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De Kock still a bumbler

Started by Mozart54 REPLIES1,097 VIEWS· 06 Jan 2018, 17:26
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jan 2018, 17:26
#1
06 Jan 2018, 17:26#1
He is comfortable with the quickies but his keeping to spin is still a work in progress. Maharaj hadn’t bowled 4 balls before Quintie blew an easy stumping,
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jan 2018, 19:58
#2
06 Jan 2018, 19:58#2

We saw some brilliant keeping from De Kock today. Looks like the best wicket keeping batsman in the world today.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jan 2018, 22:25
#3
06 Jan 2018, 22:25#3
Nope, the best wicket keeper in the world has to be able to keep to spin bowling.
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XaviPro1,924 posts
06 Jan 2018, 23:56
#4
06 Jan 2018, 23:56#4

@Beeno...

Jonny Bairstow says Hi



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jan 2018, 00:04
#5
07 Jan 2018, 00:04#5

Mozart

Your  pet hate showing through again.   Are you serious in your BS again?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jan 2018, 00:04
#6
07 Jan 2018, 00:04#6

Mozart

Your  pet hate showing through again.   Are you serious in your BS again?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jan 2018, 05:28
#7
07 Jan 2018, 05:28#7
Nope just factual. It reminded me of the runout he missed which took as out of the WC.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jan 2018, 05:31
#8
07 Jan 2018, 05:31#8

I was watching the famous 438 ODI repeat and Boucher made exactly the same mistake in that game -  yet there was not a  word from you about it.

You are never \factual - always prejudiced.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jan 2018, 05:42
#9
07 Jan 2018, 05:42#9

What a farce - I wrote down indisputable facts about what the Steyns buggered up and you take it personally.   

What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!! .   

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jan 2018, 10:31
#10
07 Jan 2018, 10:31#10

Mozart

By the way your attack on De Kock is standard - but the silence on the batting flops of Amla and Elgar is deafening.   Do you now re3alize that this type of approach is just not only questionable - but dishonest and prejudiced.    Get a life.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Jan 2018, 19:31
#11
07 Jan 2018, 19:31#11

Xavi, Jonny Bairtow is not remotely in the glass of De Kock.  Look at the amazing agility of De Kock. 

Dr Mozzzzz majoring on isol ated incidents. All keepers make mistakes.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jan 2018, 21:14
#12
07 Jan 2018, 21:14#12
De Kock, along with Rabada and now Markham have been our best additions in recent years. That said de Kock struggles when the ball is moving or spinning....and he is a poor keeper to spin bowling. But he has a great eye and with make lots of big scores against medium paced bowling on flat tracks.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2018, 03:58
#13
08 Jan 2018, 03:58#13

Because he missed one catch in how many tests he struggle in catch spinning balls.

What a load of standard garbage one should ignore;   He made lots  of  runs against all attacks he faced this far.   Fact is he scored  more ODI centuries against all comers than Smith scored throughout his career - but that does not count according to our prejudiced BSter,

It is this type of junk thinking  that cost us Dawid Malan who is now a top runscorer for England,    

 

  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2018, 04:15
#14
08 Jan 2018, 04:15#14

Lets start with the WC squad.   Kirchner, Morne Steyn, Paige, Pienaar. De Villiers, Alberts, Matfield and  Brits to name a few.

All of them was not test standard anymore and De Villiers was poor after his injury,    Matfoeld was a joke in bad taste and  most of them could not make the starting line-up ever,

The above was all BS selections - whether you like it or not,    


 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2018, 04:58
#15
08 Jan 2018, 04:58#15
Oh dear Tokkie I agree they would have been bs selections.....if only Victor was playing a cricket match. Hahaha....poor old one track Tokkie.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2018, 05:06
#16
08 Jan 2018, 05:06#16

Posted under the wrong heading,   However, my latest comment on the cricket issue is being ignored by Mozart so one must accept he cannot counter real cricket arguments,  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2018, 08:42
#17
08 Jan 2018, 08:42#17

Mozart

Another Amla failure - any comments?    He is now with the same stunt Graeme Smith tried for years - 7 poor innings and when the public start to grumble he gets a 50 plus score.   Not good enough.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2018, 14:11
#18
08 Jan 2018, 14:11#18
Case in point. The ball starts moving and Quinty is a deer in the headlights. Two snicks for 4, both of which he knew nothing about and then a third one and his luck ran out.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2018, 16:33
#19
08 Jan 2018, 16:33#19

Hell you are totally deluded,   De Kock scored more runs in the second innings than Amla scored in both innings,   

Most batsman  failed on a very difficult pitch because it was covered yesterday,   So in your book the only failure was De Kock.   You do not mind to be prejudiced and AL WAYS wrong - hey?    

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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
08 Jan 2018, 18:37
#20
08 Jan 2018, 18:37#20
Quinton de Kock is a world class batsman and wicketkeeper. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesnt know a very lot about cricket.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2018, 19:40
#21
08 Jan 2018, 19:40#21
Oh sure Kombuis, point me to one instance where the team has collapsed and Quinton came through.....a great bat in easy conditions. As for the world class wicket keeping.....not for spin. Did you even play the game?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2018, 19:45
#22
08 Jan 2018, 19:45#22
Another test where the golden oldies prevailed.....AB, Faf with the bat....Philander, Morkel, Steyn with the ball, along with Rabada. Sooooo Tokkie, after you delight in Amla’s poor test, you are upset because I point out Quintie’s deer in the headlights batting. Totally predictable. Four years after you started agitating for Amla to be deep sixed are you once again calling for him to be dropped?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2018, 22:53
#23
08 Jan 2018, 22:53#23

I did not agitate to drop Amla ever and never delighted in Amla's failed test as alleged by you,   I mentioned Amla when you make your standard BS on De Kock which started when he replaced Graeme Smith in the ODI team in 2013.

