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Any news on the next Bok coach?

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Jan 2016, 15:56
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03 Jan 2016, 15:56#1
Like who is being mentioned (a part from Coetzee) and what date we will find out?
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Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
03 Jan 2016, 16:10
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03 Jan 2016, 16:10#2
 The SA Rugby Union is still busy teaching some ANC monkeys to stand up straight and walk on their hind legs and once they have perfected those skills they will name one of them as the next coach.
April the 1st would be my guess for the formal announcement.
Peanuts to all and enjoy the rugby season ahead.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,279 posts
03 Jan 2016, 16:30
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03 Jan 2016, 16:30#3
Coetzee is a shoe in. He has the best rate of transformation of any SuperXV coach. Like most SA coaches he has no understanding of backline play- but the Stormers had some good years under his reign.  The Rassie factor and a good squad help- as did Neinaber for Defence. 
Not sure a foreign coach would take the job because of the forced quotas. Meyer said he resigned because of the forced quotas- or at least, this was reported in the media 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jan 2016, 18:10
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03 Jan 2016, 18:10#4
They will have to announce the coach this month - a delay would be suicidal since the coach will have to study the Super Series games to come up with some sort of a team in June.   
I did not read anything to the effect that Meyer said he resigned because of the quota situation - so where did that statement come from.
Coetzee is more or less the worst coach they can appoint.  He was the downfall of Stormers rugby because he did not play the proper backline - his midgets in the backline included the Western Force reject Leyds and the useless Juan de Jongh, both selected for BEE purposes even though they were useless players.   
Do we need a politico as a coach?   Maybe it will be a good thing if he is appointed - his record will be as bad or worse than Meyer was over the last 18 months, so he would not last for longer than that period.   
     
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jan 2016, 19:00
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03 Jan 2016, 19:00#5
I'd pick a coach who can get the Tractor to inject some pace....run onto the ball, rather than these 10 kph, Range Rover in low gear, innocuous runs. Better yet I would support a coach who can find a decent center pairing. Kriel is simply not physical enough and poor old Allende has one try against the  Eagles in 14 tests. These chaps are not the answer. 
But do we have any internationally capable centers? I fear not...nor do we have any wings once Habana and JP exit the stage.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Jan 2016, 19:15
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03 Jan 2016, 19:15#6
Kriel I would say is in threat of becoming a jack of all trades master of none, keep him at fullback from now on. De Allende is fantastic and there's no point in us debating over him because neither of us will budge! But the wings I am a bit worried over, maybe move Willie to wing and use Kriel at fullback as Le Roux didn't have as good a year attacking as the previous and isn't the best last line of defence. Senatla will have to prove himself this year, but he's dedicated 2016 to the 7's, so we'll have to see him in the 2017 Super Rugby competition. Vorster also has an opportunity to take the 13 spot, but like everyone else it appears that he's another 12 that can sort of play 13.
There's been no word from Habana on retiring yet and JP will be available still it seems, time for Ulengo and company to earn their way into the Boks. 
Jaco Kriel needs to be given a chance in the Boks, simple. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,279 posts
03 Jan 2016, 20:09
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03 Jan 2016, 20:09#7
@Clevermike this was the article. 
Transformation imperatives forced Meyer’s handby Gavin Rich 04 December 2015, 15:33

South African Rugby Union president Oregan Hoskins has left little doubt that it was the transformation imperatives of his organisation that prompted Heyneke Meyer to change his mind about being part of the solution to the problems faced by the Springbok squad he coached at the World Cup.

Speaking at a media briefing at the Saru headquarters just outside Cape Town at lunch time on Friday, Hoskins made it clear that Meyer had not been meeting the requirements and that after discussions between the parties, it had become apparent that there would be no way forward for them.

“The upper leadership met with Heyneke a few weeks ago and it was a very fruitful discussion,” said Hoskins.

“But after those talks, the decision (made by Meyer to resign) did not come as a surprise. We discussed a number of issues, one of them being our transformation imperatives. We had an open and frank discussion on that issue because, for me, it was an important issue.

“In the next four years in the buildup to the next World Cup, transformation will be key for this organisation, and it’s something we’re discussing all the time. We have a duty to meet the transformation imperatives that we have signed off for with the Sports Ministry and that we’ve agreed to.

