Another joyless win

The Boks are hard to put away…..huge fire power in the scrums, an unstoppable maul, aggressive defense and breakdown accuracy. These aspects have been well coached and we have great talent. As the commentators pointed out either of our front rows could walk into any other international team.

But there is nothing creative about this team, just grinding process. Yes conditions didn’t help…but our play is just a repeat of most of our other games this year.

And we were lucky….the pitch invasion certainly robbed Wales of their best try scoring opportunity.

Another 50/50 game falls into the Bok column.

Problem solving skills, not creativity. Attack is the process of deconstructing defence, that's why we are better at defence than attack: Intelligence, problem solving, this is not South Africa's forte. Tom Brady recently commented on defensive players in the NFL: 

"Have you ever been in some of those defensive meeting rooms? You wonder why they play defense and after about two minutes you go, ‘yep they could never be an offensive player," Brady quipped. "Defense is kinda like a dog chasing a car. Just get the guy with the ball."

It about sums up the totality of the Boks. Yesterday, Frans and Kwagga were the only players who looked to get the ball and offer some kind of movement to manipulate what was in front of him, as well as offer strength. South Africa keeps trying to reduce attack into feeling things like "creativity". There's certainly a creative element to higher thinking, but they've got it pretty much entirely wrong. Then they push forward players who look to have the feely stuff more than others: Willemse for example. "X-factor". Doing random, incoherent things. The popular calls are almost entirely wrong, and at a higher rate than in the past, which leads me to believe that South Africa is dropping very quickly in the capacity of gray matter.

The Boks can be riled up for a few games where they up the intensity. In the first twenty-five minutes they were very disruptive at the breakdown, though it was very scrappy. I don't think we really had true control at any point. I also don't rate our defence highly at all. Where was the containment on the edge? It simply wasn't there. Around the fringes we were very vulnerable. Wales put in a valiant effort, but they got better and the Boks become, again, dominated at the contact point. Wales decided the fight back, and the big bad Boks lost that physical edge. Frans and Etzebeth really upped their game in the second half, which just about gave the Boks some kind of edge. 

In the end, the Welsh would have gained in confidence from this game. They've had a rough time of it and stood up to the Boks. They'll improve, but will we? 

Every time the Springboks won Mozart goes into mourning - so this is nothing new and has been ongoing since Erasmus became coach in  2018.    Never happened  when the dismal Meyer and Coetzee  coached  the  Springboks  - so what else is new.         

Meyer is the better coach by far, and Coetzee was actually better too. 

The Boks didn't even look this painful during the Straeuli years. It's absolutely horrendous. 

The better coach by far (Meyer) was fired by his club for gross incompetence - that says the Kindergarten Imbecile remains an imbecile and learns nothing from the game of rugby.    Meyer lost every chance to win anything in the line of competitive trophies and Erasmus already won the WC, the Rugby Championship and was the coach of the year in 2019 and he is bound to continue and is likely to win the 2023 WC as well.           

22 tests where only NZ could beat the Boks. Two clean sweeps up north and the last great attacking Bok side. He did it with a more limited player pool. He had two sessions with the Boks before the 2012 England series and the loss of a glut of players and still produced a better product than anything Josè and his crutch have ever done in their careers. His work at the Bulls alone served the Boks well for over a decade.

Coetzee's 2017 is still better than the 2018 of Josè and its production eclipses every Josè (I should say Krutch as he does the actual coaching) season to date.

Chew on that Lügnerin. Don't wind your pantaloons too tightly. 

"Meyer is the better coach by far, and Coetzee was actually better too."

Most laughable comment of the year

https://youtu.be/WGau8RBMNG8

Kindergarten Imbecile 

Show me the trophies and key wins - bearing in mind  Meyer also has the worst record of -

*     3 wins in 9 tests  played in the period Novermber 2014 and September 2015;

*      first at home loss to the Pumas in Durban;

*      first ever loss against Japan - the then no 15 rated team in the world.

That disastrous record caused him to be told by SARU not to bother to apply for contract extension  - the contract will NOT be extended.    After that Meyer ended up as coach  of Stade Francais - with a limitless budget to purchase players and he buggered up totally and nearly ruined the club.    Got fired because he was totally incompetent.  and realizing that heis unfit even to coach a school team he is now in a different career field.

