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Classical Lambie

Started by Mozart22 REPLIES372 VIEWS· 24 Feb 2017, 19:09
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Feb 2017, 19:09
#1
24 Feb 2017, 19:09#1
The man kicks everything....except the relatively simple kick to win the game. Love his comment 'we were just not good enough, couldn't get the ball over the line". No mea culpa there No new news here. Du preez is still dumb muscle...George Smith still 10 times the player, the mamoth du Toit still can scrum, Reinach still bumbles away .... that stupid offside on the Reds goal line and knock on at the base. Lambie is a fullback, Esterhozen a flank and Bosch instead of Willie? You can't be serious!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Feb 2017, 20:22
#2
24 Feb 2017, 20:22#2
  What was expected - but the normal BS abounds.    Reinach kicked the ball 11 times i and passed it 27 tomes.   He normally only kicked when the Shark were under pressure.
 George Smith was average at best.  He was lucky he did not get a yellow card - nearly with the constant penalties he gave away cost the Reds the game.   Smith is in fact way passed it and gas become a penalty liability.   He only made 5 tackles and missed one.   That makes him a top loosie - dumbo?    
Did you watch the game?   How can you be so dumb you could not see what was happening.        
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Feb 2017, 20:26
#3
24 Feb 2017, 20:26#3
I saw Lambie miss the last kick, George Smith dangerously break through du Preez and Reinach get penalized on the Reds line. You apparently saw none of those things.
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lunaticClub Pro305 posts
24 Feb 2017, 20:51
#4
24 Feb 2017, 20:51#4
 Agree Mozart.  They have funny millennial haircuts and still make silly mistakes.  Reinach is a liability. Shame, Lambie ... No difference between du Preez and Dysel, he's just a younger version, all brawn and no brain..
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Feb 2017, 21:04
#5
24 Feb 2017, 21:04#5
 Mozart
 And what about Smith's low tackle count and his missing a tackle as well.   Smith is not a real asset anymore - he is dead average at this stage.   Mo wonder his English Club contract was nit renewed.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Feb 2017, 21:43
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24 Feb 2017, 21:43#6
Well if Smith is a liability it's even more embarrassing that he was able to run right through Deysel er du Preez, the flavour of the day youngster a year ago. I remember all the gushing about these du Preez twins, and I advised caution. But that was not PC. Lunatic I concur on the Deysel an.alogy......but at least Deysel was a strong runner with the ball.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Feb 2017, 02:00
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25 Feb 2017, 02:00#7
 It is only a fool who assess the performance of a player based on one or even two ball carries in a game - the question is what did he do in the whole game in all facets of play.
I know your praise song would be forthcoming since Smith is 36 years old - the age psycho at work.    
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Feb 2017, 02:27
#8
25 Feb 2017, 02:27#8
What facet did you have in mind Tokkie? How about defenders beaten....Smith beat 5, more than any other player on the park.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Feb 2017, 03:15
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25 Feb 2017, 03:15#9
 He made two significant carries during the whole game.   His tackle count for a loosie was way below par and those three penalties he gave away was totally unacceptable.
When the second Sharks try was awarded - he grabbed a Sharks player around the neck to take him out of the maul.    The awarding of the try avoided another penalty and a certain yellow card.   
In the end Smith slowed down massively - he is not the player he used to be.  I think he should play as a blindsider - he is too slow to be an opensider.    
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Feb 2017, 04:17
#10
25 Feb 2017, 04:17#10
Same number as your pick Raainacht.....except George was effective. Great player.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Feb 2017, 04:41
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25 Feb 2017, 04:41#11
 Used to be a great player - he is in serious decline and the dumbo compare his carries with that of a scrummie - what a joke,
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Feb 2017, 04:50
#12
25 Feb 2017, 04:50#12
 No plank, I'm comparing his penalties.....comparing runs George had 11 for 40 metres/5 defenders beaten....Raainacht had 2 for 4 metres/no defenders beaten. It's not much of a comparison.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Feb 2017, 05:47
#13
25 Feb 2017, 05:47#13
 So thickness it is fair to compare the carries of a loosie in traffic with those of a scrummie.   That is the dimmest comment I have seen for years.   That is also why your assessment of player performances is such a joke. 
So the three penalties is just forgotten - that is what nearly cost the Reds the match.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Feb 2017, 06:10
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25 Feb 2017, 06:10#14
Well just to give you the benefit of the doubt I checked an Aussie forum. This is what they think... ....... the young gun #6 will benefit more and more from Master George Smith (super game) . LikeReply Dean Kennedy Dean Kennedy from Facebook6 hours ago George Smith, still got it, he was everywhere, I thought there was two of him out there.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Feb 2017, 07:17
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25 Feb 2017, 07:17#15
 You remain the dumbest rugby assessor I have come across.   So you look at the Aussie site to get an assessment of an Aussie player.  Great idea for Dumbo's. 
So the carries count - the unacceptable penalties and lo tackle count means zero.   What a joke.    The 6 was a better player on the day in any event.
By the way does stats only count when it fits your book and should otherwise be ignored? 
TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
25 Feb 2017, 09:47
#16
25 Feb 2017, 09:47#16
 Learn to read stupidMaaik...

Mozart: "No plank, I'm comparing his penalties..."

You cam also read that as Snith comceded three (3) and Remaich conceded three (3).
(Typos inserted on putpose, because that's how you seem to spell stuff... Maybe you umderstand it netter that way?!?!?)

And then you say "You remain the dumbest rugby assessor I have come across.", but also say "So thickness it is fair to compare the carries of a loosie in traffic with those of a scrummie."