“From a Saru perspective, we have to be pretty emphatic about the importance of transformation, and we were in the meeting with Heyneke. Heyneke understood that, and he knew what the transformation imperatives were.”

Saru has committed to an agreement that will aim to ensure the rate of transformation is accelerated so that the Springbok team can be made up of an equal representation of white and black players in 2019.

Hoskins said that his job would be on the line if the objectives aren’t met, but stressed that the various provincial and franchise presidents had to play ball too.

“Jake White said it, Peter de Villiers said it, and now Heyneke has also said it – there just aren’t enough black players getting an opportunity in Super Rugby that we can select from and that player pool really needs to be increased now as this is our last chance. We have reached the glass ceiling and we need now to push through that ceiling,” he said.

“If we don’t get it right there will be calls for me to walk the plank, and I will do that, but then I would expect the provincial presidents to be right behind me as the transformation process really needs to be sped up at our bigger provinces, particularly at franchise level.”

Hoskins made it plain that any coach applying for the Springbok job would have to accept the Saru transformation objectives.

“Transformation is a dynamic thing and whoever applies for the job must know it has to be top of his agenda,” said Hoskins.

“As an organisation we have to be harder than we’ve ever been before and lay a huge emphasis on that. We’ve signed an agreement, we believe in it and we have to go forward with that in mind. If anyone wants to be coach, they have to understand that transformation is going to be a big part of the job.”

However it appears that winning will also remain a top objective, with Hoskins admitting that the failure to win the World Cup was also a blot on Meyer’s copy book that helped hasten his departure from the position he has held for the last four years.

“We’re South African and we believe that anything less than winning the World Cup amounts to failure,” he said.

Once the new man is in place, and you can bet your house on the new coach being Allister Coetzee even if Hoskins denied any decision had been made on the replacement for Meyer, he will start off without the threat of any interference in his selections from Saru.

“When Peter de Villiers became Bok coach we adopted a policy of non-interference in team selection. We did not try and interfere with Heyneke Meyer. We adopted the line that once we appoint the coach we trust him to do what is best for the team and the organisation,” said Hoskins.

“That is the situation as it stands at the moment. There will be no interference in selections. However, should we face a problematic situation that policy can be reviewed, but we will cross that bridge if we come to it.”

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Jan 2016, 20:42
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03 Jan 2016, 20:42#8
There has been interference in the selection of the side for some years not so another lie by Hoskins.This is a pear ler - “We’re South African and we believe that anything less than winning the World Cup amounts to failure,” he said. Bwahahahahahhahahahaha so we are going to achieve this by selecting a side based on race rather than merit. Our cricket is also going to pot. Everything the hapless anc interfers with goes down hill.

Take an interest in tennis and golf oaks
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2016, 22:19
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03 Jan 2016, 22:19#9
I think the delay has been because Coetzee has been decided against and they have given a couple of possibly unexpected candidates the December hols to mull over an offer I really hope the Wayne Smith thing pans out. Wayne Smith with Akkerman and De Bruin assisting. In my dream world that'd be perfect
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
04 Jan 2016, 01:25
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04 Jan 2016, 01:25#10
 The ANC Puppet (Hoskins) has spoken.
If he or the ANC thinks by selecting anyone but the best will win SA the World Cup they are dreaming.
I have stated over and over that if 15 players of colour were selected on merit to represent SA on the rugby field I and most if not all rugby fans would support them 100%.
I am not supportive of politics in sport and was disappointed when SA barred Basil D from coming as an English player to play against SA on the cricket field.
Politics and sport do not go together and should never be supported by the voters.If they want transformation in sport why don't they enforce it on the soccer field.....
Just check what politics is doing to our cricket for example.
Disgraceful.

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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
04 Jan 2016, 02:45
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04 Jan 2016, 02:45#11

Spot on Athur John.


We do not need any transformation - just get the racists out of SARU. Hoskins will be a good start.


Try and promote the game as far as possible with special emphasis on school teams.

Invite promising black players to join a Rugby Academy.


Enforced transformation boils down to BEE - i.e legalise theft. 

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