SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Aug 2014, 01:19#42
One has to ask what the hell steenkamp is still doing in the squad to tour oz after that hiding....It sums clueless Meyer up
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Aug 2014, 04:22#43
Mozart
"The simple fact is, we are currently struggling for 13s, 9s, 3s and perhaps even 1s. We are not as strong proven talent wise as we have been every year since 2004. To win this year we will have to play to our strengths and be very tactically astute."
That is the worst summingn up I have ever seen - the real moron one. To win this year we shall have to play to our strengths - which strengths are you talking about? Aimlessakicking handing over possession was the only strength possible with monkeys like DB Steyn and Pienaar in th equation. You ant the Slapgat in as lock as well. So what is there to play to?
We won possession and Pienaar or Morne makes aimless donkey kicks and hand possession straight back to the Wallabies - who counter-attacks. That will happen every time we gain possession. Just hand it straight back to the opposing teams.
Lets put it bluntly - we need not struggl at most positions - but we do because we have deficiencies in key players and BD Steyn, Alberts and Matfield adds to those.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2014, 04:44#44
The only problem is Alberts and Matfield weren't playing on Saturday, and Morne only appeared long enough to win the match. Which blows your thesis out of the water.
By the way OOm were you hitting the bottle more heavily tonight , you are even more garbled than usual.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Aug 2014, 06:05#45
Morne is more of a matchloser - than a matchwinner. He has - like Chippo said elsewhere as much ball sense as a Blind Donkey. That is why he is a matchloser. He was successful in three kicks at goal - same as Pollard kicked - and any flayhalf would have made that pass you claimed was so wonderful - and then he turned around and tried desperately - with a kick directly out of touch - when the ball should have been kept in hand by passing it.
S ame as last week with that chargedown kick of his - which we were fortunately sabed embarrassment by De Allende.
It has never hiot home yet why Morne is routinely the bench player for Stade Francais - now has it? It is because -
* of routine aimless kicks; and* the total inability to know when to pass balls and when to kick.
For the latter watch minute 56 - 57 of the game in Pretoria and also the last two minutes of the game in Salta. Also the last seconds of the Ellis Park test first half. Also watch the Eden Park test where he failed to find touch twice with penalty kicks and the same with the Paris test in November last year.
His whole game is based on kicking - but he buggers that up routinely because he does not know when to kick and when to pass balls and when he kicks his kicks are wildly inaccurate and mostly serve as a means to hand over possession to the opposition - nothing strategic in his kicking game.
The simplicity of your arguments about him winning the match iis mindboggling. It is based on assumptions that is so far removed from the reality that anyone could imagine. The assumption you make is that Pollard would have missed those conversions - after he missed none earlier on and Pollard would not have passed the ball to De Villiers in the case of the Hendricks try. What a load of crap.
There is one thing Pollard - or for that mattr any reasonable flyhalf - would not have doine and that was to kick a ball he should have passed and if he did - he would not have fouled up by kicking the ball directly into touch.
I do not drink anything alcoholic niormally - has ha d perhaps two beers thus far this year - so what are you tryng to say - you old fool?
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2014, 06:30#46
A very unsophisticated point of view OOm and wrong as usual. Pollard 6 kicks, 5 passes....Morne 3 kicks, 6 passes. There is a reason we score tries when Morne is at 10, he is a superb passer. You rugby Neanderthals imagine somebody like Goosen is going to be running through wide open spaces. Maybe, every ten tests or so. But prising open modern defences comes down to passing, and no SA flyhalf is a better passer than Morne. He also routinely gets the Boks into opposing quarters where we can unleash the maul. You simply miss what he does for the team, thankfully HM doesn't.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Aug 2014, 07:23#47
Mozart
The Neanderthals must then be with the Stade Francais Club as well. BR Steyn is a "superb passer" - we have not scored two many tries over the past four years because of BD - matter of fact he is not the main reason for scoring tries - Willie is. Before Willie came on the scene we had a very poor tryscoring record with our backline.
If you believe that Morne is a superb passer - you will also believe the moon is made of green cheese. Problem is there is abundent evidence that BD Steyn does not know when to pass balls and when not to - and that deficiency causes havoc in the Boks performances. You quote stats - but two passes by Morne happened in or just outside of the Springboks 22 - while where he should have passed near the Boks halfway line - he kicked the ball directly into touch. In the Pretoria game he did the same.
I do not miss what he does for the team - what I do also not miss also is where he fouds up badly and foul up he does with regularity. Why did Meyer put him on the bench - since the second Welsh test? The reason is that he fouled up badly in that test - as he has done with regularity in the tests since 2011.
You simply try and invent some things he does for the team - not what he actually does. Meyer realizes he has to do with a robot here - not a flyhalf and he is dessperately looking for a way out.
One thing is for sure - if the Wallabies and All Blacks see Morne's name on the Springboks teamsheet - they love it - because they know exactly what to expect from the Stade Fancais Reject.
You are now writing up BD Steyn the same way as yiou wrote up Steenkamp and your national treasure over the past three months. W here did that get us over the pas two weeks? In rugby you have a fertile mind for inventing things that do not happen and an absolutely closed vision as to what actulaly happens on the field of play. That is why what you write is so warped and far remioved from reality.
GTGonzo the Great
Club Pro560 posts
GTGonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Aug 2014, 14:19#48
morne has won all black tests pretty much on his own. that is more than any other 10 in the world can say right now. sorry mika but you blew your load on this one and came out the stooge. mozies running rings round you in his wheelchair, poppin wheelies to boot. you got nothing.