his stupid face as Jordie Barrett's red card is rescinded.

LMAO!

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
08 Sept 2021, 10:00
#18
08 Sept 2021, 10:00#18

See they let him off further sanctions and took red card off his list by saying his boot "inadvertently"arrived in the Wallabies face.
Law 9.11 states that a player must do nothing reckless.
It was reckless....whether he meant it or not. 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Sept 2021, 12:38
#19
08 Sept 2021, 12:38#19

Well, the system worked. Who could possibly disagree

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
09 Sept 2021, 01:27
#20
09 Sept 2021, 01:27#20

The only possible decision that could be made as it was entirely accidental.

The ref and TMO seemed to make that decision in about 20 seconds,  which astounded me given they piss about so much pontificating if a pass was forward or not!!

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Sept 2021, 09:57
#21
09 Sept 2021, 09:57#21
Haha more Kung-fu from Kiwiland. Accidental my ass. If I throw punches in a dark room, when some of them hit people, I can’t claim it’s an accident just because I couldn’t see them. Jump like that, the way Ben Smith taught you to, and know that if your boot hits someone you’re off the park. I dislike bad decisions as much as everyone else. But there’s no room for disguised dirty play in my book. And that’s exactly what this is.
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
09 Sept 2021, 19:47
#22
09 Sept 2021, 19:47#22

that was definitely deliberate by Jordy. There was no reason to lead with the foot as players are protected in the air. 

The same is said of ball carriers using the fore arm against the tackler. Matfield and several other players use to use the fore arm as a defence which is dangerous. 

I'm also glad rucking has been removed from the game, but there are some people that still wants it around. 

He should have gotten at least an 8 weak ban. Made contact to the face with the boot.

Again, just shows you what a circus world rugby has become. 

Further, you don't see this type of jumping happening in Ausie rules and never see player actually kick out their feet untless they want to hurt another player. 

Aussie rule players always jump  with  one knee up but the foot remains next to the knee to protect  players when competing for the ball. 

Rugby needs to wake up an start drawing in some new ideas of how the high ball can be more  contestable

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Sept 2021, 19:59
#23
09 Sept 2021, 19:59#23

plausible deniability.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,231 posts
09 Sept 2021, 20:59
#24
09 Sept 2021, 20:59#24

I think it was an accident, however my understanding is that this law is unequivocal in that if you kick someone in the face while in the air you get penalised. 

If a player makes a high tackle, they get penalised, even if it is by accident.
(Even when someone ducks at the last second causing the high tackle). 

Kicking in the face is an instant red. Although perhaps a yellow could be considered if the ref thought it, was an accident. 

No further action would be taken after the game if it is accepted as an accident. If it were decided to be intentional there would be a ban for a certain amount of time. 

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
09 Sept 2021, 21:34
#25
09 Sept 2021, 21:34#25
Bullshit it was deliberate Kingcorn! You guys only see what you want to see and any chance to jump on the ABs case, you take it with both hands. Clearly Jordie mistimed when he jumped in relation to where he thought the ball was going to be. As a consequence he was falling backwards and threw his leg out instinctively to try to regain his balance. The panel deciding his culpability included representation from your own country and expert witness testimony. So get real and open the other eye you biased twat…..
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Sept 2021, 07:47
#26
10 Sept 2021, 07:47#26
Jumping while running should be banned...it's reckless, just a matter of time before there's a serious injury.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Sept 2021, 08:24
#27
12 Sept 2021, 08:24#27
Moola Quite strange how it’s always Kiwis getting sent off for this, no. I told you all about this Kung-Fu business years ago. I even pointed out a match where Skosan was expecting the kick and actually ducked out of the way of it before he made his tackle. The only time we’re biased is when we call intentional dirty play by your players. Anyway, we expect nothing less.
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
12 Sept 2021, 12:04
#28
12 Sept 2021, 12:04#28
Plum, please enlighten me on exactly who these Kiwis are that are “always getting sent off for this”?? A detailed list please…..
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Sept 2021, 12:45
#29
12 Sept 2021, 12:45#29
Do you watch rugby?
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Sept 2021, 12:49
#30
12 Sept 2021, 12:49#30
Let’s do this, Moola I’ll name a kiwi sent off for this and you name anyone from any other country sent off for the same offence? Deal?
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Sept 2021, 12:49
#31
12 Sept 2021, 12:49#31
Let’s do this, Moola Duplicate
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
12 Sept 2021, 13:11
#32
12 Sept 2021, 13:11#32
No, you said it’s the Kiwis always getting sent off for this, so name all these Kiwis who’ve been sent off for kicking someone in the face while jumping for a high ball big mouth!!
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
13 Sept 2021, 05:57
#33
13 Sept 2021, 05:57#33

Hello Plum??? Are you there??

Has the lead broken in your pencil perhaps?

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