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PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Aug 2022, 13:00
#1
08 Aug 2022, 13:00#1

Let's look at the incident involving DDA's new favorite skill.



The image below is of the moment that DDA receives the ball. If DDA runs straight, he should get to where the black arrow points by the time an AB defender catches up to him. Instead, he runs more laterally and makes a little more ground than he would have had he taken the more direct route upfield. 





He now gets himself into this position...and here are his options. 




I can't see the choice DDA made being better than either options A or B above. He's already eaten into their space, and now ignores both of them?


Tell me that Am and Mapimpi weren't livid at how this played out.  The ABs are at 6s and 7s, a brilliant opportunity to run them all the way back into their own territory and possibly get some points in the process...and we grubber?


I get it, kicking is a big part of the B ok system but surely there are moments when one is validated in playing what's in front of you?


I maintain that DDA is a poor decision maker. 







PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Aug 2022, 13:22
#2
08 Aug 2022, 13:22#2

Timetamp 14:10


Here, when you want him to run at the line and step in-field, he crab runs and spreads the ball to Willemse with only Arendse outside him and two cover defenders for each.

Arendse is muscled into touch. 

Going in-field was the option here. He should have stepped off of his right foot the moment he caught the pass from Pollard. 

You can say that it is split-second decision making but in reality, at international level, the difficulty rating of the decision DDA had to make here wasn't exactly high .

Another bad decision, stifling momentum.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Aug 2022, 13:30
#3
08 Aug 2022, 13:30#3

Dave...

Here's the best 12 in SA.



CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
08 Aug 2022, 13:31
#4
08 Aug 2022, 13:31#4

I wish the crowd would shut up so I can enjoy the Haka.



CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
08 Aug 2022, 13:38
#5
08 Aug 2022, 13:38#5

Yes Plum ... I've said it once ... and I'll say it again ... De Lindy doesn't have a brain.

That's the one thig he has in common with Stupid Dave.

It's probably why Stupid likes him so much.




KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
08 Aug 2022, 14:33
#6
08 Aug 2022, 14:33#6

Yup, we all are saying the same thing about DD. Although, Kwagga is not a 12. Don't see any passing skills other than someone that plays like an opensider

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Aug 2022, 15:18
#7
08 Aug 2022, 15:18#7

Haha Korn...

This guy has been a Bok for ages now. I think feel like he hit his ceiling years ago but apparently, my eyes lie to me haha

You won't change my mind on Kwagga.

Kwagga steps to create space and buy time for the pass, and he's looking for the off-load. That's the difficult part of creating an opportunity and it's instinctive for him. 

From there, getting the ball to the support runner is simply execution.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Aug 2022, 16:19
#8
08 Aug 2022, 16:19#8

In that first move his task was to commit AB#12, which he could have done even in the second still by stepping off his left foot which would have committed 12, , taking the tackle and passin/ offloading. That  would have released Am and Mapimpi  with only one NZ tackler ahead as you can see in the first still.

Even if somehow the cover got to Am which looks unlikely….surely we can bet on Mapimpi, a Bok wing,  beating one head on defender in huge space. If it was Kolbe it would be an automatic.


Nope, this is exactly the situation where a good backline scores….it rarely gets easier than this in test matches.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
08 Aug 2022, 18:11
#9
08 Aug 2022, 18:11#9

Cant agree more....DDA is apparently so strong, so what stopped him from running straight for the gap, offloading at the right moment and score??

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2022, 01:57
#10
09 Aug 2022, 01:57#10
Oh what horse shit, he makes a nice inside break sees that nothing much is coming of it as there is cover defence and he puts in a grubber to pressurise the AB’s deep in their half It’s what we always do and why we won the game. It’s all about building pressure DA is the best 12 in the game and thank goodness Rassie thinks the same unlike you ignorant puppets
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Aug 2022, 02:00
#11
09 Aug 2022, 02:00#11

Of course Dave when beating a tackle or making an offload is a bridge too far, by all means grubber.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
09 Aug 2022, 03:16
#12
09 Aug 2022, 03:16#12

That was schoolboy stuff.

