DDA Chasing play

Maaik, play nice... :-)

He apssed the ball - great news wqoth bugger-all. That does not represent try-assist

The definition of a try assist is that you feed the try scorer. If you don't pass/kick the ball to them, they don't score. You can't change these things to suit your narratives. They are what they are. If you don't like what an assist is, stop banging on about assists in your ramblings.

"He apssed the ball - great news wqoth bugger-all. That does not represent try-assist - if it was D e Allnde would have had a 100 try-assists. If he drew in the defenders by treatening to score himself it would have been a try assist. Obviously merely passing the ball to the next player does not represent a try assist. But then you really are stupid and Dave is right about it. Let me give you an example in the test against Georgia. De Allende drew in defenders and then made a dribble kick opening the way for Kriel to score a try since their were no playrs behind the defensive lne to prevent the scoring. A player who made a line break and caused an overlap on wither side of him represens a try assist, ."

So does that mean that DDA's try against Georgia doesn't count for him since he did nothing to score it but catch the ball?

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Let me give you an example in the test against Georgia. De Allende drew in defenders and then made a dribble kick opening the way for Kriel to score a try since their were no playrs behind the defensive lne to prevent the scoring.

Fantasy tries like this that never happened also don't count :)

T TA CG PG DGC PTS

W RouxFB 0 0 0 0 0 0

C MoodieW 0 0 0 0 0 0

L AmC 0 1 0 0 0 0

A EsterhuizenC 0 1 0 0 0 0

K ArendseW 3 0 0 0 0 15

M LibbokFH 0 0 3 1 0 9

C ReinachSH 0 0 0 0 0 0

As you can see the second column is try assists. Stop lying Clever

Mozart

If that is a trya ssist one ahs to wonder how many try assits De Allende created,

Hwever he stats gave his value 100% - a long list of zeroes of no real value, in the test and one maybe try assist. - nothing else contributed, He should have a perormance rating of 2 out of 10 for that performance,

That is the points scored section of the stats ou Maaik. Esterhuizen obviously did not score any conversions, penalty goals or dropped goals.

It was a try assist….something you claimed he had never done. You just took a chance, claimed that thinking nobody could check it. Outed yet again as the most dishonest poster on the Board.

The good news is that the DDA days are almost over.

I can deal with most of the players but he just adds absolutely nothing for me.

Lucky we indeed are - the days of De Allnde may be over - but the days with Esterhuizen never started. He was a flop in any tess he playe in since 2018 and never produced anything of value. Mozart claimed he has had a trya ssist - but for he rest never carried a ball over the gain line - never made as tackle and did nothing of any cnseqnce in that test, A long list of zeroes is all he produced.

Esterhuizen in 20 tests never scored a try - not once - because he is not where the action was and totally lack ball sense and pace.

So does that mean that DDA's try against Georgia doesn't count for him since he did nothing to score it but catch the ball?

St Esterhuizen in hi playng caeer - once fr the Junirs in 2014 and onme in a test he played in in 2018 had similar opportunie and e kncked on the ball from similar and very ood passes and his tryscoring still sits without any ty being scored,

That is the points scored section of the stats ou Maaik. Esterhuizen obviously did not score any conversions, penalty goals or dropped goals.

That is tragic BS spreading - look at the stats of Libok and you fnd you are talking rampant shit a per normal

That is tragic BS spreading - look at the stats of Libok and you fnd you are talking rampant shit a per normal

M LibbokFH 0 0 3 1 0 9

3 conversions, 1 penalty = 9 points. A child can figure this out. Well, an honest child. A lying geriatric apparently struggles.

Pakie

Yet Kriel scored that try and accoding to you it never happened, Those who prey up BS is at it again/

I do not watch rugby with tainted glasses made up by prejudice and comng up with regular BS like yu always spread.

Mozart knows full well that ESPN stats does not cover isssues like defence and attack and came up wth his own BS on site.

The stats he used is just the sane as all the fairy tales and lied he came up over he years.

What amazed me is that Plum, Mpower, .and Mozart came up with, Iwill give youa simple example - a kick was made and the ball carrier was caught two meters out and there were to Springboks trying to get the ball back, There were wo Springbks backline players at the breakdown - so where ws St Esterhuizen/ He was jogging along between the 10 and 22 meter line, So there were no follow-up in existence.in te case by Esterhuizen.- by the time he got to near o the breakdown the Italians ad already g ot he abll abck and kicked it out. St Esterhuizen did not have to walk back far to get into the Springbok defensive line caused by the line out that followed - so he did a slow follow-up - which Plum accused De Allende ith.

