DDA Chasing play

Did anybody else notice how DDA has basically given up on trying to keep up with play?

On so many occasions on Saturday, something happens and the backs make some ground, and old DDA doesn't even try to keep up.

Here is the Williams breakout for the Bok's third try...

Check vir ou Damie. Bro's is chilling but Williams has already travelled 10m. He ends up jogging behind play somewhere in the middle of the field while Williams, Edwil, Nortje Fassi, and ultimately Moodie scroe the try.

Now, for the sake of being objective, below is a pic of DDA doing something right. He crab runs a bit, picks a Georgian defender, draws him, opens up a gap for Koch who offloads to Pollock. He needs to just do more of that. He only ever crash balls, they gang tackle him and steal the ball or slow momentum. It makes no sense to me that he hardly ever bluffs contact and instead commits a defender and then a passes.

His crash ball versus what you see in the pic above ratio is...I'm sure it must be like 8 to 1. I don't get it.

Anyhoos, Williams is nuts. He has mega acceleration and is at minimum in the top 3% of fastest players.

We are asked to believe that Brown has brought, I don't know, something or other to the Bok backplay. What do we have though? Crashball upon crashball, and then the little set move with 10 --> 12 and then 10 wraps around to receive the deep back pass behind from 12 again before spreading it wide. Even the Italians had it just about figured out as they damn near trapped Manie in possession on the wraparound with the Boks first try in the second Italian outing. Oh, and the 3 man skip pass to force our wings out of space, but that was a staple before Brown got involved.

Damian doesn't chase play. The best example of that remains Goodhue accelerating past him in the 2019 RC round 2 match to set up an All Black try when all DDA had to do was stay between Barrett and Goodhue to block the pass. Instead he jogged after play like he was on his way to a lineout.

The B S s always the same - De Allemde must be replaced by Etsterhuizen who never showed any real performnce as test center in tests so they accuse De Allemde of things Esterhuizen specialize in. Real and supreme idiocy supreme.

The site idiots have omly onme topic the write total BS about and that is De Allende - whatever they say represnets about a third of their total site contrbutions And it is total shit they apparently think is true, LMAO .

Pathetic

Thats exactly what I thought, Dave.

I mean, he's so far behind play that he's barely in the shot.

6 crashball runs….time to move on, we can’t improve our backline play with this robot at 12. If we want to play him, stick with the box kicks, nothing new will happen until he is gone. We will be conservative and occasionally Arendse and Kolbe will get turnover ball putting lipstick on the pig.

DA is a class act and he is here to stay until he calls it a day

Best 12 in the game for much of the past 5 years or more

Dave, you have very little credibility left.

You, stamping your foot and making declarations in the face of hard evidence, doesn't mean much.

Why not address the screenshot above and actually comment on why exactly DDA is that slow to react? Why guys like Eben and Nortje are already accelerating while DDA is still completely stationary...standing upright and hasn't even started to react.

And then, if you go and watch the clip you actually see him having given up and being miles behind play. Literally jogging far behind everybody else.

Then I could ask you why he never seems to be there in a breakout. And you'll stamp that little foot and call "bullshit" but when I ask you to go and find the Bok tries resultant from breakouts and to show me the ones where DDA actually kept up with play and was somehow involved in the try...you won't be able to show me any. And this is after 80 tests.

But you'll stomp your little foot and demand we respect your rugby acumen, telling us all what noobs we are.

All the Bok tries are on line, Davie boy. If there was evidence, it would be very easy for you to find.

Now, do you see why you have little/no credibility left?

Plum, you and a few on here's take on DdA is about as credible as Ou Maaik's take on AE...at lest you and Maaik agree on Manie... ;-)

Okay, Draad...

I'll accept your statement.

All I ask is that you take the responsibility and go and find me the tries where DDA kept up with play and had a hand in the try.

If my take is that outrageous, perfect. Something that crazy would be easy to prove wrong.

...will you take the challenge or will you rest on ambiguity?

Nah Draad, major difference is, as in this thread, we provide actual evidence of what we're talking about. Games, plays, anyone can go verify. Ou Maaik just makes shit up. It's not even close to the same thing.