Straighten the line instead of crabbing, and then pass before getting tackled. That would have taken the All-Black 12 out of the game. As it was, the ABS 12 was already on the back foot, so Delande just needed to draw and pass. 

Then it would have been a two-on-one scenario. 
The 1st image shows the New Zealand number 13 was way out of the scene and actually chasing to keep up with play (in addition to being out of position)  

All that AM would have to do was run straight, and then draw the last defender, and pass to release Mapimpi. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Aug 2022, 04:14
#13
09 Aug 2022, 04:14#13
DDA is not what we need in that channel....according to the Plum pics and what I saw when watching the game, allende is stagnating that channel....even if the Gameplan is strict, those kind of chances should be taken, instead of kicking possession away....he might be strong but not very bright 
MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
09 Aug 2022, 07:23
#14
09 Aug 2022, 07:23#14

De Lindy is not strong. How many times does the bastard have to be run over before that sinks into your fucking skulls? I don't know how he ever got this reputation as big ball carrier. His carries even shittier than his defence. Tried to carry it up and it took 5 Blocks to stop him being dumped back on his arse and an absolute age to secure that ball! Happens all the fucking time. De Lindy is another Block pussy who gets manhandled like the bitch that he is. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Aug 2022, 07:43
#15
09 Aug 2022, 07:43#15
Dave…Rassie also keeps picking Mostert. Explain.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2022, 08:55
#16
09 Aug 2022, 08:55#16

"Cant agree more....DDA is apparently so strong, so what stopped him from running straight for the gap, offloading at the right moment and score??"

Dodgy software...he stuffed up atleast 3 backline moves by taking the wrong options...once he passed too soon and the crab-runs with the grubbers were just so wrong, it's almost pathetic. He can crashball and clear rucks, his offloads were coach out of him and he don't seem to be able to function in a running backline.

I liked him, but he probably cost us 3 tries on Saturday...we should find a replacement fast...and Esterhuizen isn't the answer either.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
09 Aug 2022, 09:07
#17
09 Aug 2022, 09:07#17

I guess we'll be seeing some drop goal attempts from De Lindy next. 

If Kwagga plays in the back row he should he playing at 6 ... but we all know that that spot is taken. 

Kwagga is too small imo to play as a test loosie however having said that, do we have a better option currently at 6?

I would play him there ... and leave him there till a better option comes.

We need a Willem Albert's at 7 and a younger Vermeulen at 8.  

Sadly we have neither. Wiese is nothing special and Du Toit is totally over rated.

The only 3 forwards worthy of their spot are Kitshoff, Marx and Etzebeth. The rest are rubbish. Fat blobs that contribute nothing in the tight loose. 

It would be great to see Snyman return.

Lood is useless. Always has been. Just too weedy.

Pollard is another option forced on us. I don't like him at all. He brings nothing to the park. He's as average as they come. 

Wish we could breed a Dan Carter.

I like Hendrikse. He's a live wire with a good pass and kicking game but as for the rest of the backline ... what a mess. 

Maybe if we had a proper backline coach things would be better. 



PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Aug 2022, 09:48
#18
09 Aug 2022, 09:48#18
I’m happy with most of the team. The forwards are dominating everyone. Hard to say anyone doesn’t deserve to be there when no other packs are really able to find parity against them. There’s good synergy there atm and i wouldn’t wanna mess with it too much. Kolisi and PSDT take plenty of flack and to my mind it’s a tad unfair. The sooner Snyman returns the better. Eben + Snyman…easily best lock pairing in the world. Not a massive Lood fan. We have at least two brilliant 9s to replace Faf when the time comes. Pollard hasn’t been as crisp lately but he’s still my pick. The grubber needs to stop though. Am is probably our best back at this point. Always finds a way to make vital contributions and turn opportunities into scores. A damn shame that he has DDA to deal with. DDA should have been dropped 5 years ago when it was already clear he’d reached his ceiling. Pollard, Willemse, Am, Fassi…with Cheslin and Tambwe…Willie & Galant. Those would be my backs.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2022, 09:57
#19
09 Aug 2022, 09:57#19

"There’s good synergy there atm and i wouldn’t wanna mess with it too much. Kolisi and PSDT take plenty of flack and to my mind it’s a tad unfair."