We hav e a follow-up for De Allende in the form of Damian Willemse, At least he is a thinkin g player - totally absent in te\he case of St Esterhuzen. At 31 of age he is hopeless in performances and ahas beena fring playe used when De Allende was rested or could not play. Despite all the clasims he was mostly a player in name - but then

produced nothing in games - so what he represent is not a bssis for him to claim he should replace De Allende - zero evidence of that. It team selection depends on what Mozart and you as well as Plaum and Mpower - South Arcia woud still be in he nubers 5 to 7 in tehrankings with no tropihes show. So ou four BSters knows nothinga bout rugby other han to claim you know more ofRugby than Erasmus knows, On that four yous hare the same level of rugby and coaching displayed of the ollowing:-

1. White efectively fired by SARU in 2008 - fored by the Sharks in 2014 - Montpellier in 2017 ad nw by the Bulls'
2. Meyer - fired by SaARU in 2015 and follwoing that u by bbeing fored by Satade Francais because he was nt a coach's arse;
3. Fired by SARU in April 2017 and that was followed up by his firing from his Japan club

Erasmsus has also all the performance records in matches avaiable and all the actual performances and that reflect the real performances of all the players and on that he base his decisions. Not on the BS spreading by the four site pretended rugby site experts always pretending they know somehing about rugby.

Let me give you an example in the test against Georgia. De Allende drew in defenders and then made a dribble kick opening the way for Kriel to score a try since their were no playrs behind the defensive lne to prevent the scoring.

Here is the Georgia test highlights. Watch and tell me when this happened. Good luck too, because Kriel wasn't even in that game.

You're probably referring to Arendse's try against the Barbarians.

Sorry - it happened in the test aainst the Italians, against which De Allende scored his try.

"It team selection depends on what Mozart and you as well as Plaum and Mpower - South Arcia woud still be in he nubers 5 to 7 in tehrankings with no tropihes show. So ou four BSters knows nothinga bout rugby"

I thought you wanted a site where people don't attack each other, Mike?

It appears for all the world that you are attacking us for our opinions.

Well when members accuse me of being a liar I will respond in kind. Mozart a a long history of distorting and lying about whaat happened in matches starting as long ago as 2014. He started off by putting on site what he called Morzoscopes. It represent total distortions of what happened during matches and was total lies,

Mozart is the one who since April 2018 attacked Erasmus appointment and first of lying about his career. A the time he alleed that it would have been better or SARU to retain Coetzee than to appoint Erasmus. Since then he has attacked Erasmus endlessly without regard to performances of the team and even invent stories about Erasmus recevng a honorary doctors degree for his services to rugby and although Erasmus neve rused the description of doctor he used it on site,

As to Du Toit and De Allende he hated hem from 2013 when instead of recruting Matfield after is retirement he went ballistic when some members said it was a huge mistake and that Du Toit was a better option at lock than Mattield.- in the end did it became what was claimed by Dave and me was correct. In the case of De Allende the lies were endlss and went to ridiculous height when Du Toit ws made Player of the Year in 2019 and again in 2024. In 2015 he used nickname for Esterhuizen - but now he support his selection at 12 not on performance but on his lies he was constantly spreading on site,

I can quote dozens of cases where he lied about those two players and that remains the stuation today.

A to following up by De Allende it may be wise if you yourself what happened in ties scored by De Allende against the AB's where you would see you are wrong anway, Esterhuizen never is where he action is and that accounts why it ws impossible for him to score tries in test matches, In one test he was and with an open tryline ahead of him he knocked on a perfect pass to him - which was a reepat of what happened in 2014 when he lost the Under 20 team in the 2014 final against England where e could and should ahve prevented he loss, From at I have seen of Esterhuizen through the years has alway been disappointing - especially on test level. Esterhuizen has zero ball sense and is never where he needs to be both in attacking and defense. That s why Erasmus does not rate him as a test playng cener and moved him to flank forward on two matches.

My problem is that I blieve what rugby expert says about performances of players and that is why I discard site airy tales on site, Erasmus is a top class coach - but if one has to belief them he is a total rugby idiot, So keep criticizing the coach and playes based on your own impressions - you are entiled to write what you please - but hn members oppose ou dieas theya re not liars,

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But, Mike...you were proved to be lying.

It's not attacking if its true.

You're a conservative. You prefer facts over feelings, don't you?

I can quote dozens of cases where he lied about those two players and that remains the stuation today.

Quote them.

No I m not lying, De Allende scored two tries against the All Blacks - if he was not following up accoding to our laims he ould not score a try you claim those two tries would not have scored,by him. I have never mce see Estehuizen making a lie break in any tests he played in and that led to a sustained attack by the Springboks or toscoring of tries.

