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BrycyPro4,671 posts
21 Sept 2012, 10:36
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21 Sept 2012, 10:36#1

Aarron Cruden or Dan Carter will be kicking some yarpie butt Boklogic.

Bean Brain no excuses for losing at home. Who is the ref so we know who to afford blame? Aussies gunna be a good test of yr mettle 

Will you beat the Aussies Bean Brain yes or no and don't give me some convoluted answer subject to this proviso here caveat there and all that gobbltygook....

See Aaron Cruden's kick that hit both posts? What can't this Mighty Chief do...top Super 15 points scorer an all that....Carter should put his feet up an let Aaron Cruden run amok...not much hope for the bokkes...

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Sept 2012, 10:46
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21 Sept 2012, 10:46#2

Brycy not being a fortune teller all I can do is work on recent form. Having whipped the wee abs on all but the scoreboard I have to be honest and say two home wins are on the cards.

However my caveat is refs and injuries plus I have not yet seen who Meyer will choose. If he goes with wee daniels and brussouw it becomes doubtful and also with Morne being so out of form with the boot he has to drop him lest we lose another test through poor goal kicking.

So happy for you brycy that wee dan is coming here. I will alert Vermulen and Louw to that minor matter. wee crude was shut down very well last Saturday and I see liile reason why wee dan will not suffer the same fate.

So best  of luck to all the wee abs!

Beeno ever the true sportsman!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Sept 2012, 11:25
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21 Sept 2012, 11:25#3

Brycy

I am very worried about Carter - to my mind the best flyhalf I have ever had the privilege to see playing.   The question is - how many matches has he effectively played since the injury during the WC campaign and how many times could he be selected when he was not on the injury list?

My theory that older players may get injured more frequently and they take longer to recover is still very much in plce - and whether Carter is going to survive two difficult tests without further injury remains to be seen.   Hope it is not th cse - for All Black rugby needs him.   I was hoping that cruden can replace him - but Crude seems to be very much a poorer flyhalf compared to Carter. 

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nukefreekiwiClub Pro441 posts
21 Sept 2012, 13:20
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21 Sept 2012, 13:20#4

 Every 1st 5 in the workd is "poorer" when compared to DC. That doesnt mean that Cruden isn't a great  player with a whole lotta potential.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Sept 2012, 13:32
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21 Sept 2012, 13:32#5

Cruden a great player definitely not - a good player with potential is the best description.   Under pressure  he does not look good though - that showed up in both Super 15 and the last two All Bolack tests.

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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Sept 2012, 13:52
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21 Sept 2012, 13:52#6

 Brycy, we now know why the AB's are such a tight bunch. I managed to get footage of them training in Dunedin...And yes, this was the day of the Test match in Dunedin...

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nukefreekiwiClub Pro441 posts
21 Sept 2012, 13:53
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21 Sept 2012, 13:53#7

Please. A world cup and a super trophy in less than 10 months and you think Cruden  isn't a great player. Lol! Man, you okes get more desperate and more desperate as the losses stack up. Please name one South African first 5 who meets your criteria of a great player ( let me guess.... Goosen, the man who has played less than 60 minutes of test rugby and failed to win a solitary game). 

I hope you'll forgive me if I take your analysis of Cruden with a grain of salt boetjie. 

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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
21 Sept 2012, 14:02
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21 Sept 2012, 14:02#9

 Nuke, I think you take the word "great" with a grain of salt. Cruden did not win the super trophy or wc himself. If anything, SBW makes him  look great. He is always injured. He needs a good feed...

 

He is a good player but nowhere near great. Great is Dan Carter, Stephen Larkham...Cruden is not in the same league. Beauden Barrett is better than Cruden.. It takes a lot more than a few starts due to injuries to become a "great."

 

Cruden can be really good but he can also be a weak link when he has pressure on him and that is not a trait of a great...Dan Carter can can turn a pressure situation around consistently and thats why he is great.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Sept 2012, 14:07
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21 Sept 2012, 14:07#10

yes Mike dan is getting injured more and more as tome goes on. I dont think he copes t owell with the physical style of the game. Basket ball rugby is his game. He needs to get acquainted with Louw and Vermuelen.

Crude clearly thinks he is the next big cheese in rugby as one can see by how he struts about but should be more realisitic about his talents.

Boklogic that is really shocking stuff!!!  Have the abs got no cultures ek se!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Sept 2012, 15:56
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21 Sept 2012, 15:56#11

nukefreekiwi

Do you realize the difference between great and good?   Great rugby players are ew and far between - you really have to great players in Crter and McCaw - no one doubts that.   You have some good players also - Cude is one - but Cruden will never be a great player - there are real deficiencies that prevent him from being a great player.   One of those is is performance under pressure - not nice to see. 

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