Yes, why try to fix anything that's not broken...

There's no apparent replacement for DDA.


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Aug 2022, 10:53
#20
09 Aug 2022, 10:53#20
Yea there is…KWAGGA! I’m getting tired of saying it :)
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Aug 2022, 11:05
#21
09 Aug 2022, 11:05#21
The guys doubting Wiese…i think you’re making a mistake. He’s exactly type of bully 8 that SA produces and the rest of the world fears. He was one of the main contributors to our gainline dominance on Saturday and we’re still a season or two out from seeing the best of him. Then there’s Roos…basically a bigger and better version of Kwagga. Honestly though, the rest of the world must be bemused at how we can stack a bench full of guys that would be first picks in even the current AB side…and then have are even more waiting in the wings. This is true for both the backs and the forwards. Good times for SA rugby
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2022, 13:59
#22
09 Aug 2022, 13:59#22

Ja, I'm liking Wiese more after every outing...reminds me of Alberts in his prime.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2022, 19:03
#23
09 Aug 2022, 19:03#23
He beat a tackle with the nice inside break
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Aug 2022, 19:05
#24
09 Aug 2022, 19:05#24
Mostert never starts and knows the system. If RG was fit Mostert would not feature
MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
09 Aug 2022, 19:07
#25
09 Aug 2022, 19:07#25

gainline dominance on Saturday

What gainline dominance? Plum(p), you've regained the last letter of your name.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Aug 2022, 20:22
#26
09 Aug 2022, 20:22#26

I think Willemse is a good replacement for DDA....or atleast they should try him at 12....he will definitely try more, instead of kicking good possession away and forming rucks.....its worth a chance atleast.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
09 Aug 2022, 20:25
#27
09 Aug 2022, 20:25#27

Willemse would have been able to straighten the line, then draw and pass taking out the ABS 12 with ease. He might even have sidestepped the All-Black 12, making it a 3-1 overlap. 

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
09 Aug 2022, 20:42
#28
09 Aug 2022, 20:42#28

try more you say. The Blocks don't need any more try hards, they just need good players. Willemse is just as stupid as De Lindy only with a little more wiggle. Twizzle Dee and Dizzle Dumb.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Aug 2022, 21:16
#29
09 Aug 2022, 21:16#29

No Willemse is a good player as proved in all his games so far in the Bok Jersey, not to mention his contributions for the Stormers in getting the gold....but really difficult for you to see, as your judgement is mostly clouded with poop and peppered with hate....which in turn makes you blind to Balanced Player Retrospect. 

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
09 Aug 2022, 21:20
#30
09 Aug 2022, 21:20#30

Nah just fucking reality bud. He may be good to YOU but he ain't good to ME. The fucking idiot who threw a good ball to nobody... yeah reeeall creativity. Useless. But good ahead... lets have more Willemse. I've already taken It'sabutt apart... I'll laugh even harder at Willemse...   

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Aug 2022, 21:37
#31
09 Aug 2022, 21:37#31

" South Africa’s Damian Willemse ranked in the top five for both metres gained (190m – 3rd) and line breaks (3, =4th) among players from tier-one nations during this year’s July Test matches, while Springbok teammate Lood de Jager ranked second for own lineout takes (15). " 

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
09 Aug 2022, 21:43
#32
09 Aug 2022, 21:43#32

Is that metres gained before or after the line? Hahahaha! Blocks beat 8 defenders. so where's the great attacking. Give me time references from the game so I can see it for myself. Any kind of reference. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Aug 2022, 22:00
#33
09 Aug 2022, 22:00#33

Article in Rugby mag 4 August - stats on players July tests

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
09 Aug 2022, 22:09
#34
09 Aug 2022, 22:09#34

I call bullshit. Lots of articles about how de Lindy is the best centre in world rugby... we all know its horseshit. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Aug 2022, 22:24
#35
09 Aug 2022, 22:24#35

It's about Damian Willemse not DDA.

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
09 Aug 2022, 22:25
#36
09 Aug 2022, 22:25#36

Reread MP. 

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