Bok backline I would like to see

I would like to see Faf de Klerk and Pollard as halfbacks. Look to have far more talent than the wee abs half backs. Allende at 12 (Better than sunny bil), Serfontein at 13. Habana and Willie as your wings and Kriel at fullback.

Bench Hougaard, Lambie and JJ/Van Wyk.

Now that backline has some zip about it. 

That in fact is a very good backline match squad and the only other requirement is a decent backline coach.
Faf needs to be playing as a starter for the Lions  as much as is possibly - rotations needs etc allowing.
As with the forwards there should be  no problems other than what we contrive to make.Pack could be:Kitshof, Strauss (Capt) Kock - if these guys keep on demolishing oppostion why not?Eben , WillemseCoetzee, Vermulen and Labbers.Nice mobility in loose trio. Very tough tight five.
Now oaks that is how you select a side. If you want a more abrasive loose forward go for Rhodes (Elstadt being out) Keep a watch also on Burger lets see how he progresses.

Good team Beeno.
I think your "wishful thinking" candidates are Kriel at 15, Willemse at 5, Labbers at 7, Faf at 9. Not saying right or wrong, but they won't be selected as starters. Labbers, Kriel, Faf may not even make the touring squad, especially with the quotas in play and Willemse being an overseas player may not get serious consideration.
Kitshoff and Koch must be giving Meyer lots to think about, especially if their form continues for the remainder of the S15. It would certainly be a "big" call to replace Beast and Bissie although certainly some would say an easy one. Will be interesting to see what happens
LeRoux at 15 and Matfield at 5 are almost certain locks for selection. Don't see Meyer doing anything different there.
Love the call for Strauss at hooker - he has been better than Bismarck for a year and a half. Set pieces always seem to do better with him.

Steppie is toothless. We have watched this guy for two seasons now and we are still waiting for the first  centre break where he isn't running past props.

Oh boy here we go again.....last I checked he had a damn fine game scoring a powerhouse try......I'll say it one more time, this kid is better than Jean was at the same age.....best young 12 in the game  

 Dave
I tend to agree with Beeno here.  De Allende would create space for Serfontein to operate in - something that Serfontein would not be able to  do to a similar extent at 12 .    
I have no problem with Serfontein at 13 where he would be much more dangerous than he would be at 12.  I would not be surprised if Meyer does go for the center combination as suggested by Beeno.
      

Saff - define "creative". What stat would best show creativity - offloads, defenders beaten, line breaks, line breaks created, try assists? You can't say none - thats not an option

 Bring on de Allende for the Boks. Can't tackle and goes missing when the pressure goes on! JDV if fit is still a class above any other midfielder in SA.

If Frans Steyn plays I would like to see him tackle Cruden. 
Pollart at 10 and Frans Steyn at 12, and poor wee Cruden would need a nappy.
He was scared to tackle Pollard close to the line, but facing those two on back foot ball and he is not going to like it. 

Pollard, Frans, de Allende....pity we can't have Kokott at 9. 

 Well said mike agreeing with beeno is always a wise move!
The guy who gets things humming is Faf. The most dynamic scrummie in world rugby right now. All he needs is experience. 
Kriel will be more solid at 15. Willie can spark things on the wing and by slipping into the flyhalf role on occassions. DevastatingThe wee abs wouldny know what hit them. The pack I picked would flatten them and the backs would rip em!!! If only Meyer had the necessary vision. But he will doubtless plod on with wee matfiled, plead for bakkies to come back and be over the moon re the return of spiesies - bwhahahahahaha funny but sad.
Frans has a great deal to prove. I wish him well but he must not walk into a Bok team on reputation. Has he got any gas. How good is his work ethic/contribution.
Quotas are a big problem because with the f ading of Beast and JP its looking more and more like a white team if picked on merit.

 Nice try Beeno but A Smith is the best half back in the world. Be jealous! . You always talk about the the Boks pack flattining the abs pack. But consistently year in and year out since 2011, its been the other way around!

 Is Beeno1 related to Beeno?  
For some strange reason Beeno1 is always praising Beeno. I hope this is not some kind of in-bred thing.

Apparently Matfield is going to be in the back-line at the world cup for the Boks instead of Jean. Matfield is allready the attack coach at the Bulls and he wants the same at the Springboks. 

 Fransie was totally out-played when facing De Allende and just about average against Venter - so suddenly he is the top no 12 according to our resident no 1 BS spreader.   What makes him so?   His stats were as follows:-
Against the Stormers

Steyn0/002/4/6700228/20/031/0
This according to Mozart is magnificent stuff fit for the Springbok team:-
*   Six carries making hay by gaining 7 magnificent meters*   Two off-loads - can it get any better - definitely not*   Only two missed tackles out of 8 attempts - wonderful performance*   Only three penalties given away - the stuff legends are made of*   And a yellow card - what is wrong with people for criticizing that - they are most ungrateful - a red card would have mean even a greater achievement.
Against the Cheetahs
Steyn1/051/5/61902114/20/010/0
This according to Mozart is magnificent stuff fit for the Springbok team:-

*   Scoring his first try in Super 15 since his return from Racing Metro In April 2012 - what a massive performance*   Six carries making hay by gaining 19 magnificent meters - beating all of 2 defenders - that happens to be 25% compared to  defenders beaten during the whole of 2014 Super 15 - definitely a huge improvement.
*   One off-load - can it get any better - definitely not*   Only 2 missed tackles out of 6 attempts - wonderful performance*   Only 1 penalties given away - the stuff legends are made of
The above from the village idiot who has never said a positive thing about Jan Serfontein.   Now lets see what happened when Serfontein played against the same opponent as Steyn in the match between the Bulls and the Cheetahs  the previous week:-
Serfontein1/050/6/623021211/30/000/0
According to Mozart Serfontein's performance was deplorable:-
*   He scored only one try - how bad can things get?*   He carried the ball six times and made only 23 meters in the process - really poor*   Beating two defenders only  - that really is poor.*   And one-ball off-load - can it get worse - definitely not*   Serfonmtein is poor in defense - he missed 3 tackles in 14 attempts by him - what a mess.
From the above it is clear why our resident village idiot is such a biased fool in his assessment of players and now - after a poor performance the week before and a rather average one last week against a weak team - Steyn is the answer for the Springboks at 12.   
If I was not in a charitable mood I would have used harsh words to deal with the idiotic assessment of Mozart and his suggestion that Steyn should be the o 12 in the Springbok team.    

