Cynical, Ireland didn't come to play

Mallet had a proper rant about how Ireland just went out of their way to spoil the game.

This is a good video pointing out the culprit.

King of corn well done for posting the video I have already posted. It's a great video and very educative to members of the brain dead Mamparas Union.

The Irish cheated to keep the score down. In the end they humiliated themselves and their supporters.

It was a dark day for Irish rugby. I expected a lot more from them.

I fully support the spirited Irish people in their fight against the invasion of their country and wish them a total victory.

Probably the funniest thing is this "fan-voted" Combined Bok/Ireland XV that was posted on the URC's Facebook before the game. Check the props.

Carlen Dorris was the biggest culprit, watch the refs body and how he looks at the game. The ruck with some refs has become a joke.

It shows that you can dish out 6 cards and reduce a team to 12 players. The game becomes a farce. I say if you are cynical in the 5 meter penalty try, but not under the post but where the incident happened and award the try to the infringed player. Still allow for the kick to be taken. So the 5 meter almost becomes a try line. Keep players on field, reduce time wasting and get on with the game.

Mallet also singled out the NZ team of 2011/12 of exactly the same play.

We need to stamp out cynical play, but not with cards

Yes, Ireland conceded a lot of yellow cards, some of them were unnecessary and self inflicted.

But here’s the part the blind cheerleaders refuse to accept: that should have made our job easier, not harder.

We had numerical advantage, scrum dominance, territory, and repeated goal line pressure. And what did we do with it?

Poor decisions. Zero tactical evolution. No creative backline play. No clinical execution. Just the same blunt-force approach over and over with no intelligence applied.

You don’t win test rugby by crying “cheating” every time the opposition pushes the limits.

You win it by capitalising on opportunities. We didn’t. That is not Ireland’s fault. That is a Springbok failing.

Calling a proud rugby nation cheats because they played hard is a disgrace, not patriotism.

It’s the language of people who can’t debate rugby on a tactical level, so they hide behind outrage and fake moral superiority.

Real supporters demand better!!! Groupies clap at mediocrity and blame everyone else.

Arrogance like this is the downfall of so-called “loyal fans”. Accountability is what champions are built on!

"Calling a proud rugby nation cheats because they played hard is a disgrace, not patriotism.

It’s the language of people who can’t debate rugby on a tactical level, so they hide behind outrage and fake moral superiority."

I'm sure Nick Mallet will take that under advisement...

PS, we beat Ireland in Dublin the first time since 2012...yes there are lots of room for improvement, but for now, I'll focus on the positives...11/13....and we really botched the Aussie match and there was only 7 points in it at Eden Park...our best season outside of world cups in many years.

In 2009 we lost 4...Lions, Aus, Frace and Ireland.

Nobody is denying the positives, DB. Beating Ireland in Dublin, finishing 11 from 13, and having one of our best non World Cup seasons in years is something to appreciate.

I acknowledge that.

But being happy with progress and still wanting improvement are not opposing positions.

They exist together in every high-performance environment.

The difference between good and great is the willingness to analyse even when you win.

Pointing out that we failed to fully capitalise on dominance, numerical advantages, and attacking opportunities is not negativity.

It is recognition of areas where this already strong team can become even more lethal.

As for Nick Mallett, regardless of his status, no one is immune from critique.

Tactical debate is part of the game. Disagreement does not equal disrespect.

Celebrating the positives while still identifying shortcomings is not being anti Bok.

It is wanting the Boks to reach their absolute peak. If anything, that is the most sincere form of support!

Mpower

"Poor decisions. Zero tactical evolution. No creative backline play. No clinical execution. Just the same blunt-force approach over and over with no intelligence applied."

You are 100% correct about th e above, I called it Jake-ball - a replica of what happened in the URC final in 2024 against Glasgow, To a lesser extent the same happEned to LeinSter this year.

