dogs are incredible innovaters...we cannot durvive our games in the world

The ability that God gives to even His abandoned creatures to survive. ..He's in control...lots of questions we cannot answer...starvation suffering etc but His ways are far bigger than our perception...How can the Potter be questioned by the clay?? 

https://youtu.be/WYnv2oxi4OA

an example

 
The Potter makes some vessels for noble use ... and others He makes for common use.

Some have cracks in them ... and leak ... unable to hold any contents ... was it deliberate?? ... or just shoddy workmanship? ... either way they'll inevitably end up smashed and discarded ... never knowing what their purpose was ... only ever being able to hang on to a blessing for as long as it took to leak out ...

How do these vessels feel about their fate ... about the Potter who decided it? Are they sad? ... Do they feel cared for? ... loved? ... are there perhaps a few questions bursting to be asked? 

Others vessels are made of fine clay ... are adorned with fine hand painted insignias ... and are admired by all for their beauty ... their perfection ... are they more deserving of their status? ... Do they feel fortunate to have been made so? ... or do they lord it over the cracked and the chipped?

Will we ever know ...?? 

 Has this forum become a Christian religion outpost? I hope not....I don't think I can take any more of the nauseating falseness.

I wish you bible-bashers would find some other website to post your happy clappy nonsense. This is a rugby site. Talk rugby or shove off. No-one comes here to read your stupid little christian platitudes so go post them where people care about that kind of stuff.

Edit: Posted that before I saw Dense's comment above. For once we agree!

 
Spare us the lecture will ya ... we've heard it all before!!

"Spare us the lecture will ya ... we've heard it all before!!"

Good, then take note and go post your christian witterings on some site where people actually give a toss about them.

 
Get it through your thick skull, Redneck ... we'll post whatever we want ... you do not need to read any of it ... nor do you need to contribute ... you got that?

Uh-oh, tough guy alert! Klown is trying to pretend he's some kind of hard case!

LMAO!

 "Witterings"...hahaha.....RooiAAS has found a new word. What a break through, I thought his voca bulary was static circa 2002.

CC I think I misunderstand what you wrote there...about the potter. To me it seems to raise the question of free will, and how it cannot exist at the same time as a creator that knows all, beginning to end. No?

 Dogs dont seem terribly innovative to me Seb .Not only have they not created an alternative energy source of note but their fashion sense leaves a lot to be desired ! I mean to say how can you take them critters seriously when everythings all doggy style ?

 Moz "Wittering " is an actual word ,just off the top of my head I think it means to babble or talk nonsense ?

 
Plum ... I at times wonder myself about this so called "free will" ... for example ... if you take Pharaoh during the times of Moses ... his heart was hardened by God every time to enforce a specific out come ... in the end he never had a say in how things would turn out ... yet he and his people suffered the consequences of decisions made by another 

From where I'm sitting there was definitely no free will there.

Wardad, what happened there is that Moffie read my post and started punching the air and shrieking with delight because he thought he'd found a typo of mine or a word that I'd mispelled.

However, (unfortunately in a way) many years of getting egg all over his stupid fat face have finally taught the foppish old blowhard to play it safe so he would have looked up the word "wittering" before making a fool of himself for the umpteenth time and - after his disappointment of finding the word - he felt the need to say something spiteful, vindictive and nasty anyway.

Hell would have to freeze over before the deceitful and cowardly old relic would admit to what I said above but I have the satisfaction of knowing I'm right . . . and knowing that he knows I'm right.

LMAO!

My 4th son: Chewbacca. 9 weeks.

 Your 4th son is shaving already ? ! 

 Hmmm.... so that potter he made unto himself a chamberpot and called it a beeno ?

 
He's a beauty, Draad!!

Did he come with papers?

 Nope, that would have doubled the price. The mom and dad has papers and the bloodline is fine, but not a registered breeder...not one of the exploiters though, she's trying to get her stuff in order to register as a breeder, but not there yet. Her dogs looks good though, part of the family, not just incubators for quick cash.