Coetzee set a new rfecord for the AB's by letting them beat the Springboks 57 - 0 away and 57 - 15 at  home.   He was because of atrocious results - which included a first time loss against Italy  and was fired by SA Rugby for gross incompetence.   He went to Japan and followed the Meyer example at Stade Francais  and got fired for gross  incompetence too.   

But shitbrain think the two losers are better at coaching than Erasmus and Nienaber.    How that could ever be regarded as logical beats even the worst lunatics in any asylum.        .   

Anti-Bok? No, anti-José. There's the difference. I don't worship this sham of a coaching duo. The most bizarre setup in all the years I've followed the game. No fan of the Boks would ever accept the tripe that has been dished up this season. But you are not a fan. You're a José Plastik. You cannot justify your position with any kind of facts, You, like the other Plastiks here, have been knocked about like ragdolls in every thread. We now have a team whose weapon is kick and get a penalty. Aimless kicking. It doesn't matter where we kick, because the opponent will track it. and knock-it on. Then we maul and hopefully get a stream of penalties to keep them in their half. All these years we heard about standards, how we needed more from the team. Where are those expectations now? The Boks have been exceedingly poor throughout the season, but that doesn't seem to matter. No standards whatsoever. We have unfit fatties who are too unfit to move to meet a pass and keep hold of a ball. God help us if one of our props has to play 60 minutes. Ponderous, going sideways in contact, unable to create any kind of pressure using the ball. Tell me that this kick for a knock-on is sustainable. If you believe it is, you are kidding yourselves. The Boks were blown away in the RC, and their pack reduced to rubble by the Lions, and now a patchwork Welsh side have stood toe-to-toe with us and actually played the better rugby, if you give this a pass, you are no fan. You are a shameful fraud. The José era is an embarrassment. 

I cant justify my position says the lunatic. ell of course I can - We are the world champions. Have just beaten the wee abs and are currently ranked number 1 in the world.

Rassie World coach of the year, Du Toit Player of the year. Boks team of the year.

If that is not success what is you crazy loon.

I know we will not always be number one but you cannot ignore the record achieved.

What a buffoon ou orgie is! 

This fake Bok supporter finds no joy in the win against Wales.

His anti Rassie rage has killed any objectivity he may ever have had.  The coach is no good, the team is no good. Listen to me the all knowing org of the one eye! Bwahahahahahahahahaha

Nkosi sure was loafing this match.

5 wins against top 5 opposition in about 36 tests now. Bottom of every statistical category for the RC aside from the lineout; their scrum was 3rd. I rest my case. 

Let’s quote the more current statistics.

1 Third out of four in the Rugby Cup.

2 Victory over Wales by 5 …when the ABs crushed them by 38 points. And it was an even worse Welsh team!

We are playing the ugliest rugby in the history of the Boks. Ten years ago we were thrilled with the exploits of the likes of Habana and Jean. Now we are left with Kolbe living off scraps. And when he isn’t playing the most exciting thing is Frans off the bench.

Never has so much ball been wasted by so few attacking attempts.

Oh Dear the Boks area terrible side but ranked number one in the world. Last time we met the wee abs we won.

Dave dont talk about advanced subjects like the weather to these guys its way way beyond them.

Face facts what is driving all this drivel. Nozes are badly out of joint. Winning the RC shouldn't have happened. Winning the RWC shouldn't have happened. Beating the wee abs shouldn't have happened , beating the welsh after some years shouldn't have happened. Boooo hooo hooo.  Every Bok win is like another knife going on. 

The remedy? Just admit the obvious that Rassie did very well and say you are very sorry for being such complete "plastics", overcome by prejudice and malice towards Rassie. Heck these two duffers even were against the Rassie video showing Berry cheating. How much worse can it get!

See above….Marx offside.

Then there was the Kriel non yellow.

Coming from the same person who said Am was not offside when he turned around to receive a pass from Damian. Unter clearly wouldn't know offside if Frans kicked a ball from inside his half to Mapimpi waiting inside the 22! 

A joyless win?

Is a joyful loss better???

Net so Basjan...