I was hoping the bsll would go to the Springbok backline on a number of occassions - yet it never happened,

i am also critical of the one attack that was aa definite upcoming try - but Kriel - destroy the chance, He had ample space to pass the ball with an overlap clearl in evidence, Kriel as never the broghtest of playes - in that case he again proved he was a rugby idiot suprerme.

I also believe that Sacha is an extra-gifted player - - but I th ink he overdid kicking in the tpur-matches thsi year. For me is the ebst Springbok flyhalf ever in the history of Sprin gbok ru gby and am sure he will develop even further infuture,

I also to hink that Esterhuizen will turn out a much better loosie than a center, For me h e is the type of loosie ha shuld replace Kolisi as blindside flank in the 2027 RWC squad in crucial matches,

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There are still some deficiencies in the set up that needs review, Personally I think Etzebeth is on the way out.- he has since his alst concussion injury he is not even remotely the playr he sued to be.

The oher player I h ave a problem is is Wiese. He is as thick as a brick and gave away at least penalties in he match against Ireland. I think that Erasmus should wake up and get rid of him and the even bigger clot as a playe than Wiese. With Hanekom and RBoos as loosies t he whole tram will improve,

Yes White was prescient moving Esterhozen to flank…genius

Difference is White only thought about it, never implemented it and it was never as a hybrid it was as a flank

There is no genius in thoughts only execution

Crash goes poor Mozzietard. I had exactly the same thought about White never being able to make Esterhuizen into a genuine hybrid.

Mozzietard doing what he always tries to do namely belittle our great coach.

Mampara Power whining as usual. Does this mampara ever stop. Sigh!

Where do you stay Mampara King?? I will give you the necessary Poes Klap…. We can repeat the treatment on a regular basis as needed:)

Nice!

Ag ooh vader, hannie Jammer Bal!:)

I mean, even uncle Mike saw how toxic this individual is, by getting "Beeno’s Trumpet “ removed, in fear of retribution.

The reason is because of the truck load of shit this fake Christian spreads…

Honestly sad and pathetic individual that is only on Ruckers to attack people for having different ideas…

What does that remind you of??

"What does that remind you of??"

You.

Constantly complaining about Maaik, Saffex, RooiTit and Beenz, yet you do even worse when it suits you...and then you love painting others with the hypocrisy brush. Take a step back and look in the mirror.

Mozart

White tried playing Esterhuizen as a loosie twice in matches and he went out of the Sharks teams when White as coach of the Sharks, White was only nterested in playing Jake-ball - for him backline play was an abomination never to be used in matches.

Erasmus has stared usibng Esterhuizen as a loosie this year a number of occassion and twice as a loosie movin g b ack to center hen the Opposiion was ball possession was likely to happen. Erasnus see Esterhuizen as a loosie - not as a backline attacking asset,

Calling me a hypocrite doesn’t make it true, it just proves you’re avoiding the facts and being a dishonest Fake!

If you claim I “attack people first”, then prove it. Point out where I initiated personal abuse without provocation??

What I do is debate rugby, tactics, and performance. What certain posters do is label people “Mamparas”, mock, swear, and deliberately provoke anyone who doesn’t echo their opinions.

That is not debate. That is harassment.

There is a clear difference between responding to an attack and initiating one. If someone comes at me with insults, yes, I respond.

That is not hypocrisy, that is self-defense. The hypocrisy lies in ignoring repeated behaviour from the usual offenders while suddenly pretending to take the moral high ground when it suits your narrative.

If you truly wanted fairness, you’d call out all sides equally. Instead, you selectively wag your finger only when it’s convenient, which makes your position inconsistent and weak.

So again, show me where I started personal attacks unprovoked.

If you can’t, then perhaps the mirror you’re suggesting I look into would be better placed in front of you.

Debate rugby. Challenge opinions. But don’t rewrite reality to protect habitual aggressors while pretending to be a voice of reason.

That’s not balance. That’s fence sitting dressed as fake principle!!

