SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 May 2024, 22:21#2
Bullshit he had a solid final - made a positive contribution, the first time he got the ball beating a defender and breaching the advantage line.
I watched to minute 6 and just recall after watching Chasing the Sun 2 he had a very impactful WC
Consistently the best 12 in the game for years now
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
03 May 2024, 06:08#4
One struggles to believe Dave did anything more than make photocopies at the law firm that was dumb enough to hire him.
He watches 6 minutes and declares DDA had an impactful WC final. My guess is that whatever DDA did in those 6 minutes completely negated any negative contributions for the other 74 minutes. Gosh, he must have broken a bunch of tackles and run one in under the posts?
Oh, wait, no, he tractored a couple of meters. And it was that meagre bit of tractoring which drove the fear of God into the ABs and caused them to lose the final...right, Fat Lip?
...he then sites a documentary as proof. Whahaha!!!
This when the entire game is there, and he could timestamp all the "impactful" contributions.
But...he NEVER will.
DDA is black hole shaped like a donkey.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 08:57#6
I’m not lying at all I said DA had a solid final - not great but certainly not awful.
One thing is for certain is that he had a good WC, he was an integral part of our victory
Watching Chasing the Sun 2 highlighted that for me
Buttplug go fuck yourself you boring twat
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 10:20#9
No he was not useless - bullshit
How can you be useless if you are only involved 5 times with ball in hand - it was the nature of that game
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 12:05#12
Yep these dumbfucks will have us believe that we are number 1 in the game, having won back to back WC’s, a RC and a Lions series selecting a useless 12, one of the most important positions on the field, for the past how many years
The joke is on them. Not rugby astute enough to appreciate or understand DA’s role in the side.
They want to see 12’s with dancing feet, attacking space that does not exist. The fact that none of these 12’s exist in modern test rugby is a fact beyond their comprehension.
It’s 2024 not 2004
Thank fuck Rassie knows and appreciates his worth at 12 and has done since day one. Rassie gets 99% of his calls spot on. Powder puff Mostert accounts for that 1% slip
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2024, 13:25#14
So clearly Mostert outproduced Dud. The only forward who gained less metres than Dud was Bongi, who was on for a few minutes.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 13:26#15
DA is class Mostert is physically weak - a complete liability where it counts
Apart from process tackles and the odd line out take he is literally useless
Imagine measuring a Bok lock by the number of process tackles he makes - now if only they were dominant tackles - something beyond powder puff
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 20:06#19
No Moz you got it completely wrong so wrong in fact it makes you look stupid.
So instead of stating the facts, let me ask you the question. We know inside centre is one of the most important positions in a rugby side right? If this is the case then why oh why would Rassie select him from the day he took over the reigns and has never deviated from that selection?
This despite the presence of pretty handy alternatives in Esterhuizen, Janse v Rensburg and Serfontein.
So how did we win two WC’s back to back, a RC, a Lions series and attain the number 1 spot in the game with as shit as 12 as you say he is? Answer me these two questions
Bottom line is you are out of touch with modern rugby, you don’t appreciate DA’s value but worst of all you are of the impression other test 12’s out there are playing a different game.
Reality is that making an impression as a centre in test match rugby these days is a very tough gig - so much so that we don’t see coaches retain the same players for any length of time. How often have the likes of Tuilagi, Aki, Henshaw, Kerevi, Danty and Tuipolotu retained their spots at 12. Hell the AB’s have tried hell knows how many 12’s and now seem to have settled on Jordie, a retrenched fullback
You just don’t get it Moz - at all - but thankfully Rassie does
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
04 May 2024, 06:24#22
Dud can't attack the gainline at pace because he doesn't have any.
He's easily the slowest back the Boks have. Even after Pollard's injuries, he's faster than Dud.
Dud also has almost no aggression. You look at Kolbe and Arendse and the intent present in their hits...hell, even Am hits harder and he's a bloody 13. They have technique and they have heart. They have aggression. Dude wants to bear hug people.
Dud has the most limited distribution ability of any of the Bok backs. He's slow to think, slow to pass and generally dies with the ball.
Dud's decision making suffers from serious latency. He glitches out, and reverts to kicking possession away. I mean, since when are we supposed to accept that a 12, with a 2 man overlap, should be kicking the ball? Oh yeah, in the upside down land of mystics and savants.
All these arguments, like the extremely long post the Fat Lip made above, don't provide any evidence of Dud's ability...
"Coach picks him - he must be good."
"He has been in the winning team - he must be good."
"He has X amount of caps...he must be good."
"Rugby has changed...he must be good"
"Everybody is stupid...he must be good"
But when you ask for the one thing that would actually prove his worth...that being evidence of what he does in the game...that's the one thing they can never provide. PROVIDE IT.
Again...if I were to ask you for evidence showing how good Marx, Eben, RG, Mostert, Duane, Faf, Pollard, Am, Kolbe, Arendse, Willie are...
Well that's pretty easy because there is actually evidence for it.
But no, DDA operates on some sublime level, only perceived by savants and mystics.
Give me a break!
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 May 2024, 12:25#25
The Mo’unga mess, was a replay of the Nonu mess…..both of which are clear examples of mental uncertainty. In both cases the tackle needed to be made….instead the runner was given a Dud escort to deep in the 22, where a simple pass secured the try.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 May 2024, 12:51#26
The rugby ignorance on this board is next level
You hear all this utter shit regarding DA and thank Rassie for not being as rugby stupid as you lot are
Imagine selecting such a shit 12 and still managing to win two WC’s back to back, not to mention a RC and Lions series
Maybe that’s where the genius in Rassie lies - select an utterly shit 12 as the decoy
Fucking joke
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 May 2024, 15:45#29
Twickers was a friendly it’s the only game in which Esterhuizen has made an impression
In his prior tests he was solid nothing special at all
Why because playing 12 in a test is a hard art
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
10 May 2024, 21:36#32
The ABs lose a man early in the game...
And our most capped and vaunted backline player fails to make any impact on the game which in any way drives some advantage for the Boks.
DDA was missing for most of the WC. He scored that try against France and had 1 or 2 runs against Ireland.
That's what the world's premier 12 gave us.
Pollard, Kriel, Faf, Willemse, Arendse and Kolbe all had games where they made huge differences and impacted the game in clearly positive ways for the Boks.
But the "best 12" in the game...he does the magic stuff that only the truly adept can see.
Give me a break.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2024, 10:30#34
The driveller is not known as dense Denise for nothing. A more ignorant twit and halfwit is hard to find although very unfortunately he does have competition on this board.Hahahahahaha. I wonder if the ignoramus knows that the Russians are advancing all along the front.
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
11 May 2024, 11:02#40
Aunty Denise...
I can stand a lot of things. But the undeniable stench of coward that wafts off of you is just a bridge too far.