Dave back to the Moojati files

Ah CC as rugby ignorant as ever

Thing with Mujati was that he represents just another missed opportunity......not only was he a class tighthead, he was black......but good old Meyer as he has done with so many players......missed out on a golden opportunity to invest in a quality black player, who at Saints as Vlag correctly points out, along with Tonga and Hartley proved to be the best frontrow in the game while playing together for Saints.

Useless Meyer missed out on so many......Combrink, Ulengo, Kolbe, Senatla, Vorster, Venter, Jantjies, Goosen, Faf, Kitshoff, Willemse, Jacques du Plessis, Jaco Kriel......the list is endless

So Vlag are you saying useless Meyer could not select Mujati because he was playing in England?

Yeah Moz that will be CJ the guy that was names Munster player of the year and Ireland player of the year in the same year.

Thanks for reminding me......CJ has to go to the top of the list in terms of useless Meyer's out of touch misses.

Quinn Roux, the guy that is in the Ireland training squad to tour SA? 

Keep them coming

Let me guess Moz, you still don't rate CJ.....bwhaaahaaaaa

There has been egg in its time on this site but your call on CJ wins hands down

1. According to government policy he would not have been able to play. He was not a permanent resident of the country any more and he would therefore have had to meet with residency requirements to be considered for an SA passport. The difference between him  and Beast was that Beast never left the country. He moved to SA and was working there and remained there. He already had permanent residency in SA and  was still in  the country, making him illegible for citizenship. I am not sure  of the exact conditions  but I assume  that it is more or less the same everywhere. In the UK, as you probably know, you have to be in the country on a long term visa for  at least five years before becoming eligible for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR). Once you have ILR, you have to wait another 12 months before you can apply for citizenship. That is in a broad sense. There are ways that it can be shorter than 6 years in total  but those are the exception , rather than the rule. There is a catch, though. If you are out of the country for more than a certain amount of days during your stay on a visa, your five year countdown starts all over again. That means  that permanent residency status alone  does not qualify you for  citizenship. You actually have certain periods of physical presence in the country as well. That is where Mujati would have missed the boat.
2. Nobody even know whether he would have wanted to play for SA, even if it was possible. Saying that he would have would, once again, have been pure speculation. Particularly in view of the animosity towards him due to his father's history in Zim.

What utter crap, he had already won a few caps for the Boks so why on earth would he not have been able to continue in that vain. Once you have played for a country the horse has bolted in that regard.

In an interview he said he would loved to have played for the Boks and would have jumped at the chance. He felt he was being used at the time he was selected as a Bok and wanted to prove his worth

Useless Meyer never had his finger on the pulse so would not have even considered Mujati as he was too stupid

Citizenship controversy an d resolution

Although Mtawarira was fully eligible to play for South Africa under IRB rules, his Zimbabwean nationality was a sticking point in 2009 and 2010. South Africa has a policy of only allowing its nationals to represent the country, although it has been somewhat flexible; the South African Rugby Union (SARU) officially cleared him to play with the Boks in the November 2009 Tests, after receiving clearance from the country's sports minister Makhenkesi Stofile.[4]

More recently, his citizenship was a minor political issue in the country. In January 2010, Buthana Komphela, an ANC member of the National Assembly and chair of its sports committee, publicly threatened to charge the SARU with "illegally" fielding Mtawarira and have him deported to Zimbabwe.[5] Shortly after the threat, Mtawarira told the Sunday Independent,

Later in the year, the South African government reaffirmed its policy that only South African nationals would be allowed to represent the country in international competition, which made Mtawarira unavailable for selection to the Springboks in the June Tests; by that time, his application for South African citizenship had been tied up in red tape. On 25 June 2010, the SARU announced that Minister of Home Affairs Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma had granted Mtawarira's request for South African citizenship. The immediate effect was to make him eligible for selection in the 2010 Tri Nations.[2]