Attention Moffie . . .

We could debate, argue, discuss all these issues at hand

The reality is, nobody here, or anywhere else in the world, can prove any one theory beyond any reasonable doubt.

One can copy and paste and post any current known scientific fact to prove their theory, but as I have said many times before, even scientists are proven wrong all the time, even these days. Science will not prove what we have now.

I have also said before that we could all be having a very long dream, not knowing what the true reality is.

I have also said before that I don't believe in heaven or hell..... too many good people have had too many terrible things happen to them or their loved ones to make me believe that doing good will take you to heaven.  Tell that to the father who lost his 5 year old daughter to some rapist who sodomised his daughter, cut her up and then burnt her body.  It just makes no sense to me that a just god would allow that to happen to good "Christian" people, or his "believers"

Here's another theory to throw in the mix..... If you are a good person throughout your "life" here on earth, or whilst you are living in your "simulation"..... you get another go at it when you expire, but..... when you get your second turn, you are blessed with a more successful and happy life than you previously had.... but if you are that rapist I mentioned earlier, you come back as that unfortunately individual who suffers for most of their life.

Is that not what is meant by "You will be rewarded for living your life whilst being a good decent person". 

I don't know what I believe, there are too many unanswered questions.... but I do believe that we will not, and cannot, even conceive what we are currently experiencing now on a daily basis, nor what we will encounter when we expire.

Plum

Quite simply, it is mind blowing what we don't know, and probably never will.

If we really..... really.... knew what the truth was out there or after death, it would probably create pandemonium in the current world..... riots, mass suicides, world wars....

Imagine if all the people now, knew beyond any doubt at all, that there was a guaranteed better life after this when you die..... absolutely guaranteed, no question........ how many would kill themselves right now.. today.

How many would just go absolutely crazy knowing they were heading to a known and proven paradise after death?.

How many people would do absolutely terrible things to other people and other nations, knowing without a shadow of any doubt, that they had a better life waiting for them when they "cross over"

Would anyone, on what we currently know as earth, want to stay behind here on earth, with all our famine, droughts, crime, diseases, natural disasters etc etc, if they knew for a 200% fact and certainty..... that something better was currently waiting for them this very moment. 

Is that not why we will never know what will happen after we expire...... is this not a way of protecting the human race from itself?

All intriguing questions

Yes, one of those threads...angerrrrrrr...!!!

Oupa Maaik must be at least 85+ by now ? He was already ou Maaik more than 20 years ago now ?

We're actually not sure ou Maaik is still alive. His posts sound more like something being channeled from another realm.

I pray for these foolish atheists and urge them to repent their sins before they find out that there is an afterlife and their afterlife will be in the fires of hell.

Jesus said I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.

He offers the light of life, how foolish do you have to be not to accept the offer of Jesus who died for our sins and is the way to Heaven?

Dominee Dan huh?.....Bwhahahahaha another one, ag sjampies. This is turning into a happy clapper outpost.

Bless you Sharkbok.

The cowardly atheists are in a very bad place. I have repeatedly asked these wacked out loons how a universe can create itself out of nothing. Or how come a strand of DNA contains the equivalent of 350 volumes of the encyclopedia Brittanica. Deathly silence from the foolish atheists. They know when they are beat. 

To the horror of many in the scientific community Science has proved the existence of God. "The Heavens declare HIS GLORY."

The poor atheists have slumped to abject defeat. Their numbers are crumbling as they abort their children while the Church, growing rapidly, has reached 2.4 billion. 

Isn't it times these foolish loons admitted the truth that they have been desperately wrong. 

Right now even as they are bending to the grave they bluster on towards a Christless eternity.

It's horrifuc to see it but only they can seek God, repent and believe.

I once stood in the shoes of the unbeliever. Oh amazing grace that SAVED a wretch like me. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.

How terrible to see this blindness in the atheist. Will these foolish atheists ever come to Christ and be saved. Time will tell. How much time any of them have only God knows.

Keep up the great work Dominee Dan! 

"To the horror of many in the scientific community Science has proved the existence of God"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……. yeah ok

Did these scientists also get a selfie...... as well as a detailed interview with God?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

What a crock of shyte

"Or how come a strand of DNA contains the equivalent of 350 volumes of the encyclopedia Brittanica"

Possibly the same reason why there are trillions and trillions of sand particles all over the beaches...….. all over the world...… evolution over millions and millions of years.

