based on sevens: Senalta

Obviously their is a difference between sevens at 15 man rugby. You dont get the same space and time. But this Senalta kid is raw talent. If he has a solid super rugby. He could potentially over take Habana. Who imo is past his best.

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I have notd that Habana is not performing on the same level as he did in the past and share your opinion in the relevant regard.   Howwevr - in his last two appearances for Toulon - Habana was outstanding and I doubt very much whether he will be replaced by Meyer.   I would rather play Senatala on the other wing  - where we really have a serious problem.  

 Glad to hear Habana playing well. Yes lets hope Senatla can make a big success in the 15 man code Mike.I felt compelled to give 3 IQ's post an "I like" - a rare mom ent of course. Habana may be past his best but is still a very good wing.

 I think it might be time to try Habana at 13 again. It's where he started off his senior career and the other 13's aren't actually scream confidence.  Worth a try at least.

 Habana at 13  would be a real gamble - he was not good enough when he did play at 13 and was moved to wing as a result.   

 Habana initially made his name at 13 and was included in the Bok squad as a 13, for the first time,  by Jake White but Jake decided to try him on the wing in his début test and it worked out perfectly.



That ray of light at the end of the contest, though, couldn't hide the fact that it was by far South Africa's worst test performance of 2004. Newcomer of the year: Bryan Habana Bryan Habana began the season starring for the South African under-21 team at the World Cup. Although they were well beaten 49-27 by eventual winners New Zealand in pool play - the Kiwis would go on to crush Ireland 49-17 in the final - Habana showed his pace with a hat-trick of tries as NZ outscored SA seven tries to five. Habana didn't play in the Super 12, but later in the season, when he cracked the nod for the Lions' Currie Cup team, he excelled, crossing the tryline 10 times and showing a devastating burst of speed that left defenders floundering in his wake. The champions, the Blue Bulls, liked what they saw of him in the Currie Cup and moved to sign him for the 2005 season, where the potential of his pairing with Ettienne Botha is huge. Springbok coach Jake White recognised something special in Habana and pulled him into his Tri-Nations squad, where the versatile backline speedster had a chance to reap the benefits of the Springbok experience. He wasn't a first choice option on the Boks' end-of-season tour, but when he came on as a substitute against England he scored with his first touch of the ball. Against Scotland the following week he touched down twice.
Read more: http://www.southafrica.info/about/sport/features/sarugby-2004.htm#.VI6hi3tIS9c#ixzz3LxH3Telg

The Bulls initially signed him to partner Ettiene Botha. Botha was playing 12 and Habana was going to be his partner at 13 from 2005. Jake then played him at 11 on the 2004 EOYT and when he reported at the Bulls in 2005, they kept him at 11.

 IMO he still have more skill and speed than any other stand in 13 AND he played there for the Stormers not too long ago...AND did not do badly in a Stormers outfit where backs saw little ball AND their defence held...I'm not saying he's the answer, we tried JP, Jan and JJ there, why not habana. Bit easier to replace a wing in any event.

 No Draad, I remember him playing there (once?) for the Bokke & it was a disaster .

 ??? When?

 I dont mind him trying it but first at Toulon. Its a pity he is not back in South Africa so we can test him in the Super comp and see how it goes.Another thing Van wyk is listed as a centre come wing. I would like to see him at center. Werner Kok appears to punch well above his weight. Very good runner with the ball as is Kwagga.
So many possibilities - add in Howard and Hanekom. However so little has been tried and sorted out. Total lack of imagination.  We end up with the esteemed Dr Moz stuck in a time warp! 

 I've forgotten....... tend to lose em bad memories chop-chop . Hopefully oom Vlag will come to the rescue .

First tell ou cerudunce which version you want. The bad Habana or the good Habana. Windpomp will be able to give you whatever version you want! bwahahahahhahahaLook oaks we have seen wee Ben Smith at outside center, wing and fullback. 
Its time we got creative. We simply do not use our resources well.
Bob never mind you are probably imagining it. However, I suspect if Habana had a bad day at center it related to defence. He was quite a lightie when he started off. He now is a respectable 94kg according to Wiki and I seem to recall seeing him at 96 kg.
Like the idea of trying him  at 13.
Ou Biltong Bek is very conventional and  will have a mild stroke at such a revolutionary suggestion! He spends too much time with those roaring halfwits Hahhahahahahahahaha

 

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blobbok

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December 15, 2014, 12:17:14  No Draad, I remember him playing there (once?) for the Bokke & it was a disaster .

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DbDraad

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December 15, 2014, 12:18:42  ??? When?

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Twakkies played him at 13 once and it wasn't a major success.

 
One for Dr Moz

 Isee ou windpomp is getting quite cunning wasnt a major success he says. Neither a failure nor really a sucess. Takes your pick Draad!

 There you go, Draad. It was Jake White who actually gave him a game at 13 against Ireland in 2006. We lost the game. That was the game where Paul Honiss screwed us. It was also Frans Steyn's début game.

Result Ireland won by a margin of 17 points   Ground name Lansdowne Road, Dublin Attendance 43000   Referee PG Honiss (New Zealand)   Ireland Test debuts P Wallace South Africa Test debuts BA Fortuin, JC Pretorius, FPL Steyn
Ireland (22) 32 - 15 (3) South Africa (FT)
South Africa tour - Lansdowne Road, 11 November 2006, 17:00 local, 17:00 GMT

15     FB     Bevin Fortuin       
14     W     Jaco Pretorius       
13     C     Bryan Habana       
12     C     Jean de Villiers       
11     W     Frans Steyn       
10     FH     Andre Pretorius       
9     SH     Ricky Januarie       
1     P     Lawrence Sephaka       
2     H     John Smit (c)       
3     P     CJ van der Linde       
4     L     Johan Ackermann       
5     L     Albert van den Berg       
6     F     Danie Rossouw       
7     F     Juan Smith       
8     N8     Pierre Spies       
            Replacements
16     Chiliboy Ralepelle       
17     BJ Botha       
18     Johann Muller       
19     Jacques Cronje       
20     Ruan Pienaar       
21     Wynand Olivier       
22     JP Pietersen   

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December 15, 2014, 12:42:24  Isee ou windpomp is getting quite cunning wasnt a major success he says. Neither a failure nor really a sucess. Takes your pick Draad!

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It was tongue in cheek, poepol. Draad would have noticed. You..... obviously not.

 Have to agree with Beeno here - Habana's defense will be a problem at 13.      

 Aag kak Saffex, he did well there for the Stormers in a few games in 2013. Give it a try at least I say. He can't be worse than JJ, much better reader of the game.
Oops corrected, me no time traveller! 

Bullshit he was crap at 13, a complete flop  

 No more flop than JJ.