Just analyse what you said there and realise that you destroyed your own argument.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Feb 2017, 11:39
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25 Feb 2017, 11:39#17
 Listen - I had enough of the BS of Mozart and his dumbo cronies.   I never said Reinach had a good game - I only corrected the dumb plank about Reinach having kicked away balls all the time. 
The issue I discussed was the Smith myth conjured up by the dumbo.   He is running after age again and found Smith to be another ideal player of his.  
No plank - compare a scrummie's performance with that of a loosie is just about the dumbest comparison anyone can make - but then Mozart and his cronies are chronically dumb and knows nothing about rugby. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Feb 2017, 13:26
#18
25 Feb 2017, 13:26#18
 Glad I missed the match.Although reports say Sharks didn't deserve to win match it appears the down under bent ref syndrome was on display again:atrick Lambie missed a difficult late penalty, with just three minutes left on the clock at the time, that would have won the Sharks the match, and they should also feel a little aggrieved at the Tuttle try for it looked suspiciously like there was a forward pass from Reds flyhalf Quade Cooper in the build-up to the scything midfield break that created the score.
Same old, same old Yaaaaaawn!
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Feb 2017, 13:40
#19
25 Feb 2017, 13:40#19
 Could Rob Houwing's article provide a more balanced assessment to the sharks game. 

Cape Town – It is less than ideal to start your campaign on the back foot, as the Sharks have just done in Super Rugby 2017, but they would also be silly to succumb to any unnecessarily drawn-out moping.

The men from Durban, who had held the lead in Brisbane’s subtropical warmth for generous periods, eventually succumbed 28-26 to the Reds in an engrossing enough fixture.

Considering that the Queenslanders notched four tries to two and that Quade Cooper’s place-kicking was more than a bit flaky at times, there could be no major reason to quibble with the outcome, although the Sharks did fully warrant their losing bonus point.(One Reds try appears to have been Dubious!!)


It is clear that the 2011 champions, in the doldrums in more recent times, have set their sights determinedly on revival and they may prove tough nuts for several other sides to crack at Suncorp Stadium this year.

So the Sharks – not especially used to game one of their roster being overseas -- still have every reason for optimism as they move onward to Canberra and the relative luxury of an eight-day turnaround to next Saturday’s second and final Australian tour match against the Brumbies, who have shed certain key characters and aren’t hugely tipped to be the force of old in 2017.

There was, after all, some contentiousness about the game-tilting try by James Tuttle in the 71stminute, with a suggestion of a forward pass in the build-up.

Then the tourists had a chance with three minutes left to snatch back the lead, only for their previously unerring flyhalf and captain Pat Lambie to drift a long, challenging penalty attempt wide to the right.

Apart from that moment, Lambie had been one of several Sharks players to look keen and sharp – a particularly healthy sign as his comeback games toward the end of last season after his horrible concussion against Ireland had seen him too often tentative and innocuous.

The 26-year-old skipper was a bastion of personal assuredness at No 10, showing a willingness not to be caught “in the pocket” too much, and also engaged shrewdly and alertly with referee Nick Briant whenever necessary.

It may not be quite a fait accompli, if Lambie continues his reawakening, that fit-again Handre Pollard of the Bulls simply waltzes back into the national shirt at all-important pivot in mid-year.

When the Sharks tackle the Brumbies, coach Robert du Preez may well urge his charges to try to boss territory and possession a bit more – they only got some 44 percent of the ball on Friday – as they were kept busy in the tackling department throughout.

Still, Lambie made a reasonable point in his immediate on-field interview afterwards that he didn’t feel late-game fatigue was a reason for the reverse; many of the Sharks players appear in a pretty sound state of conditioning.

There is some work yet to be done in making their lineout more clinical, and at critical times passes were irritatingly spilled as they tried to launch speedy hand-to-hand offensives.

But there was also decent collective zeal, industry and bright support play by the Sharks for generous periods, including a gutsy and creative showing from raw outside centre Lukhanyo Am.

He is not the biggest No 13 you will ever see, and that can be a drawback in defence near his own line, although he could hardly be faulted for commitment as muscular, Fijian-born opposite number Samu Kerevi barrelled over for two tries.(Oop anthoer small little oak not up to the big time?)

Locks Ruan Botha and Etienne Oosthuizen put in busy, physical shifts in the tight-loose, up against seasoned Wallabies in Rob Simmons and Kane Douglas, and Jean-Luc du Preez – apart from romping over for a breakaway try as early as the second minute – also demonstrated a decent engine and ceaseless leg-drive at blindside flank.

The Sharks may be nought-from-one, but there is plenty to work with … 
Is the good Doctor too pessimistic and criti cal one wonders
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Feb 2017, 14:55
#20
25 Feb 2017, 14:55#20
 The good doctor hate certain players with a vengeance and he would go for them - while leaving out the comments on some really problematic players and he makes unsubstantiated comments on the players he dislikes.   That has always been the c ase so his player performance evaluation has been and will always be a farce.    
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XaviPro1,924 posts
25 Feb 2017, 20:42
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25 Feb 2017, 20:42#21
 Unsubstantiated like Morne Steyns move to PSG maybe???
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Feb 2017, 21:49
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25 Feb 2017, 21:49#22
Pretty soon Lambie wont have missed the kick....that's how one eyed our media is. It was a challenging kick, it was to win the game....that was the on;y difference between that and other kicks Lambie made. He ended up with a steer job, never released through the ball and pushed it right....those who have played golf know the feeling. He bottled out.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Feb 2017, 22:02
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25 Feb 2017, 22:02#23
 Lambie was definitely better than Jantjies and Pollard - but none of the three made my team of the week.  
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