MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Dec 2021, 18:43#2
No new talent….no new tactics….3rd in the RC…..Berrygate. It’s been a bad year for the Harrassistas. But the lack of any new talent in effectively the first year post the WC is really remarkable. Of the 24 players on the squad for the Pom test Wiese is the only player whose first test was in 2021. That amounts to 1 new squad player over 2 years, because we missed 2020 with the Chicken run.
Does anybody see this?
06 Dec 2021, 20:54#3
No one really knows what R&N is planning....but the lack of new established players is a major concern. I don’t think that we are alright for WC , as the conservative player selection backed up by conservative gameplan, we are in more trouble then we actually realize. Besides teams are waking up to our desperate grinding style of Rugby and winning. Also the obvious refusal on the part of R&N to get a specialist attack/backline coach, has made us predictable and one dimensional.
06 Dec 2021, 20:54#4
No one really knows what R&N is planning....but the lack of new established players is a major concern. I don’t think that we are alright for WC , as the conservative player selection backed up by conservative gameplan, we are in more trouble then we actually realize. Besides teams are waking up to our desperate grinding style of Rugby and winning. Also the obvious refusal on the part of R&N to get a specialist attack/backline coach, has made us predictable and one dimensional.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Dec 2021, 22:21#6
Plenty of young talent around
15. Fassi
14. Stravino Jacobs
13. Similane
12. Willemse
11. Green
10. Jordan Hendrikse
9. Jayden Hendrikse
1. Mchunu
2. Grobelaar
3. Hanro Jacobs
4. Moerat
5. vd Mecht
6. Buthelezi
7. Tshituka
8. Evan Roos
16. Mbatha 17. McBeth 18. Sandi 19. Janko Swanepoel 20. Elrigh Louw 21. Nohamba 22. Chamberlain 23. Rickus Pretorious
06 Dec 2021, 22:54#7
I agree Saffex...but very unfortunately as you can see by your list, only 2 players were picked by the R&N regime and the rest squandered For some unexplainable reason.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Dec 2021, 23:35#9
Well if it was an under 25 side then more players would feature
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Dec 2021, 10:14#12
This is a good young side
15. Fassi
14. Nkosi
13. Similane
12. Willemse
11. Green
10. Hendrikse
9. Hendrikse
1. Ox Nche
2. Dweba
3. Thomas du Toit
4. Jason Jenkins
5. RG Snyman
6. James Venter
7. JL du Preez
8. Dan du Preez
16. Grobelaar 17. Mchunu 18. Sadie 19. Ruben Schoeman 20. Evan Roos 21. Nohamba 22. Chamberlain 23. Rickus Pretorious
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Dec 2021, 13:42#15
Well there is no way they should have beaten to Boks we completely dominated them but have ourselves to blame for far too many missed opportunities
Eddie has not changed his side in years, this is the first time
Our side right now has virtually no room for the inclusion of new players
Willie was not great but not done yet, but Fassi possibly should have been given a run.
There is no place for Green given we have Mapimpi, Kolbe and Nkosi on the wing
At centre de Allende and Am are going nowhere, with Kriel and Frans as backup. Frans needs to be replaced and that will be Willemse
At 10 it’s Pollard and Jantjies so no movement there
Same at 9 where we have Faf, Reinach and Jantjies - no movement
Props are covered with Kitshoff, Ox, Thomas, Wilco Louw, Malherbe, Nyakane and Koch
Hookers have Marx, Mbonambi and Dweba - no movement
Locks have Eben, Lood and RG - there is room to move on from powder puff Mostert and useless Orie
Loosies are covered in Vermeulen, Kolisi, Kwagga, PSDT, Wiese and v Staaden
So reality dictates that while some youngsters have been brought into our squad there is no place for them in the starting side. The only potential spot is on the bench replacing Frans Steyn.
Willie and Vermeulen maybe in the very near future but that’s it.
With RG back, Mostert will move out of the match 23
The Bok side is established with players in their prime other than Vermeulen and Frans - they are ranked number 1 so still getting things mostly right so there is little room for change
For me the squad is spot on other than the likes of Frans, Mostert and Orie
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Dec 2021, 17:51#17
Oh crap we were far better than England we dominated them physically in every department - we should have beaten them by 15 plus
8 points missed at poles and 3 tries coughed up
We dominated them as much as we did in the WC final but failed to convert that domination into points in that second half
Your take on the youngsters not selected is nonsense - who should be dropped in the Bok 23 for a youngster
Also that U23 side is hardly the measure given it has Willemse at 15, who let’s face it has done nothing there.