That story has been ongoing ever since on your part despite De Kock already after 4 years has a better average record than Smith ever had.    You refuse to look at batting averages amd actual performance.    The example is also as per above.   Du Plessis made 62 runs in the latest test against  India - De Kock made 53 - so he is under attack by you as per normal.    

To come back to Amla -- his batting average is dropping faster and faster - it went down by 4 points in the last two years from 53 to 49,   For that to happen in a long career shows that he failed constantly in tests - a danger sign if ever there was one.    

Your age ma nia is coming through again and is a constant = sportsmen are assessed not in performance - but age and reputation - so what else is new? 

 



 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2018, 01:09
#24
09 Jan 2018, 01:09#24
No “mamnia”(sic)...just a constant pattern......tests are won by experienced players. Like today.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jan 2018, 02:00
#25
09 Jan 2018, 02:00#25

Thanks for typo correction - but no comment on facts as stated,    Tests are won by performance not age or reputation,

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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
09 Jan 2018, 05:10
#26
09 Jan 2018, 05:10#26
Mozart you always sound very angry. Is something the matter or is this normal for you?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jan 2018, 06:49
#27
09 Jan 2018, 06:49#27

Koosk

Mozart hates all members with an opposing view to his,   He is prejudiced and when it comes to sport always go mad when his ideas about reputation selections are opposed,   His norm for selection is reputation only - performance counts for nothing.

He hates all players who replaced his favourites and is constant in attacking them,

Remember how he went for your user name initially - that is typical when he thinks you could turn out to be a possible opponent to his  sh!t ideas.    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2018, 14:24
#28
09 Jan 2018, 14:24#28
Not at all Koos....things are good.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jan 2018, 17:32
#29
09 Jan 2018, 17:32#29

Mozart

I saw the incident you wrote about on replay again nd I sometimes wonder whether you are not ashamed of yourself in starting a thread and misleading members about that incident.    There is not a wicketkeeper om the world and never was who would have made that catch.

   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2018, 19:29
#30
09 Jan 2018, 19:29#30
It wasn’t a catch, it was a stumping Doffer.
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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
09 Jan 2018, 20:04
#31
09 Jan 2018, 20:04#31
Well then I'd hate to see you when you're pissed off with life.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2018, 20:12
#32
09 Jan 2018, 20:12#32
Never am Kombuis....your problem is you simply don’t have a sense of humour. Most of what I say is wooshing over your head.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jan 2018, 20:24
#33
09 Jan 2018, 20:24#33
BS again.    An obvious lesson for you - before a stumping it is necessary for the WK to catch the ball dumbo.         
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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
09 Jan 2018, 20:29
#34
09 Jan 2018, 20:29#34
Let's just agree that your idea of humour and mine are very different. Greeting a new poster by asking him if he's gay is probably only funny to you. 
I see you don't get on with clevermike but he at least has manners as shown by the warm welcome he gave me. I'll stick with common courtesy and good manners thank you, rather than someone who thinks his insults and put downs of other people are so funny.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2018, 20:45
#35
09 Jan 2018, 20:45#35
Certainly Doffer he has to catch the ball for it to be a stumping, but here’s the thing you are missing.....for it to be a ‘catch’ it has to hit the bat. It didn’t De Kock just dropped the ball when the stumping was on. Hope that helps.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jan 2018, 00:50
#36
10 Jan 2018, 00:50#36

Balls BSter/    You tried to mislead all the members by starting this thread and now suddenly try to be even more devious than you norma lly are.    FACT.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jan 2018, 02:25
#37
10 Jan 2018, 02:25#37
Don’t get your droopy tits in a wringer Doffer....just remember, for it to be a catch it has to hit the bat first.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jan 2018, 06:48
#38
10 Jan 2018, 06:48#38

Mozart

I am not going to lower myself to your level again and break my New Years resolution not to make personal attacks on members = sop have your fun.

Best advice  to you - keep to the factual situation and do not try to deceive the members by prejudicial attacks on sportsmen,  I will always expose that on site  and like happened in this case it will only disgrace you further.  

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Jan 2018, 09:14
#39
10 Jan 2018, 09:14#39

"Mozart

I am not going to lower myself to your level again and break my New Years resolution not to make personal attacks on members = sop have your fun."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_resolution

"A New Year's resolution is a tradition, most common in the Western Hemisphere but also found in the Eastern Hemisphere, in which a person resolves to change an undesired trait or behavior, to accomplish a personal goal or otherwise improve their life."

You do realise that by declaring that particular new year resolution, that you have admitted to having a habit of making personal attacks on people, don't you?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jan 2018, 09:20
#40
10 Jan 2018, 09:20#40

Ceradunce

Who started the latest antics - your hero Mozart did it.   He is a freak - but not as bad as you are.   Incidentally you were expressly left out of that resolution you refer to as clearly stated on site.  

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