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AreEngland the side to beat at the RWC

Started by Beeno112 REPLIES254 VIEWS· 06 Dec 2014, 08:29
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Dec 2014, 08:29
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06 Dec 2014, 08:29#1

We have the wee abs unable to cope with the power of the Englash pack highlighted by the penalty try. This is not even the best english pack. England still have some backs to come back as well.

The only side that could beat a full strength Poms team is the Boks. However meyer has lost the plot badly thsi year and its anybodies guess now what will happen next year.

OZ have a great backline but pack and scrum needs sorting. Neither Wales nor Irleand are too much to worry about.

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Ian Ritchie, the head of the Rugby Football Union (RFU), says England's results over the last five months have not been good enough but remains confident that they are on course for a credible assault on the World Cup in 2015.

"We should be in a position where we go into every game expecting to win and if we lose five in a row, even if it's to New Zealand and South Africa, that's not satisfactory," Ritchie told reporters at a Twickenham briefing on Thursday, five days after Stuart Lancaster's team ended their November series on a high with victory over Australia having ended their losing streak against Samoa.

"It's good to get a couple of wins but we are extremely committed to making sure that we go into all games expecting to win them.

"We have a committed bunch of players and coaches and people at the RFU doing everything we can to support them towards their objectives.

"Sometimes it doesn't work on the pitch, but that's sport."

Three years into his job as CEO, Ritchie said that, despite four defeats at the hands of the All Blacks and an 11th defeat in 12 games against South Africa, he felt England were edging closer to the sport's top two.

"It's not an accident when you lose four out of four but we were highly competitive for large parts of those games against New Zealand," he said.

"There is no doubt in my mind that the margin is pretty small. The thing over the next nine months is to make sure that margin diminishes and you catch up.(Agreed)

"It's not some yawning chasm of difference. It's something very marginal and something we can deal with and that's the view of the coaching team.

"But this idea of this being a development phase, that we are a learning team – no. We need to beat those sort of teams.

"I think next year we will be stronger – the time that the squad have to train, the availability of players... I absolutely believe fervently that we are in a good position for next season and the World Cup.

"I think we have the talent and ability resources and commitment to back up the team and nothing in the autumn has changed my opinion."

England have every right to be upbeat. the wee abs are too pap and the Boks in disarray. 
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polyboyClub Pro601 posts
13 Dec 2014, 01:24
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13 Dec 2014, 01:24#2

No.

 

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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
13 Dec 2014, 03:02
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13 Dec 2014, 03:02#3
England the team to beat after losing to both New Zealand and South Africa at home. Obviously like every world cup, the All Blacks are the team to beat.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Dec 2014, 10:43
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13 Dec 2014, 10:43#4
 ag please ou deddy. the wee abs burgalled the last RWC in a shamless manner!! They won the first RWC but thats it.
Engalnd are a young side on the up. The wee abs are on the skids and should have lost once to Oz twice to Boks and three times against Engalnd B this year alone
Beeno adding some much need perspective.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
13 Dec 2014, 11:32
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13 Dec 2014, 11:32#5

 ....Bean Brain looking at the likely scenarios...


Quarter finalists chosen from Pool A and B play each other i.e two top teams in Pools A and B resulting in..


England to play SA and

Samoa to play Australia in the quarters...


Semi finalists from that England and Samoa or

                    England and Australia


Winner playing NZ in the final correct me if I'm wrong...

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Dec 2014, 13:24
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13 Dec 2014, 13:24#6
 Samoa! HahahahahahahaLook I dont know the permatations and we saw in any event whatr bent reffing can do Brycy in the last RWC re any permutations
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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
13 Dec 2014, 17:32
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13 Dec 2014, 17:32#7
 The problem is Beeno that it's all well and good saying that the ABs shouldn't have won  a few of their previous matches but at the end of the day they did win them. That's what makes them so dangerous, they know how to get wins even when they're not playing at their best.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Dec 2014, 17:42
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13 Dec 2014, 17:42#8
 Nonsense the refs won those games for them. They keep getting wrong calls favouring them. Its endemic!

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Dec 2014, 19:21
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13 Dec 2014, 19:21#9
 Beenz, like it or not NZ is always the team to beat, and in a RWC the Boks and Ozz as well.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Dec 2014, 19:39
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13 Dec 2014, 19:39#10
Well if you think nz have only won one RWC since it all started they are not really much of a force come RWC time.
Their forwards are too pap to win a NH RWC. Heck they had to burgal a home win and they have gone backwards since then.
Oz must sort out their scrum and find a decent lock.england lood the side to beat. If Meyer gets it together we also could win it.
Beeno keeping it real.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Dec 2014, 21:43
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13 Dec 2014, 21:43#11
 Beenz, how many times have England beaten one of the SH top 3 since the last WC. IMO, Ireland and Wales have a better chance.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,288 posts
13 Dec 2014, 22:11
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13 Dec 2014, 22:11#12
All Blacks are favourites given that the Boks and Australia lost twice on the EOYT. 
Australia probably do not have the tight five for the NH.The boks do not "currently" have the breakdown skills for the NH.
Ireland have the best tactical kicking game with a good scrumhalf/fly-half combination.England may have the most physical pack, and are one of the teams most effected by injuries. They are probably the team that can improve the most when more 1st choice players and combinations are available. 
Wales have the best midfield, but with Sunny Bill back in this may change. France have just fallen apart and do not seem to be a threat. Scotland has remained poor. 
The All Blacks could get out muscled by teams like England and South Africa, and the tight games are going to be their biggest challenge.




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becsPro4,378 posts
13 Dec 2014, 22:35
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13 Dec 2014, 22:35#13
It's bizarre that Beeno has more faith in my team than I do    
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