I have ou Mampara Power on a string. He. knows what I am saying is true and he is having his 19th nervous break down.

Take your meds loon and a nice glass of warm milk.

1. "If you claim I “attack people first”, " I didn't say that.
2. "What I do is debate rugby, tactics, and performance. What certain posters do is label people “Mamparas”, mock, swear, and deliberately provoke anyone who doesn’t echo their opinions...and then you threaten violence on Beenz in an obscene way. :-)
3. If you truly wanted fairness, you’d call out all sides equally. Instead, you selectively wag your finger only when it’s convenient, which makes your position inconsistent and weak. As do you, hence...and I am consistent as a hobgoblin.
4. So again, show me where I started personal attacks unprovoked. I never said you started anything, but you partake tit for tat and then somehow claim some non-existent moral high ground.

Lighten up, you come across slightly unhinged.

Difference is White only thought about it, never implemented it and it was never as a hybrid it was as a flank

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So White was the genius who saw the potential and Dr Lucky merely the implementer of the idea. Would this even have occurred to Lucky, a man whose team is still full of players introduced by predecessors? Doubtful.

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DB, calling someone “unhinged” because they push back against ongoing mocking and provocation is lazy and dishonest.

The hypocrisy is simple: certain posters repeatedly label people mamparas, loons and worse for having different views.

When that gets challenged, suddenly the person speaking up is framed as the problem. That is backwards.

My post to Has Been was clearly contextual and partly sarcastic.

Anyone acting in good faith could see that, especially with the smiley face at the end:)

The broader point was about a pattern of aggressive behaviour that has already caused enough trouble for his political section to be renamed.

That history didn’t come from nowhere.

DB, stop pretending this forum doesn’t have a long standing problem with personal attacks and then gaslight those who point it out.

If that makes you uncomfortable, that’s not instability. That’s accountability.

"The broader point was about a pattern of aggressive behaviour that has already caused enough trouble for his political section to be renamed."

You are much more aggressive than anyone else on here...there's a difference between aggression and being a rude prick...aggressive rude prick being even worse...glass houses...throwing stones...you know what I'm talking about...get offyour high horse voor jy af doner en jou arm breek.

PS...I don’t call you names, I don't theeaten anyone...I don’t beat my chest...I didn't even call you a hypocrite...I'm asking you to take a step and look at your own behavior...you recognize what I'm hinting at and yet you seem to be trying to justify it...somehow in your mind, it's OK if you do it...

DB, let’s be clear. You accuse me of being an “aggressive rude prick” while simultaneously issuing a metaphorical threat.

You telling me to watch out before I fall off my high horse and break my arm. How is that not aggressive?

How is that not exactly the behaviour you’re accusing me of?

Practice what you preach….

You criticise me for responding to ongoing attacks, yet you engage in personal attacks and threats yourself.

If you want credibility in this discussion, the first step is to stop misrepresenting others and examine your own behaviour.

Until then, calling me “rude” or “aggressive” only highlights your inability to debate facts without resorting to insult and veiled threats.

Keep your mouth shut if you can’t do better!

Mampara power you are extremely rude and stupidly aggressive.

As I said take your meds, get an nice coloring in book and enjoy your warm glass of. milk.

I will be calling out Mamparas and all their anti Bok anti Rassie BS.

As for my politics I have my finger on the pulse as the years have proved.

I should post more political pieces as the lefty lunatics are in bad need of education.

I wonder if someone as ignorant as Mampara Power knows what a sea change in views is taking place in the West. Globalism is on tbe retreat as Peoe try to take back their countries.

Unfortunately I have only so much time to waste talking to Mamparas so I can't promise too much.

When I joined this forum in September 2021, I did not come here looking for conflict.

The hostility and fighting culture on this site existed long before my time.

The turning point came when certain posters began swearing at me and attacking me, and others chose to jump in instead of addressing that behaviour.

Now I am being labelled as “the most aggressive” simply because I refuse to sit quietly and allow myself to be used as a punching bag.

