Bulls v Leinster - final minutes

Shut your bloody trap, you self-righteous prick! Like I said it's my opinion.

There was no need to be an emotional Paddy and start swearing, totally uncalled for.

Mpower, I'm not swearing at you in you particular just this attitude South African rugby fans in general have particularly online. It takes the fun out of interacting with them.

I'm happy to acknowledge that the current South African rugby team has achieved something unprecedented in winning two world cups back to back and you're fully deserved of your no.1 ranking, it's fully deserved and any other nation would kill to achieve that. But at the start of the URC there was warnings from the Kiwi's that when you lot moved up north you were going to do nothing but whinge. Instantly it went from a conspiracy about Kiwi refs and NZ favouritism to Northern Hemisphere favouritism.. Why... how does that make sense... we wanted you to join us. It was in our interest and yours, why would we be deliberately screwing you over with ref decisions.

I'm not being emotional... I'm not a Leinster fan. It's just 5 years of interaction with South African rugby fans... it takes all the fun out of sporting contests. The ref always comes up.

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To Tom & Jerry, Admin

keep up the good work

I'm not a Leinster fan.

I've never been a Bulls fan but they're part of my rugby Family

:-)

Bizarre AF...

"It was in our interest and yours, why would we be deliberately screwing you over with ref decisions."

I'm not saying that it is the case the SA teams are being screwed by refs.

But it's easy to make an argument for why sporting bodies would want to control results.

Revenue.

We've had our share of dodgy decisions that go our way.

Pakie... attacking stats doesn't define the worth of a team...the Bools have been consistent in getting to the finals, but can't get over the finish line

Ja stats don't tell a full story Draad, but it highlights trends. The Stormers scored the least tries of the SA franchises. That points to a problem. They barely beat the Sharks with meters gained and clean breaks, and that's with two extra games in the bag. They have arguably the best defense of the SA sides, I'll give them that. But like all our sides apart from the Lions, their attacking game is sorely lacking. We can bitch about refs all we want - the bottom line is our sides struggle to create opportunities.

Another interesting stat: The Lions, playing the most expansive game of all our sides, conceded the fewest turnovers by a huge margin.

The Stormers have the closest to the Bok game plan...the game plan you guys keep on complaining about, but it won the Bokke 4 RWCs...2 on the trot...forward dominance, a rock solid defence and backs that can exploit turnover ball...doesn't yield champagne rugby most of the time, but it's the best knockout rugby strategy...the Stormers was one victory and a bonus point or 2 from a home semi or final ...Bools too...and close to the same game plan...the Bools had a poor start to the season...Bools and Lions run up huge scores on the highveld against touring teams...it skews their attacking stats ...Stormers has close to European conditions in winter... that's Euro teams beat us more at home...we should remedy that ...be more focused at home...the fact that some of our home games are played in Stellies or PE is also problematic...the result of having COCT in charge of the stadium ... throwing away home advantage for 2 odd games a season is rediculous... Can't stand the fact that the DA city council, ANC fat cats and Thelo Wakefield scammed WP out of Newlands ...they needed someone to pay for the maintenance of the stadium, but then can't work out a schedule allowing for all our games being played at Cape Town Stadium...typical political horse sh!t.

The problem with the Bools is that they simply don't have any quality backs that Leinster have. Moody, Pollard, Papier, Willie and Arendse are all internationals and yet with having together for the past 4 months, I hoped they would gel and finally show there worth. The Bools, have the forwards to. But just poor selection, game plan and back play. If it is not Papier kicking it was Pollard.

The other problem is that these boks know they are in the bok team and not playing for a position. I just wish Rassie would award club for with test positions and not the other way around.

But they were all kak, not just the coach, but when he selects Carr and 5 loose forwards in the the bench speaks volumes