Okay, but you did see the title of the thread, right?
It doesn't say "Best Bok team that Saffex has seen in his lifetime" it says "Best post war Bok team" .
Start your own thread if you can't stick to the topic.
The klaskap tein has spoken!!!
Whooooooooosh!
How can one select a team made up of players that are essentially just names on a piece of paper? Has Mrs Searle become Miss Searle jnr? Strange times.
Doos XL, I'm quite sure I speak for everyone . . . other than maybe Moffie and the Squeaky Toy . . . when I say that if we ever want the opinion of the most rugby ignorant person on this board (and that includes Baboon-ou and ou Maaik) then we'll be sure to ask you. Until then, rather keep your stupid trap shut.
I mean that in the nicest possible way.
You're repeating yourself... again...
Dairy Bells throwing her weight around is very funny.
"Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?"
And you can add funny to that list.
"I'm not trying to be a doos,"
No, it comes naturally.
Dad used rave about Die Windhond...I was too young and never saw him play...he also said Jannie Engelbrecht was up with best wings but Ray Mordt was the greatest.
"but this thread is for discussion of Springboks going all the way back to 1949 when the Springboks with players like Hennie Muller, Okey Geffin, Ryk van Schoor and Felix du Plessis whitewashed the All Blacks in a series for the one and only time in our history. Maybe you don't know of those players or care about them but that doesn't change the fact that they are all post war Boks and to come on to this thread and simply exclude them all because you never saw them is effectively trying to turn an interesting and refreshing topic "
Fair enough, but they can also not only be included becaused they whitewashed the Allblacks...2009 Boks also did. We should try and find out as much of them and their opponents of the era and build a case.
It would be nice to get hold of some film footage and news reports from back then...it could be an interesting discussion.
Whitewashed on a 4-test tour you ignorant little suck-up. The last proper tour between the All Blacks and the Springboks was in 1996 when they finally won a series here for the very first time. We only ever won a series once in New Zealand and that was in 1937.
Also, I'm not saying those players should be included just because they whitewashed the All Blacks, I was just using them as examples of great post war Springboks. The likes of Frik du Preez, Jan Ellis, Piet Greyling, Keith Oxlee, Dawie de Villiers, HO de Villers, John Gainsford are all examples of post war Bok s to be considered for such a team.
"Whitewashed on a 4-test tour you ignorant little suck-up. "
So whitewashing NZ on a 4 match tour is quite a feat...no other team has come close...so a pretty good Bok side...maybe the best ever?
That doesn't mean that all the individuals were super good...so how do we determine which ones were great, generational or just good? Maybe it was a poor NZ side or maybe poor reffing?
There must be more substance to the arguments for or against these players...let's hear it.
Have to say I agree with Peeper in this rare instance. For those who haven’t seen say Jannie Englebrecht there is plenty of material on YouTube that shows these players. A bit grainy, but you can still get a sense of what they were like as players.
It’s a post war team.
That's fine, but let us see the arguments on this site.
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Oh wow!...I'll keep looking.
Edit: the first vid I posted has a few decent ...and a good try...still prefer Carel and Habana.
DbD your posting at 6.11 is priceless.
Alert so early and a classic post.
Must say I agree about the post war heading which will date back to 1948 but some of the folks on this forum were still in Dadsbag around the late 40's and early 50's so cut them some slack.
After all we have our favourite players and or family playing the game and we are all biased anyway.
Scrum-halves that I rate as the best are van der Westerhuizen, Fourie and still have great respect for Gentles (early 50's).