 My previous dog was an Australian Shepherd,  from a registered breeder. I got a whole portfolio with it AND had to sign a declaration that I won't use it for breeing outside of an official registered program.  Lot's of people fcks up bloodlines of expensive breeds for quick cash, making these breeds even more expensive. 

 
The mother of both Colossus and Churchill was an import from Germany with papers ... a Harlequin with one blue eye ... the other split with blue and brown.

I got her at 10 weeks and she was already as big as an adult Staffi. All feet.

Sadly she passed at only 18 months. Broke my friggin heart.

Odin is their daddy ... solid bloodline but no papers so I couldn't register the pups.

Either way ... they're my boys ... love them irrespective.

Hate those "quick cash incubators" ... their only interest is the mighty dollar.

Chewbacca's gonna get nice and big. Beautiful dog. I trust you'll be the daddy he believes you are.

 He's already showing signs of character. I asked for the smallest male of the litter. ..normally little fighters from the start. My boys are fighting another for a chance to play with him. My youngest turns 3 just before Christmas and seems the only one fit enough to last the playing sessions.

 In between shearing seasons I used to work on various roperties mustering fencing and wot-not .Had an 'eye " dog named Lulu and 2 big huntaways eye dogs were bred from border collies I forget off the top of me head where huntaways came from .Brought them from a dude named Chub Parkes who would muster all 9000 sheep on his rperty from the landing on his woolshed  which was on top of a large hill .He would just leave open the gates he wanted 'em to go through send his dogs away out back and smoke a pipe or 2 .Then one of his wee kiddies would follow behind on horseback and close the gates behind them .Very lazy bloke was Chub except when it came to training and breeding some of the best dogs in NZ or anywhere else for that matter .An example of his laziness was him draughting the lambs fron the ewes and having his kids standing in the holes in the yard race ,they would get bored and wander off with results as expected !But those dogs were amazing it took me a couple of years of wheedling and working for him to get them but they made an inexperienced dumb ars.e like me look like a champion ,I had to do bugger all just let them get on with it !Eye dogs are funny ,if they arent out working they start to try and herd what ever is around , hilarious watching them herding up kids ! I wasnt able to afford the cost of bringing them to Oz and it was not a good place for them anyway but sold them to my cousin who was pretty good with dogs .Those dogs were smarter than a lot of the people I have met and certainly more loyal than nearly all of em .

 
Never heard of a Huntaway Eye Dog before ...had to google it.

Very interesting. Learnt something today.

My grandfather farmed with Merino sheep. Sometimes we would go through to his farm for the school holidays and find a team of guys shearing sheep. He musta had at least 3000 head. There were sheep everywhere.

They used these scissor like sheers to remove the wool and I always found it amazing that they never cut the sheep. Not a nick. It was fascinating how they would handled the animal during the process and how this animal never kicked or tried to get away. Never could figure that one out. 

The barn they sheared the sheep in always had an odd smell about it. I can still remember that smell to this day. Rather pleasant.

Soooo ... your a sheep shearer by trade, huh ?!! That's an interesting line of work you've chosen. Different to the boring shyte I'm in.

Glad to know you, Wardad!

Have you continued this profession in Oz ... or are you stuck in an office like me with collar and tie??

 I went back shearing for a while after I left the Army but like most shearers it ended up destroying my back .In the South Island in NZ they still have blade shearing gangs ,I had a cousin working in one which had a 16 year old girl named Joy McCracken who set a womens blade shearing record of 222 in 8 hours .We used to go and watch them whenever we could and the difference between them and our noisy machine shearing using a handpiece was amazing .So damn quiet ! Just snip snip snip ,they would open the blades up on the 'longblow" and just slice through the wool in one long blow closing up at the end, the shears were that sharp.They used to use blades on sheep grazing up around the snowline as it left a layer of wool for protection. Nowadays I work from home ,one great thing about the internet age .That smell from the shearing shed would have been lanolin .Yeah that whole collar and tie thing can be a drag eh ? Theres always some putz who ya have to get along with when all you want to do is kick their ars.e !Good thing about shearing and soldiering was if you had a beef with someone you went outside and settled it the old fashioned way !Cheers !