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Case against Etzebeth going forward....

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AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
03 Oct 2019, 19:10
#41
03 Oct 2019, 19:10#41

sharkbok I totally agree with your above posting.

Honest and to the point.

Well stated.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
03 Oct 2019, 19:49
#42
03 Oct 2019, 19:49#42

Another condemnation of the rule of law.

How things work.


One big question mark is to know whether this guy, once cleared, since he is going to be cleared, SA can not afford sentencing him, will look for compensation.

Because it is all about compensation.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
03 Oct 2019, 19:53
#43
03 Oct 2019, 19:53#43

This thing has been politicised.


Rugby is a political thing in SA, courtesy of the previous regime. Political action meets political action.

Now the SA rugby team made it even worse as they could have afforded releasing this player as they have more than enough players to start at his position.

No worries though, there will be no condemnation. Just like the quota policy. There is none enacted in SA.


TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
03 Oct 2019, 19:55
#44
03 Oct 2019, 19:55#44

Go North Eben make real money and get your love ones to follow....


The same was said about that player who used his rugby profile to promote religion.

Job opportunities are so scarce this guy is suing on that ground.

This guy is trouble.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
03 Oct 2019, 20:07
#45
03 Oct 2019, 20:07#45

I don't believe that anyone nowadays can be involved in the type of altercation described without x number of people filming the event. The absence of any such evidence probably means that sweet vokkal, apart from obscene verbal jousts, happened .


Incredible assertion. The solution to all woes.

No crime, no rape, no murder can happen these days without x number of people filming the event.

Considering the issues in SA for anything basic like food, water access etc it would be telling to know the number of cell phones among the population, who own them.


Already fishy things happening in this case with video evidences taken down.

This player was involved in three reported incidents, a wild ride. The first two were quickly forgotten, as they probably involved SA white people who sacrificed honesty, respect of the law etc to their rugby god.


Baffling remark, lately, a SA rugby player was accused of beating down a dentist. Nothing happened since there was no video evidence.

Later, this player would be charged with drug addiction in the north.

Only in SA.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Oct 2019, 21:40
#46
03 Oct 2019, 21:40#46

Rooi, you do understand the difference between an allegation and the confirmation of the actual events and the details and facts?


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Oct 2019, 23:13
#47
03 Oct 2019, 23:13#47
Sure Peeper gets it. ...it’s an allegation if it’s a left wing loon and a confirmed fact if it’s a conservative. We don't have the facts, but we do know the motivations
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Oct 2019, 00:27
#48
04 Oct 2019, 00:27#48

Let's just hope he wans't pretending to quick-scopes scrubs 

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Oct 2019, 01:30
#49
04 Oct 2019, 01:30#49

This incident is right up Koosie's sleeve....his hate of the guy is well documented. It's like "I told you so" as opposed to waiting for the truth to come out through proper procedure.

RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
04 Oct 2019, 02:07
#50
04 Oct 2019, 02:07#50

Let me guess... out for a drink... hassled by locals... eben being a tough dude with a couple of drinks under his belt reacted to a situation.. quickly escalated... 

If guns were involved... one would have to ask... would Eben not be prudent to carry such given his national profile and the perceived anarchy that exists in parts of RSA?

Yep - get outta there Eben - go to France play NH come back and play for the boks in tournaments and then retire somewhere without the complicated BS...  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Oct 2019, 06:08
#51
04 Oct 2019, 06:08#51
Etzebeth to play on Friday despite Equality Court case

Springboks / 3 October 2019, 06:29am / By Nick Said

FUKUROI CITY – Springbok lock Eben Etzebeth will line-up against Italy in a must-win Rugby World Cup Pool B clash at the Shizuoka Stadium in Japan on Friday despite allegations of physical and racial abuse hanging over him.

The matter stems from an incident in the South African coastal town of Langebaan on Aug. 25, during which a man was allegedly racially and physically abused by a group that included Etzebeth.

The South African Human Right Commission (SAHRC) will approach the Equality Court on Friday to ask it to hear what amounts to a civil case, a date for which will only be set later.

State prosecutors have yet to decide whether there is a case to answer.

Etzebeth has denied any wrongdoing and for now remains part of the South African squad.

South African Rugby said on Thursday it would abide by the jurisdiction of the Equality Court and confirmed it had instituted an "internal process" to address the issue.

Etzebeth, in a statement following the August incident, denied any abuse.

"It is completely untrue and unfounded to claim that I physically or racially abused anyone in Langebaan. Multiple witnesses can corroborate that," he said.