You guys simply don't take the trouble to actually check anything and formulate a cohesive counter argument. At least Dave sometimes does that, when he's not in one of his MOODS :)

I'm not here to argue P&P, but what I do know is that a certain portion of this site's posters have few pet hates...PSDT, Kolisi, DdA and Lood...some on the other side dislike Mostert, New Mostert and ...AE and a few others...if you watch a game with the only purpose of pouncing on a player if he makes a few mistakes, you are gonna find plenty of errors....PSDT had a few massive games when it really counted...all forgotten as soon as you lot see a wee mistake somewhere...and it's been going on for years...same with Beeno's take on Matfield and Moz's pet hate of Jaque Fourie...pure bias backed up by a few anecdotal mistakes...when I see this nonsense I just skip over it without comment most of the time...life is too short...we are and have been No1 in the world more often than not since 2019, yet some on here complain like a bunch of old ladies...it gets to the point that I ignore the nonsense straight up, without even checking the validity of some of the arguments...I simply don't have the time...I've learned over the years to follow my gut...never ever let me down yet...so excuse me if I ignore the constant doom and gloom.

Go Bokke!

And there you go, Draad, off into the land of ambiguity.

I laid down a simply challenge.

Pakie and Plum

Whenever you two comes up with anything it is not based on facts - it is based on shit you dream up. So I aslk you if Esterhuizen I cannot remember any other center in the History of Springbok rugby after 20 tests has not scored a single try - neither assist in scorng of a try. I cannot remember a lock pushed off the ball at breakdowns by back line players. His performances in tests often puts the Springboks at a disadvanrage and in 2019 where abckline players ran strai ght through piss poor tackling attempts - which Mozart and piss brain Pakie blamed on Du Toit, who happened to cover t he next player in the attacking line near enough to the scene for Mozart and you to blame Du Toit for the Mostert failures,

When people differ from your shit Pakie accused me of the same thing he is guilty about on site,

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Now Draad that’s believable….you ‘follow’ your gut. First the gut enters the room….wait for it, wait for it…then the rest of Draad makes an appearance.

Ja, ja Moz, ridicule and belittle all you like...it's no skin off my back...and no matter how much you deride and belittle my Bokke, I still enjoy my rugby...and although we will slip off the crest again sometime in the near future, I'm eenjoying the ride of success ATM...7 glorious years...who would have thought that was possible after the nonsense Meyer and Toetie dished up for 6 long years of mediocrity.

https://www.google.com/search?q=de+alend+kolby+try&oq=de+alend+kolby+try&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTEyNzY5ajBqN6gCD7ACAQ&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&scso=_8mSAaIqfGdHQhbIPh_O98QE_76:292&vld=cid:3bda8207,vid:purrLLSk8vo,st:0

Soek en jy sal vind Plum...good or bad...it's a matter of perspective and attitude...

That is De Allende receiving a ball and going in between two players and passing to Kolbe.

Jy't gesoek, maar jy't nie gevind nie.

I asked you to show me a single try where there is a break and DDA keeps up with play...which is what this thread is about.

Well he scored a ty in the est against Itay and also had a try assist in the same tet - so he was in teh ight positon to cause that to happen. De Allende is routienely in such a position - your choice Esterhuisen never is and that s the reason why he cannot score tries neither assist in scoring of tries, BS remains the core of your attacks on De Allende - but wwhat you accuse De Allende of is exactly what Esterhuizen is guily of sinmce he ahs zero ball sense and deficient ball skills as well, What you accuse De Allende of is what is totally the case of Esterhuizen.

Esterhuizeb was given ample opportuniies os how he is a top class cneter - but all e produced was BS supreme. I believe Erasms is an expert coach wh now what is expeced from players - ut according t our ositngs he is not a coach's arse, . .

Plum, I searched for that try, because it was a clear positive contribution I could recall well...as for keeping up with play...you're barking up the wrong tree in your effort to discredit him at all cost. Are you trying to say that he is either too slow or too lazy to keep up? How does this tie in with the Bokke's defensive systems for sudden turned over possession? DdA is doing what the coaching team expects of him, that's why his still the incumbent even with a great player like AE as an alternative...they have access to all the GPS telemetry we never even see or analyze.

You,Moz and a few others are telling us the coaching team is wrong with their selections and playing style, you know better...I rather trust the coaching team on the back of close to 7 years of exelent results...I didn't watch the game on Saturday...checked in on the first half on my phone while I was watching MMA...I definitely not going to watch the matcch now just to prove some silly point. Let's wait for the Ausie tests and discuss his performance then...in the meantime I'll go with my big fat gut...intuitive perception...never failed me in 54 years. ;-)

Plum, I searched for that try, because it was a clear positive contribution I could recall well...as for keeping up with play...you're barking up the wrong tree in your effort to discredit him at all cost. Are you trying to say that he is either too slow or too lazy to keep up? How does this tie in with the Bokke's defensive systems for sudden turned over possession? DdA is doing what the coaching team expects of him, that's why his still the incumbent even with a great player like AE as an alternative...they have access to all the GPS telemetry we never even see or analyze.