 Those weights are actually polystyrene.

 Shezza
Amazing - even if those weights are polystyrene - it is magnificent that the waif-like figure of Victoria Matfield could handle it.   

 As Wayne Newton said in Liscence To Kill.....bless your heart OOm.

 

Hardly waif-like

Blobbok, that picture is not current. And even if it was, what does it prove? A 45 year old body builder would look fantastic, but that would have no bearing what so ever on his rugby playing ability. 

That photo is of Vic in 2010, when he was in his prime size wise......it was 113kg in those days.....its a pathetic 108kg's these days  

 Dave
Wro ng - Matfield's  weight is given before Super 15 games as 105 kgs - not 108 kgs.    

Even worse.....hell JP is heavier than him  

 
Don't wor ry too much Saffex, Victor is an old man trying to convince...he has his supporters...the old guys who are trying to regain their youth...Mozart is one of them. At least Ol' Mike realises this and gives accurate judgement ...he knows the infirmities of a slowly deroding body...even Clean Cut who is over the hill with all of his health suggestions

I have to worry as our stupid coaches keep selecting the old timer  

 Can wait to see the end of matfiled and the building of a proper tight five and pack as a whole.
Matfied has buggered things up for a decade.
By the way snapster cut out the bull. matfield never was more than 108kg. He himself said his best weight was between 106 and 108 kg.
Your 113g is a figment of your imagination. He never ever reached those weights. He was always a pap lightweight who pulled the wool over the eys of many a rugby fan.A few months after stopping rugby he was down to 102 kg and it was feared he was too light.The wee abs wont know what has hit them when a  decent Bok pack is picked. Some great youngsters coming through.
No pick my backline as well and with a fair competent ref the wee abs stand little chance of winning.I have to insist on having a fair competent ref as even if you have, for example, a good front row, illegal scrumming (eg by Croquette) will give the nz side a huge and undeserved advantage.

i like these name ur team threads, i have a few new inclusions i would like to see in the Boks tthis year after watching the 2015 spXV so far....

uchiha clan Bok XV...

1 s kitshoff, 2 a strauss (c), 3 c oosthuizen

4 lady elizabeth, 5 l de jager

6 m coetzee, 7 n carr, 8 d vermeulen

9 f hougaard, 10 h pollard

12 j serfontein, 13 d de allende

11 j kreil, 15 w le roux, 14 c hendricks

16 bizzy, 17 beast, 18 v koch, 19 j du plesiss, 20 w whittley, 21 c reinach, 22 p lambie, 23 c van wyk

i didnt select stephanie du toit cos last i heard hes gone for the season, but had he been available, lood would have gon to the bench and j du plessis would bump out whittley to cover the bench.

i also only selected players who play their rugby in SA, some are leaving after the RWC, but imo thats all good, its selecting over seas players which IMO is a practise which is weakning SA club rugbvy teams.

 Sasue
Du Toit's injury was not as serious as they originally feared it might have been and he is scheduled for a lay-off until early or mid June - he may even play in the last few rounds in Super 15, even though i doubt whether Meyer would allow that to happen.  He is bound to be in the squad for the RC and if no further problems arise will be available for the WC.




 

 Not too  bad selection saSUE but doubt Carr is up to it and Koch on current form would get in before coenie.Also habana could still make it before Hendricks.Kriel at 15 Willie on the wing. 

 At least its an honest seelction saSUE dispite a number of errors. T hat rouge in sheeps clothing JW is still punting wee matfield!!!! 
I read the oak like an open book!

 We need a proper 13 and I can't see any contenders. Hope it changes soon.

Sasuke San: glad you are back with advice & guidance for our SABBS (South African bird brains). There are weaknesses in several positions, eg inside backs (10 is ok), outside backs; & lock. . Glad Moz is offering words of wisdom re wee Matfield. There is the other problem, ie the identity crisis of the team (are they a 10 man rugby team or are they capable of more?). Also glad to see you have had some influence on beeno1 (& hopefully Beeno as well). Glad to see he now portrays himself in overalls ).

 I know Sasue likes Carr very much - but Coetzee is a far better performer.   Looking at SA players only and two foreign-based players only - my team wopuld look like the following:-
15   Jesse Kriel14   Willie le Roux13   Jan Serfontein12   Damian de Allende11   Bryan Habana10   Handre Pollard 9   Cobus Reinach 8   Duane Vermeulen 7   Pieter Labuschagne 6   Marcel Coetzee 5   Pieter-Steph du Toit 4   Eben Etzebeth 3   Vincent Koch 2   Adriaan Struass 1   Tendai Ntawarire
16   Armand van der Merwe17   Coenie Oosthuizen18   Trevor Nyakane19   Lood de Jager20   Nizaam Carr21   Francois Hougaard22   Patrick Lambie23   JP Pietersen
Unfortunately the race issue will trump that team - and we can expect much worse.  Please note no Du Plessis and no Matfield - time to move on from those.   Armand van der Merwe is going to be a better hooker than any of the present hookers have ever been.