For these duffers any lose by the Boks certainly wont be joyless. That much is clea r.

Who are you to lecture me Unter? You called Meyer's wins with outstanding comprehensive rugby "moral losses". You are no Bok fan, you aren't even South African. You're a turncoat Pom masquerading as a South African Plastik. Know your place. Ende.

Nope the distinction is between those who are ecstatic if the Boks win  any old way….even playing ugly rugby.

And those of us who assume with our talent beating the likes of Wales is a given and want to see our players expressing themselves and being creative…so we can add to our weapons for tougher challenges like the rejuvenated Wallabies.

Those who eat what they are fed are incensed that smarter people don’t buy into that philosophy. In short it’s a debate between the discerning fan and the dumb fan.

And I mean that very sincerely.

Good luck getting rugby noobs like O&O to understand the impact of conditions like rain on a game of rugby. 

If you've never played a game of rugby in your life then you're hardly going to know the difference between wet or muddy conditions and dry or sunny conditions and you'll probably make stupid statements like O&O always do.

Dave - stop worrying about what Mozart and the Kindergarten Imbecile writes on site

Their whole story is about pet hatred of  and prejudice against Erasmus, Nienaber and a list of players they constantly lie about.

I think it is in fact better to ignore their BS - imagine the two stooges believe that the two greatest coach failures in Springbok history - Meyer and  Coetzee - were better coaches than Er asmus and Nienaber.   

They claim the Springboks play clueless rugby - yet the abortion of rugby coached by Meyer and Coetzee destroyed SA Rugby in the period 2012 to 2017.   

Thanks Rooinek - I corrected the typing error.   

It  was always going to be  a difficult game. The Welsh has a mental  strangle  hold on the boks. The rain was heavy and  don't think we were in control  in the first 60 min. 

Jantjies was really poor and  so was Pollard. Nice to see a break from Damian  but  nothing  else. Frans Steyn to me was the huge difference. Showed how to play in the wet and that you  can run and pass the ball. 

a 35 year old  Frans is  still  better than  Damian, what on earth is he doing in the boks squad. All he had was his stupid jump and trying  to step. 

Where  as Frans use some nice running lines, showed a  good dummy  and  then cut inside. Wasn't afraid to take it up and get over the advantage line. 

Kicking was top drawer. In  a way I'm  glad Willemse left  early. Not a nice  way to see a player leave the field but he just ads  no value. 

Frans at 19 was winning trophies and changing games on its head. Be it those long  ranges, or sideline 50 meter  drop  goals or just  breaking the line. 

We  have good other Full Backs, Tyrone Green is the one to watch. Clocked nearly 147 meters this weekend, again. 

Gelant has found some form and then we also have  Fassi who is the real deal. Not this chicken shit stepper. 

Kindergarten Imbecile 

Meyer and comprehensive rugby?    The drivel played by the Springboks under Meyer and Coetzee  can never be called comprehensive rugby.   But then to justify the aimless kicking of Morne and the near to destruction of  Pollard by Meyer - one has to bare in mind that Mozart wrote during the Meyer era that 90% of the role of flyhalfs is to kick balls.    

But then Morne had one outstanding distinction - he virtually never attacked the gain line himself and was known for piss-poor hospital passes to the inside center - who was already under pressure from at least three  of the defenders by the time  he received the balls.   Defenders just ignored Morne - and covered the poor recipient of the balls  passed by Morne.        

Anybody believing that passing the ball about 80% of the time to players other than the flyhalf is a pivot for comprehensive rugby.    Meyer was the one who himself said Springboks do not have the ball skills to play a ball-in-hand game - so how is comprehensive rugby played without involvement of the backline?.        

I didn't mention the typing error ou Maaik, I was remarking on the stinking hypocrisy of you telling other people to ignore O&O when you are incapable of doing so after all your vows and promises.

Get it now, stupid?

So it was the rain….ok….what about the 3 Lions tests, the 2 Australian tests and the first NZ test (in the second test we actually tried to play rugby).

Given any contest we can win with our pack and we will revert to the box kick.

So harping on the games  where the Springboks  lost - not a word about the tests they won.    You really are a simpleton of note and a drama queen as well.