Possibly the same reason why we have over 300 billion stars in our galaxy...…… evolution over millions and millions of years

Possibly the same reason why a chartered accountant can get financial accounting degrees, but also be incredibly fucking dumb...………..evolution of a few months

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Dominee Dan huh?.....Bwhahahahaha another one, ag sjampies. This is turning into a happy clapper outpost.

If you guys can't see that this guy is trolling big time, I really don't know. He is dripping with sarcasm and probably not even a Christian at all.

Last time I looked, it wasn't only us atheists that claim that the universe was created out of nothing. What exactly did God create the universe out of ?

It's impossible to disprove the fantastical people. Either you believe it or you don't. Prove to me that tooth fairies don't exist. The simple fact that nobody has seen one or that not a speck of evidence exists proving their existence is apparently insufficient proof (per Christians) .

I don't think there's anything "fantastical " about "God"...we just think so because we don't have all the facts or can't understand the "science" behind it.

This "Bearded Old Man on a Cloud " idea is BS....as is "Order from Chaos" . The truth is somewhere in the middle. 

Agreed, too much we don't understand and don't know.  I'm stuck on the "Order from Chaos " thing....and the thermodynamics thingies...but for every law there's an exception...

At the end of the day, there is simply too many variables...like personal experiences...subjective, but admissible in context...life is too complicated to believe that we know it all...it remains a journey...travel well padawan 

@Seagull I will pray for you to embrace your wife's beliefs as Jesus embraces you.

Could you pray for me as well please DD ?

DADumbass/perv you clearly don't have any clue about the implication of information being found in the DNA. Information implies mind you moronic oaf!

The former world leading atheist and scientist, Antony Flu, said he came to believe there was a God because the information in the DNA led him to God. 

You are a profound fool DAdumbass/perv. Time you woke up to Reality.

I note also, you cowardly twit, that you still can't explain how a universe created itself out of nothing. How many times have you ducked the challenge! 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Have you any idea what a fool you are making of yourself you hopeless twit!

While you are about everyone knows you can't have an infinite regression. Whoever called the universe into being had to be eternal. You explain why you, in your profound ignorance, can show that one can. have an infinite regression. Give it a go dumbass. 

If you can't best you zip it and save yourself yet more embarrassment. 

Hahahahahaha poor DADumbass/perv. I see Sky Australia says Folau has a achieved a victory for free speech. Right on and narrow minded bigots/fascists like you hate that don't you. Too bad DA just suck it up! 

You are beyond prayer Rooi 

"The former world leading atheist and scientist, Antony Flu, said he came to believe there was a God because the information in the DNA led him to God." 

LMFAO..... ok...… wow...… I am converted now Beeno...…. because this random guy says that DNA led him to God......Sheeesh man.... what a profound moment in my life...….. you have made me see the light...…

Hallelujah Antony Flu......

Tell me Beeno, since you keep talking and preaching to everyone on this forum about DNA and the universe...…. I have a question for you

How were the pyamids made?

You know...... the 2.5 million blocks of individual rocks that make up each pyramid and each rock is between 2 to 16 tons in weight...… with some pieces weighing 100 tons, that were put in places within the pyramids, and hoisted up to incredible heights...….oh...…..and each piece of rock had to be transported from over 700km away.

All this was done without the wheel even being invented yet...….. oh...… and the rocks were placed with such precision, that scientists would battle with today's technology to replicate the same thing...…..

Did I also mention the absolute precise holes which were drilled through some of these 100 ton limestone rocks...……

Or how about how they were lined up so accurately, to the stars in Orion's belt, which was only discovered thousands of years after the pyramids were constructed.....

Tell me Beeno…….. let's solve this relatively new and recent construction of something before you start trying to preach to me and everyone else about how you believe DNA and the universe was created  

The floor is yours...……… have a go

God moves in a mysterious way
His wonders to perform;
He plants His footsteps in the sea
And rides upon the storm.

Deep in unfathomable mines
Of never failing skill
He treasures up His bright designs
And works His sov’reign will.

Ye fearful saints, fresh courage take;
The clouds ye so much dread
Are big with mercy and shall break
In blessings on your head.

Judge not the Lord by feeble sense,
But trust Him for His grace;
Behind a frowning providence
He hides a smiling face.

His purposes will ripen fast,
Unfolding every hour;
The bud may have a bitter taste,
But sweet will be the flow’r.

Blind unbelief is sure to err
And scan His work in vain;
God is His own interpreter,
And He will make it plain.

Words...… just words