Dave are you still picking England

 All your preconditions for an English win....starting with Jean, Habana  and Morne ....will be met. A simple yes or no will do.....no double talk please.

Not meant for me - but I predict a first test loss in this case.   Whether it depends on Meyer waking up  will determine the outcome of the rest.

Yes we will lose.................I like Meyers squad, but I dont like his test 15. Kirchner, Habana, Jean, Morne, J.Kruger and Alberts should not be starting. Its a conservative selection, I dont like conservative

 @ Saf - I agree with you i think we will lose the first test. however i don't think it will have anything to do with the players selected. Mostly i think it will have everything to do with the cohesiveness of the team. Second test The influence f Meyer will start and i have more hope or us. This team has enough to beat England, the question only remains if they can play like a team after bieng to gether for only 6 days.

 Saffex, go play the lotto - you will be an instant millionair with your vision and insight.

You should play russian roulette but be sure to fill the chambers

With our probable team we have the players to win, but we haven't had enough time to prepare and I reckon that will be our achilies heel....I still reckon we will win the first games, because we are better....

 I really hope so Bluebok. but as i said I don't have high hopes :)

Too many imponderables to make a call so confidently like some are doing.
Everything is in Englands favour apart from it being an away game and of course history.   But can you easily write off the Boks at home to England.

Go Bokke give too the poms!!  Bokke by 10!!! 

Lets hope so Beenkop

Yes its not nice tat all o lose to the poms. We will also have sitting bull and brycy all over us like a rash! hahahahahaha ou firmest critics  - watch out for Fred Sponge and Hakwa as well!

The guys must play hard and smart for 80 minutes. Its the smart part that worries me. But realistically one should not expect too many fireworks. Meyer will just be hoping to do the basics right  - set pieces etc. Play in their half, slot the penalties and run off good ball and tackle hard and accuurately. Discipline will be vital. Just good basic uncomplicated rugby.

This is enought to win and mostly depends on the forwards getting on top. Morne has the experience to play this sort of game Meyer wants. There is enough experience and talent to win but rugby is a team game and that is a concern give the short preparation time.

I look forward to seeing the trimmed down Frans at 12 - he could be a big factor (Also long distance penalties/drops!). I would not be surprised to see Jean flourish and then of course the wings come into play. Hababa is playing well and JP although bit slow is still dangerous near the line (Sapster the guy has always been short of a yard). Hougaard must take on the opposition at times not simply pass. Needs to get stuck in. Spiesies must be on Coetzee's shoulder to continue the drive and Alberts must decide he is there to give 100% - ditto Beast. With these two its mental preparation. I think Meyer can motivate. Get these two oaks fired up!!!

Wonder if Rassie has been involved.

I hardly think Hougaard needs an invitation to get stuck it, its what he does best. Disagree on JP, there has never been an issue with his pace

Well it's literally going to depend on the bounce of the rugby ball.....because we will probably kick 30 up and unders. The backline and the front row will be ok. The risks are the back 5 in the pack....huge, huge unknown there. And of course Kirchner is another lucky packet.

This is a game of chance. But it's nice to see the Sapp still pushing the youth angle afte the Baby Boks he talked up, crashed yesterday. A lesser man would have tempered his views.

 Yes, kick the ball into the hands of Tuilagi and watch him run over Kirchner and co.

If you want to win - keep ball in hand and attack the advantage line.  this silly kicking away of posession is really stupid.

Moz dont put words in my mouth. I talked up Kitshoff, Kebble, Willemse, Botha, Steph du Toit, Serfontien, Howard and Jordaan of the Bok U20's as they were the only 8 of the 28 I knew anything about. I had also read that Liebenberg their captain was a real talent.

What I witnessed yesterday was that clearly the side has many passengers, players I knew nothing about and have said not a word about, so dont talk crap when it comes to what I said about the Baby Boks

 Baby Boks could have won if:

Goosen played. - They had a decent game plan and stuck to it. - their management staff did some homework on the Irish.  some of those youngsters played their hearts out but you need 15 players not a hand full.  There is a problem with handling skills and decision making - all because of the way they are coached, so some blame must go the way of Davie and Venter.  Maybe the next game will be better.  I just hope we do not need to play the young ABs soon.

 Well next game is Italy, they should win that, and if they want to make a statement they should thrash italy, They have the manpower to do it. Then the last game is againt England which we have never beaten in this competition ever. So yes it's a tough ride now. Just cause they lost to Ireland.