That is not aggression, that is defending myself.

There are posters on this forum who regularly use extreme insults, swear at people, and degrade others far worse than anything I have ever said.

That behaviour is brushed off as “oh, that’s just how they are”.

Yet when I stand my ground in a direct but controlled manner, I suddenly become the problem.

I will not accept being gaslighted, insulted, or misrepresented for the sake of keeping the peace for fence-sitters, like yourself.

If fairness is being preached, then it must apply to everyone, and not only when it is convenient.

If defending myself is seen as a problem, then perhaps the issue is not my tone, but the selective standards being applied.

Well said M. Pay no attention to these needy types who have failed so miserably in their lives that attacking others is the main reason they come back to Ruckers

Has been, are you kidding yourself, or what are you actually smoking?

Before I joined this forum, you’ve spent decades belittling, mocking, and preaching from a supposed moral high ground that doesn’t exist.

Who gives you the right to say the things you do?

Just because I call out your behaviour doesn’t mean I’m attacking indiscriminately.

No one is saying you cannot call people out, but there’s a proper, orderly way to do it, without insults, mockery, or personal jabs.

Treat people respectfully, and maybe they won’t respond the way I do.

Now you and others, also DB, cry and feel butt hurt, because you’re finally receiving a dose of your own medicine.

That’s the main point: the behaviour you’ve normalized for decades is being reflected back, and you don’t like it!!

Needy se gat, he needs to start practicing what he preaches...or accept he's no different than the rest of us....threatening to dish out PKs nogal! Lol!...who else does that? GRRR!!!

"Before I joined this forum, you’ve spent decades belittling, mocking, and preaching from a supposed moral high ground that doesn’t exist."

Issit, and you know this how?

Defending yourself is to be expected if you are subject to unprovoked attacks…whether you personally may agree with the likes of Rhonda and Hasbeen or not. It’s called a sense of fair play, a sense you seem to entirely lack. It seems to be a cultural miss

The "PK" post was a dry Humor joke…smiley included…

Yet here we have Draad, lecturing me about threats while consistently ignoring the daily abuse and attacks from others on this forum.

Hypocrisy much? Maybe start practicing what you preach instead of pretending my harmless humor is a crime:)

"Issit, and you know this how?"

Well DB, it’s a matter of public record on this forum. There are a plethora of posts where Has Been and others have belittled, insulted, and mocked people for their opinions, long before I joined in 2021.

That’s not my opinion, it’s verifiable by reading the threads.

I joined later and reacted only to ongoing hypocrisy and attacks directed at me and my crew.

Dry and harmless humor my big fat arse, you're blind to your own hypocrisy...you give out at least as much as what you receive, yet you whinge on about it incessantly like a wee todler...grow up man! Defending yourself LOL...you are what you despise, only with different wrapping...and you can't see it.

"Well DB, it’s a matter of public record on this forum. There are a plethora of posts where Has Been and others have belittled, insulted, and mocked people for their opinions, long before I joined in 2021."

Yes, and you've researched them in particular pre 21 and decided you've got an axe to grind alll by the way?...horse sh!t.

DB, it’s laughable that you lecture me about “growing up” when you’re the biggest child on this forum, whining because I call out blatant hypocrisy and abuse.

You deliberately ignore the real pattern here: Has Been and others have been belittling, mocking, and attacking posters for a long time , before I ever joined in 2021.

You act like it’s all new to me, yet refuse to acknowledge the source of the toxicity. You calling me “what I despise” is an outright lie.

Yet again I ask you to prove where I provoke, defame, or attack anyone without reason!

And no, I don’t need to read back thousands of posts to see a clear pattern.

Besides, it’s still happening on a daily basis…Honestly are you really this biased and naïve??

You're full of sh!t...you're actually lecturing yourself...cheers!

Thanks DB, Merry Christmas to you too…

Look DB has never attacked Clever the way he attacks other posters on here…it’s all about the volk.