If you are seeing the try De Allende scored in the Quartefinal f teh RWC in 2023 you would realise that he followed up the kick and when the ball came back after him being tasckled he got back into t e attacking line so quickly that when the ball was passed to him he break through the back in the line to receive he ball and score the tery. If he did not follow up the kick and caught the kicked ball that try would never have been scored,

As to the break by Williams where were the rest of h e backline when it happened they were all in a line withe ach other and not only got behind catching up with Williams. So that incident is not typical what happened in amtches. Pakie photos are always shit and he always used the photos to attack certain players.

By the way there is a rugby system computer system that enabled the coaching staff on international and even lower levels used by coaches to follow every step of individual players during matches. Tht program was developed in 2014 and Meyer reuse to use it - neither did White ever used it at the Sharks or the Bulls, Theprgram was available to bot - but using it was not an issue the two coaches regarded as acceptable becuas ei interfered with their team selections. Coetzee was just too stupid to understand it.

Erasmus is a compter addict when it comes to team selections and his partner were Jones - who went to England coaching set-up - but back with the Springboks, The do not only study the Spring boks team perormances - but also those of opposition teams and used that to deterine the most effective mach plan against teams. They know th strong and weak points of every opposiiton team and the result is to attack the weak points of the oppositon teams in matches, Be assured Erasms and Jones knows exactly how matches to be played to assure maximum wins.

They also know what Esterhuizen's contibution in test matches amounted to and that is why Esterhuizen was not in the 2019 RWC squad, When Kriel had to be replaced - Erasmus and Jones believe Willeme was the best option and he was called up to replace,Kril and not Esterhuizen.

In the 2023 RWC - Esterhuizen was only used in the tests against Georgia and Tonga, but in all other tests it was De Allende. In 2024 in his only test he palyed in against Wales he got red-carded in in minute 3 of that match for a dangerous tackle and receved a 4 week ban. The problem was that the Springboks wnted to see whether Esterhuizen would be able to fit into te backline by playing in that test and he buggerd p totally that opportunity by being ordered off the field at minute 3 and his only oter est in 2024 was against Scotland where he showed nothing when it came out to performances.

Those programmes showe so far he jsut does nt fit in and I hink if De Allende is not sed in tests at 12 - Willemse would be the pick at 12 aainst Esterhuizen. It would have been better if Esterhuizen played as a loosie and not at 12 where in all the tests he played in he never staked a real claim to be the frontline center in the team. Without having the full record of performances of the team members indicvidually - which we do not have - I believe his e career is at deaths door. We wil see - but if he is not the first choice center this year - he never will be.

By the way the experts who picks th World Player of th year has accesso the relevant compuer analysis and that is why they pickd Du Toit a player f the year in both 2019 and 2024 and hat is hy for years De Allende is at12 in World rugby since 2019. So we re abrking up te wrong team based on single instances in amtches - we base or opinions on hat we think happens because we like or dislike players - which in the case of real rugby experts believe is not the case.

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Those programmes showe so far he jsut does nt fit in

And now you're trying to tell us you know what software that you have never in your life laid your eyes on would indicate about a certain player. Stop these long essays of shit you suck from your thumb, it adds nothing of value to this forum.

Plum and Pakie,

BB posted a video undr the Cricket component about a criicket match involving a match Hero S eries tophy match between Eng land and S A in whiich A B de villier son his own won the match, When the match is over four videos open up four new videos One of those is the RWC 2023 quarterfial between SA and France.

You can find the videoin teh following posting.

Posted by: bobbok... (7959 posts)

Aug 01, 2025, 09:34

In the video in minutes 16 to 18 something happned thata ccording to you did not happen. So please come back to us on why what happened means nothing in real terms..

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a65653221/science-of-precognition-explained/

Just for you Moz. ;-)...

What am I going to do without Dud Allende and Dud Toit, it could get boring.

All hope is on Jurenzo Juju Malema Julius and Evan Roos.

Not surre JJ will make it into the team...Roos neither for that matter...

Ja it will be tough to find as terrible an incumbent as DDA to bitch about. Don't think even JJ can fill those shoes, he's actually got some fire about him.

Die Elendeling is not that bad man!

Not that good either :)

Jurenzo has to be picked first before we can critique his role. To date despite Dave’s protestations he just looks like a slow fattie to me. Perhaps some projection on Mounjaro’s part.

Roos is a talent but seems conflicted as to how to use the talent. But it matters little, either he or Roos senior have upset Dr Lucky and he remains in outer darkness.

You guys forget, Manie will be around for a while.