You,Moz and a few others are telling us the coaching team is wrong with their selections and playing style, you know better...I rather trust the coaching team on the back of close to 7 years of exelent results...I didn't watch the game on Saturday...checked in on the first half on my phone while I was watching MMA...I definitely not going to watch the matcch now just to prove some silly point. Let's wait for the Ausie tests and discuss his performance then...in the meantime I'll go with my big fat gut...intuitive perception...never failed me in 54 years. ;-)

"Plum, I searched for that try, because it was a clear positive contribution I could recall well...as for keeping up with play...you're barking up the wrong tree in your effort to discredit him at all cost. Are you trying to say that he is either too slow or too lazy to keep up? How does this tie in with the Bokke's defensive systems for sudden turned over possession? DDA is doing what the coaching team expects of him, that's why his still the incumbent even with a great player like AE as an alternative...they have access to all the GPS telemetry we never even see or analyze."

Nah. you're just avoiding the fact that he doesn't keep with play. DDA is where he is and he gets involved in rucks that are near him. That's about it.

The Bok dominant tackle stats are far higher than everybody else's. But one would have to assume that despite his relatively low numbers, DDA's tackles contribute sufficiently to that. Yes, when people run into him he stops them.

- James Parsons

"“I’ve tried to look for something new, something fresh. If you look at all the other international sides, their (the Springboks’) dominant tackle stats are much higher defensively than anyone else.

“They had 15 percent dominant tackles, which is really, really high. If you look at the British and Irish Lions, the Wallabies, the All Blacks, and the French on the weekend, you’re looking at under three per cent.

Well his perfoimanmces indcates othewise - so I am sorry but you are shitspreading again. You look for what you imagined happened - but it has no relationship with wat really happened So live on in your world of dreams.

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Says the biggest Shitspreader of them all - AKA = Uncle Crazy Mike.

The poor availability of stats for us couch-enthusiasts is a sad state of affair. ESPN's Opta pulls were at least something even though it still left out helpful stats like turnovers and dominant tackles, but now we don't even have that.

Listen - when you cn answer a quewstion - which you, Pakie and Plaum refuse oa nswer and that is why Esterhuizen after plaing at center 18 times and playing in 20 tests is uable to score tries, Asnswer that question and yu can understnd what Esterhuizen lacks.

Since the hullabaloo on this site years ago I started folloiwng the cameras to see where Esterhizen is during games,

He gopes absent for up to 10 minutes at times or being shwon. When De Allende is fighting to get a turnover he quickly get back in defesnive position - when Esterhuizen is involve he vanished Esterhuizen rarely try to make a turnover - he stands around the forwds in such situations and if the ball goes out to the opposition backlinme he is just not there to defend against the opposiiton backline or even forwards attacks. That results in tests - an example was one of the forwards, scoing a try in the Italian tests and the result of Esterhizen not being in acenter position to defend when defence is necessary.

My advcice is what I try to do in te case of Esterhuizen and follow him in matches to see what he really is up to.and what contriutions he is making. in matches. That to my mind is why Erasmus takes a chance to see what Esterhuizen contributes to matches and the answer is negative.

Listen - when you cn answer a quewstion - which you, Pakie and Plaum refuse oa nswer and that is why Esterhuizen after plaing at center 18 times and playing in 20 tests is uable to score tries, Asnswer that question and yu can understnd what Esterhuizen lacks.

Since the hullabaloo on this site years ago I started folloiwng the cameras to see where Esterhizen is during games,

He went absent for up to 10 minutes at times or being shown. When De Allende is fighting to get a turnover he quickly get back in defesnive position - when Esterhuizen is involve he vanished Esterhuizen rarely try to make a turnover - he stood around amongst the forwads in such situations and if the ball went out to the opposition backline he is just not there to defend against the opposiiton backline or even forward attacks. That results in tests - an example was one of the forwards, scoing a try in the Italian tests and the result of Esterhizen not being in at th e center position to defend when defence is necessary.