SA Rugby says it reaffirms its commitment as a "good corporate citizen" to abide by any requirements placed on it and its employees by South African authorities.

"We have fulfilled all requests to date and will continue to do so as and when advised," it said in a statement.

"Following our discussions with the South African Human Rights Commission we have instituted an internal process to address the matter, the details of which remain an employment matter between SA Rugby and the player."

The Equality Court can hear cases even if state authorities decline to prosecute and usually hand out fines or community service.

The timing of Wednesday's announcement by the SAHRC will be of some concern to Springbok coach Rassie Erasmus, coming two days before arguably the biggest match for the Boks since their World Cup semi-final against New Zealand in 2015.

South Africa, one of the pre-tournament favourites, must beat Italy on Friday to stay in contention for a quarter-final place and Etzebeth is a key member of their forward pack. 



PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Oct 2019, 07:45
#52
04 Oct 2019, 07:45#52

But Malema can say...

"We are not calling for white genocide...yet."

A government official can say...

"We should do to whites what the Nazis did to the Jews."

All he had to do was pay a small fine. Didn't even get fired.

HRC?

Honourless Radical Cunts

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Oct 2019, 08:50
#53
04 Oct 2019, 08:50#53

The South African Human Right Commission (SAHRC) will approach the Equality Court on Friday to ask it to hear what amounts to a civil case, a date for which will only be set later.

State prosecutors have yet to decide whether there is a case to answer.

The Equality Court can hear cases even if state authorities decline to prosecute and usually hand out fines or community service.


Politically motivated boendoehof = kangaroo court.


Either the this has been covered up by the local police and prosecutors, or the HRC is overreacting.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Oct 2019, 21:10
#54
05 Oct 2019, 21:10#54

Please pardon the vulgar language, but to me this was very funny!

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
05 Oct 2019, 21:21
#55
05 Oct 2019, 21:21#55

Can you translate for me? 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Oct 2019, 21:34
#56
05 Oct 2019, 21:34#56

Google  is your friend.

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
05 Oct 2019, 21:37
#57
05 Oct 2019, 21:37#57

I'm a lazy man my friend and it looks like a jumble of letters anyway. I cant be arsed to type it out. Let me in on the joke. I want to belong sooo bad! hahahaha

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Oct 2019, 21:52
#58
05 Oct 2019, 21:52#58

Translation -

Cuntslaps in Cape Town... hugs in Japan

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
05 Oct 2019, 21:54
#59
05 Oct 2019, 21:54#59

Thanks Plum. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Oct 2019, 21:55
#60
05 Oct 2019, 21:55#60

Ask Draad what the specific word for "sky" is in Afrikaans.

Tell him he can't cheat and use air or heaven.  

;)

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
05 Oct 2019, 22:12
#61
05 Oct 2019, 22:12#61

I'm thinking, how bad can this be, but Afrikaans seems to be a pretty funny language so here goes nothing... Draad, what is the specific word for sky?? 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Oct 2019, 08:29
#62
06 Oct 2019, 08:29#62

I must confess a blond moment here. Sky=lug(air) or hemel(the heavens)....but that's cheating???

I know English speaking people get upset when we Afrikaans people talk about taking sides, but I can't think of a rude word for sky ATM

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Oct 2019, 08:42
#63
06 Oct 2019, 08:42#63

Haha Draad

Lug = air

Hemel = heaven

Sky = ?

The sky is beautiful today.

Die ______ is pragtig vandag .

You can't put lug or hemel in there, right?

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Oct 2019, 11:20
#64
06 Oct 2019, 11:20#64

OK, so there is no proper translation?...like "lekker" en "gesin" .

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
08 Oct 2019, 13:38
#65
08 Oct 2019, 13:38#65

" Contrary to what some of the stinking liars on this forum will tell you, I'm no fan of BEE, Affirmative Action, quotas or whatever you want to call it . . . it's just apartheid in reverse as far as I'm concerned . . . but the real question to be asked here is just how stupid you have to be to get involved in something like this and to be assaulting people and calling them "hotnots" when you're a professional sportsman and it's just weeks before the showpiece event of your sport?


Before Eben's hordes of fanboys start screeching that he's innocent, yes, he's innocent until proven guilty and he deserves a chance to defend himself but the fact that the Human Rights Commission have had a chance to review the available evidence and interviewed Etzebeth himself and have still decided to go ahead and have the case heard at the Equality Court should tell even the most strident and one-eyed Ebenistas that this is not just someone making up a story on social media to try and get some attention. This is serious.  "

Of course this utter racist is as guilty as hell. He has racist written all over him, as you can clearly see.





DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Oct 2019, 14:36
#66
08 Oct 2019, 14:36#66

I hear someone threw a brick/stone through Eben's Mustang window. I also hear that the gun was pointed by one of the members of the other party. Someone in Eben's party disarmed the gun-wielder and repeatedly hit that person over the head with his own gun.

Unfortunately the H-word was used by various members of the "Eben Group", quite possibly Eben too.

I also hear that nothing would have come of the incident until someone told the "victims" that there was money to be made.


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Oct 2019, 14:41
#67
08 Oct 2019, 14:41#67

Yep it's the money they are after. 

If they pulled a gun their case should go nowhere. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Oct 2019, 14:44
#68
08 Oct 2019, 14:44#68

The biggest supporter of quotas was the spineless jelly baby rooibozo. Until it turned and worked against his son. The it was wailing and nashing of teeth. 

Naturally rooibozo is against Eben. He has always hated Eben. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Oct 2019, 15:03
#69
08 Oct 2019, 15:03#69

Beenz, lots of conflicting drunken stories going around. It will depend on the evidence...and if there was any??? It would be a tragedy if he misses out on further RWC matches on baseless allegations....and if he's guilty, he will get his dues when he comes home.

Where there is smoke, there's fire. I think he might have crossed the line after severe provocation, but someone in his shoes should have avoided the situation when it became apparent where things were heading.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Oct 2019, 15:10
#70
08 Oct 2019, 15:10#70
All things must be taken into account but will they.If he gets any ban from SARU go overseas and make some real money. 
RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
08 Oct 2019, 15:28
#71
08 Oct 2019, 15:28#71

that afrikaans sounds like a romantic language...

whats a good pick up line?

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
08 Oct 2019, 15:35
#72
08 Oct 2019, 15:35#72
“ Unfortunately the H-word was used by various members of the "Eben Group", quite possibly Eben too. “ And that word is waaaaay more deadly than a bullet.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Oct 2019, 16:26
#73
08 Oct 2019, 16:26#73
The new South Africa.....you can't swear at a chap when he is pointing a gun at you......HasBeen that's a perfect diagnosis of Peeper's hypocrisy.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Oct 2019, 16:54
#74
08 Oct 2019, 16:54#74

Red, this one always works...

Hou jy van brandy?


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
08 Oct 2019, 17:10
#75
08 Oct 2019, 17:10#75

"The biggest supporter of quotas was the spineless jelly baby rooibozo. Until it turned and worked against his son. The it was wailing and nashing of teeth"

So, is this where all Piss Mint's pent up anger and hatred comes from?...……..

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Oct 2019, 19:17
#76
08 Oct 2019, 19:17#76
I've told both Baboon-ou and Klown that they are lying through their teeth regarding my son and his alleged job-application that failed because of his skin colour.
I asked both Klown and Baboon-ou to put up the proof that I said anything of the sort and both scuttled away as fast as their little legs would carry them. 
Now, after I've called Baboon-ou out for his lie and the weak-arsed coward couldn't back it up with anything of substance, he perpetuates the same stinking lie while low-class, stupid and gullible people like DumbAss just lap it up.
If anyone can find a post of mine where I said anything about my son being the victim of BEE then put it up and shame me. Failing that, shut your lying cakehole. DumbAss should know better given that the lifeless loser maintains an extensive database of everything I've ever said on these boards.
My son only ever applied for one job in his life and he got it . . . the dream job that pays well, suits his love of sport and gives him a lot of scope to grow either nationally or internationally.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Oct 2019, 19:49
#77
08 Oct 2019, 19:49#77

Rooi, I almost lost all respect for you a few months back...regardless of that, the story of your son rings no bells.

 I've got a memory like an elephant and I've been posting on Supersport, Supersupporter and here since 2008/2009 and I can't recall you mentioning your son other than a member of your favorite rugby team ever, so it must be something that happened before that?....FWIW anyway.


Waiting for snarky remark...1...2...3...

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Oct 2019, 09:26
#78
10 Oct 2019, 09:26#78

SAHRC: WE WANT ETZEBETH TO PLAY, WE WANT BOKS TO WIN RWC

The South African Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) said that it was probing claims that comments by its legal head Buang Jones could prejudice an investigation into the Eben Etzebeth racism allegations.

The commission has confirmed it's asked Jones to refrain from commenting on the issue while the probe was underway.

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