Boks Vs Wobblies team

15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Jasper Wiese, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Damian Willemse

What does Marx have to start?!!! 

Can't believe that they are persisting with the 6/2 bench

Nkosi is a good replacement for Kolbe. Pretty much as predicted

Cheslin Kolbe still injured. Welcome back Duane Vermeulen. Don't expect a change in the game plan.

Pretty much as expected. Lets see what José and Krutch can dial up. Expect lots of dead-end ball to 12 if they want to dig deep into the playbook. Not sure what to expect of Thor, but Wiese is there. Lots of energy and physicality in Kwagga, Wiese, Marx, Nche. It'll be tough for the Wallabies to keep the Bok power play at bay unless they put us through many phases. We haven't really faced sustained pressure like that all season. 

Three loosie replacements remains a weird choice, facilitated by Mostert. But is it really necessary. Nkosi a big step down , hopefully Kolbe will be fit for the NZ tests. Interesting that Koch is clearly preferred over Wilco and Thomas.

Kwagga for any position, Wiese for Thor, van Staden for Kolisi. We're covered for when Mostert has to shift to lock - Lood very rarely lasts more than 50-55 mins.

Th team is largely as expected.    I do beleive that Marx is on the ebench to strengthen the front three when they come on.   Marx is exceptionally strong and will help the two props in getting the upper hand in scrumming when eh comes on. 

Mostert is not a good enough blindode flank - his open field tackles are lotteries oftene nough failing,     Mostert is a problem he is not strong enough physically to add muscle  to scrumming.   

As to th rest of the players - all are as expected,          

1. Kwagga is more than physical enough.
2. Nkosi isn't half the threat Mapimpi is. Defensively weaker, less secure under the high ball, doesn't link up in play, doesn't go looking for work like Mapimpi. General reading of play and skill inferior. Not even close to the level of Kolbe.
3. Mostert is one of the most involved players and van Staden so far has done nothing of note for the Boks. His greatest achievement is not being a clearcut stuff up.
4. There is no comparison between RG and Lood. Lood is slow in movement and thought, clumsy and without skill, very vulnerable on defence when targeted. Has very poor physicality for his size, even were he 30% smaller he is actually quite weak. RG is the most complete lock in world rugby. Van Rensburg was unreal when he came on. There is no need for Lood. Steph (the 17th best lock and 29th best SA ball carrier) is the Johan Muller role at lock.
5. Agreed, Marx starts. 

It looks certain that Mostert will switch to lock in the 2nd half and play the whole match.

Eztebeth is more likely able to play the whole match, as he is a bit fitter than Lood. 

Having an extra loosie might be to cover Vermeulen who might not last the whole game, as he has played no matches for the last 2-3 months.

I read a report that RG is out for the rest of the year. Seems a very long time for a family bereavement- at least for a professional sportsperson with commitments. 

This article just published re-iterates the points I made earlier in the week.
i.e. the extra flankers are to counter the running game of the Aussie's on this wide pitch- and Vermuelen is unlikely to last the whole test match. 

https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/rugbychampionship/theres-a-good-reason-for-the-springboks-weird-looking-bomb-squad-20210909

Bos are starting with 3 locks or finishing with 4 flanks. Mostert is comfortable at 7 and 5

SB

You must mioss the point of  Mostert  being effective at 7.   He ahs a serious open field ackle problem and in his alst match he missed four tackles - all open-field misses.    I would much rather see a faster and better loosie than him at 7.   At this stage he is a stand-in 7 - nothing more.      

Unfortunately for you Tokkie, ESPN have now published the match stats: Here they are for defense:

Mostert makes 15 tackles and misses 1. Where are the 4 tackles you claim he missed. Just another chancing of your arm hey? Once again Mostert was our leading tackler.

Mostert has nearly as many defensive engagements as Steph under José, but with almost 45% better accuracy. But then, we are comparing a key Bok to the 17th best flank, so Mostert is naturally going to win this. I wasn't initially in favour of Mostert, but he pops up in key moments to make decisive contributions. Production over media fantasy. 

Limp and Stephanie are physically dominated each and every game. 

Kwagga can play on the backline if needed so the 672 split is not as risky as it apoears.

Mostert is fine at. Very good actually.

Koch picked as he is more mobile. 

Side has been picked to counter Wobblies expansive high temp game. 

Given a fair Réf we should win this one. 

If you don't know what is potting - oaks like the Org - just ask questions. 

Dud Toit never beats a tackle, never takes a lineout, is careful to never to have to make an open field tackle, never offloads, rarely passes….and you think he is great Dave. Dud may have a longer neck, but give me the honest, intelligent contributions of Mostert any day….at lock or at flank.

He never carries momentum ….you can see it right in the numbers where Dud Toit has about the lowest metres per carry in the known universe.

Lood is ineffective as a carrier. He thuds on the gainline and falls like a tree trunk slowly to ground. Slow, predictable, clunky phase play. How many times has he lost critical possession in contact? Too many. Our players are being beaten at the gainlineon defence and attack. 

Hopefully the Boks do what is necessary (and ignore Ruckers advice, laugh out loud) and slip a win, an achievement to add a plus to their records in Brisbane. But I don't think so... the Wallies have had 2 speed wobbles against NZ but in Brisbane they will find their mojo.

You can only compare Dud to Eben if he is playing lock….a flank gets more open field running chances. I repeat Dud is a toothless runner….about the lowest metres per carry of any regular international flank. 

And the Boks never missed him in the Lions series…the contrary was true, we improved the moment he departed.

Du Toit did plenty of that but at one stag e you accuse him of being on the wing - so what lie will be unearth next?     Mostert does not make openfield carries and he has an extremely poor record in open-field defennse.   So what else about that?   

Du Toit did plenty of that but at one stag e you accuse him of being on the wing - so what lie will be unearth next?     Mostert does not make openfield carries and he has an extremely poor record in open-field defennse.   So what else about that?   

You say these things Dave with no facts, no stats, no instances….just assertions. Sorry I don’t buy your assertions on Dud.

As for you Mike, you are just a liar. You lied about how many tackles Mostert missed in the last test….trusted that the stats weren’t available….and then when they were, never corrected your lie. What the hell is  your major malfunction. How can you think that sort of behavior is acceptable. Clean up your act.

Shamepies!!!

Selecting by skin colour may work against Georgia and Japan ... but not against better teams like the useless Ozzies.

Can't wait to see Zuma's Goats against the All Blacks. 

I wonder ... will Rassie be throwing his toys again?

Poor dear ... it's all so unfair.

Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha!

Wee cc makes a cameo performance to vent against the Boks. He and tråd deserve a section of their own. Imagine the the level of discussion. 

Are you pouting, BeanDip?

Why?

Oh ... sorry ... your beloved Goats got thumped by the useless Ozzies.

I guess it's that damn ref's fault ... again ... right?

Well if this is how you behave against the Wallabies ... perhaps it's best you not watch their match against the Mighty All Blacks.

Tell me DumbFuck Dave ... how many more years are you going to keep your head lodged up your ass?

It's easily 30 years now ... don't you think it's enough already?