My advcice is what I try to do in te case of Esterhuizen and follow him in matches to see what he really is up to.and what contriutions he is making. in matches. Tha to my mind is why Erasmus takes a chance to see what Esterhuizen contributes to matches and the answer is a negative.

"The poor availability of stats for us couch-enthusiasts is a sad state of affair. ESPN's Opta pulls were at least something even though it still left out helpful stats like turnovers and dominant tackles, but now we don't even have that."

True, odd that SS don't publish no proper match stats...why is it not public.

"Nah. you're just avoiding the fact that he doesn't keep with play. DDA is where he is and he gets involved in rucks that are near him. That's about it."

I'm not avoiding anything. I don't have an agenda. Like I said, I'll check this in particular vs Aus...I'm not saying it isn't so, I just havn't noticed him always lagging behind.

Listen - when you cn answer a quewstion - which you, Pakie and Plaum refuse oa nswer and that is why Esterhuizen after plaing at center 18 times and playing in 20 tests is uable to score tries, Asnswer that question and yu can understnd what Esterhuizen lacks.

DDA has featured in 94 tests and has failed to score a try in 82 of those. Esterhuizen has failed to score a try in 21 tests. You're labouring a point that is of little significance and a comparison that is impossible to make due to the vast discrepancy in the amount of tests between these two players.

Pakie you wasting your time with Crazy Mike….

Honestly he is the only Fool still carrying on like a lunatic about Esterhuisen, and yet again AE is in the Bok Squad for OZ tour.

Chew on that Uncle and keep quiet as you making a Fool of yourself:)

And for goodness sake damit, do something about your spelling!!

I know you can write properly, stop acting to try and get attention….

Those believing they saw dreamed up by themselves and then claimed on site it it really happened learnt a lot from Mozart and how to distort performances of players, If you ask them a simple question like the following they refuse to answer:-

How come in 20 tets played Esterhuizen never scored a try?

It probably set a record for backline players playing for the Springboks not to score any tries jn 20 tests they plaed for the Springboks,

‘Probably because he was making try assists like the one against Australia on July 8th 2023 You did lie and claim he made no try assist in all his tests. And repeated the lie here:

- your choice Esterhuisen never is and that s the reason why he cannot score tries neither assist in scoring of tries,

Lies made on the assumption nobody will verify your statement. Nobody should believe a word you write.

Apart from the try assist, Esterhozen beat 5 tackles, made 1 clean break and made 56 metres in that game.

I was a joke Draad…not ridicule. Sense of humor lacks a bit, loosen up man, not everything is dark.

Ja, ja...my sense of humor is just fine...chilled as ice...all OK then. :-)

Mozart

How many actual lies you spread on site about Erasmus Du Toit and De Allende? The count is endless and must have happened hundreds of times,

"Probably because he was making try assists like the one against Australia on July 8th 2023 You did lie and claim he made no try assist in all his tests. And repeated the lie here."

Watch the following highlight package liar - Esterhuizen did not have a hand in any of the tries scored. Zero - zero and zero,

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rugby+tests+against+Australia+in+2023&rlz=1C1YTUH_enZA1068ZA1070&oq=Rugby+tests+against+Australia+in+2023+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigAdIBCjM5NzYzajBqMTWoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:d36cb9f5,vid:JVqEAiwIOLo,st:0

So what shit are you coming up with next.rugby dofdoos. But then you apparently do not know what a try assist means. And your lies about what happens in matched are always clear - you used at least 5 000 repetative lies to discredit Erasmus, Du Toit and De Allende - so what else is new. Over he past 7 years 80% of your rugby inputs dealt with those 3 and all are distorted lies. .

Watch the following highlight package liar - Esterhuizen did not have a hand in any of the tries scored. Zero - zero and zero,

Minute 1:14 in the video clock he passes to Arendse to score. That is a try assist. This has been pointed out to you before.

He apssed the ball - great news wqoth bugger-all. That does not represent try-assist - if it was D e Allnde would have had a 100 try-assists. If he drew in the defenders by treatening to score himself it would have been a try assist. Obviously merely passing the ball to the next player does not represent a try assist. But then you really are stupid and Dave is right about it. Let me give you an example in the test against Georgia. De Allende drew in defenders and then made a dribble kick opening the way for Kriel to score a try since their were no playrs behind the defensive lne to prevent the scoring. A player who made a line break and caused an overlap on wither side of him represens a try assist, .