BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Feb 2015, 17:03#2
Snapster some sense from you at last. Anybody think any pack in the wolrd could stand up to this. This pack would literally terrorise the wee abs for one!
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Mar 2015, 01:03#5
Actually the ABs would study them, find their weak spots at the breakdown and in the front row and take them apart. Dumb muscle never solved anything.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Mar 2015, 01:46#6
Mozart
Who is the dumb muscle you refer to? Just give us alternatives as well. Talking of the breakdown, who is the most ineffective players at the breakdown in your book? Start with the present Springboks as well.
01 Mar 2015, 06:45#7
NZ clearly have a better tight five then the boks. Winning percentage backs it up. We got Retullick the best tight forward in the world.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Mar 2015, 10:38#8
3ku1
Sorry to disappoint you - but the NZ Tight 5 is crap. Retallick on loose play looks good - in tight 5 play he is worth near to zero. Your props are generally crap and your hooker is a joke. I rate Whitelock higher than Retallick in Tight 5 play and he is definitely not anywhere near the top 3 in the world.
By the way I rate Matfield on par with Retallick - and that says a lot. Both are equally useless in Tight 5 play.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Mar 2015, 17:59#9
That pack would bully an AB pack?
Beat us at the breakdown - what with Richie as the openside?
Let me guess Moz you would prefer useless Matfield in that pack bwhaaahaaaaa
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Mar 2015, 18:01#10
Poly you should try catch a wake up......that pack has never played against you. The ones our useless coach selects is hardly much bigger or better than your lot.
But one certainty is that you have nothing in NZ to match the pack I selected
POpolyboy
Club Pro601 posts
01 Mar 2015, 18:02#11
Mike I know you have a bias against NZ forwards however results speak volumes and votes by an independent panel have for 2 years in a row rated a NZ forward player the best player in the world. If the NZ tight 5 is so crap how so does the AB's continue to dominate World rugby and NZ sides Super rugby. Inversely what does it say about other sides who supposedly have better packs but are unable to beat the AB's on a consistent basis.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Mar 2015, 18:02#12
Retallick is huge as is Read for the rest there is nothing to write home about
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Mar 2015, 18:12#13
This is the same old thinking that led to our massive pack in the RWC QF in 2003. A pack, with Bezuidenhout and flexing Faan Rautenbach, a Dave favourite. They were out scrummed and run off their feetby NZ. So much so, at the end of the match Sommerville was explaining the bind to poor Bezuidenhout. We need more rugby smarts, not more beef.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Mar 2015, 18:27#14
Nope that pack was a joke mine is made up of 8 class monsters. Big difference.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Mar 2015, 22:03#15
3 IQ if you want to know why you have won as much as you have agaisnt the Boks since isolation ended just speak to bryce Lawrence's father he will give you the sordid details.
As for our tight five we have not feilded a tight five ever since wee victor 105 kgs started palying for the Boks. We only had a tight 4. Matfield is the biggest disaster e ver to hit Bok rugby barring none!If anybody cant see the diference between a Steph Du toit and wee matfield they need to visit an optician!The one steal matfiled made was becasue the ball was hrown too short and low.Also bear in mind that black lock was useless and all attention could be focused on Steph.
I have to also add Spies was useless. My grandmother could have scored tha try - huge gap that anybody could have strolled through.Bulle need to drop these two show ponies. They need to find a 6 and start with Greyling and Marcell as props.Boks could also consider a roving 7 like Labuschagne who leads the Super rugby tackle count I heard.Meyer needs to wake up big time!!!