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Dud Allende’s awful World Cup final

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2024, 22:11
#1
02 May 2024, 22:11#1

I posted the ESPN stats that were disputed. But having looked at the whole match they are right….all his runs were behind the advantage line, and they were as scarce as hen’s teeth. He had literally no impact at all with the ball in hand.


But he did kick twice tactically, once, into touch and the other easily fielded….both when the Boks had good attacking positions.


And he was the player who got the ball a meter out after the Kolisi run and was turned onto his back by Barrett. Super naturally powerful…..not!


So just a bunch of fails on attack….and a bunch of embarrassing flubs on defense. Stepped with ease by Taylor down the wing, isn’t that supposed to be the center stepping the hooker. Bounced by Barrett in a NZ build up in the last key minutes. And goose stepped and rounded by Mo’unga for a try that was fortunately called back.


There is absolutely nothing positive to report. Can we move on now and find a real inside center to create some excitement.





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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 May 2024, 22:21
#2
02 May 2024, 22:21#2
Bullshit he had a solid final - made a positive contribution, the first time he got the ball beating a defender and breaching the advantage line. I watched to minute 6 and just recall after watching Chasing the Sun 2 he had a very impactful WC Consistently the best 12 in the game for years now
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2024, 22:41
#3
02 May 2024, 22:41#3

Absolute balls….he had awful WC final. His best moment, the one you saw, was the one meter he gained in his 5 runs. Stop lying Dave.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 May 2024, 06:08
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03 May 2024, 06:08#4
One struggles to believe Dave did anything more than make photocopies at the law firm that was dumb enough to hire him. He watches 6 minutes and declares DDA had an impactful WC final. My guess is that whatever DDA did in those 6 minutes completely negated any negative contributions for the other 74 minutes. Gosh, he must have broken a bunch of tackles and run one in under the posts? Oh, wait, no, he tractored a couple of meters. And it was that meagre bit of tractoring which drove the fear of God into the ABs and caused them to lose the final...right, Fat Lip? ...he then sites a documentary as proof. Whahaha!!! This when the entire game is there, and he could timestamp all the "impactful" contributions. But...he NEVER will. DDA is black hole shaped like a donkey.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
03 May 2024, 07:58
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03 May 2024, 07:58#5

There are international props who have scored more test tries than DdA

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 08:57
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03 May 2024, 08:57#6
I’m not lying at all I said DA had a solid final - not great but certainly not awful. One thing is for certain is that he had a good WC, he was an integral part of our victory Watching Chasing the Sun 2 highlighted that for me Buttplug go fuck yourself you boring twat
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2024, 09:27
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03 May 2024, 09:27#7

Thi is the sec onmd De Allende thread started by Mozart this week,   He has another day to start a third one to go for  and one on Erasmus or Du Toit to complete his BS  threads of the week.    He  has repeated this thread at least 20 times before and one can expect the BS trend to continue.     

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 May 2024, 10:15
#8
03 May 2024, 10:15#8

He was the least effective back on the field. Did plenty of tackling, useless otherwise.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 10:20
#9
03 May 2024, 10:20#9
No he was not useless - bullshit How can you be useless if you are only involved 5 times with ball in hand - it was the nature of that game
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 May 2024, 10:41
#10
03 May 2024, 10:41#10

At this point, all old Fat Lip has left is to shout "Bullshit" and remind us that he's watched Chasing T he Sun 2.

lol

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2024, 11:13
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03 May 2024, 11:13#11

Would rather beliecve what Erasmus and oher players said about De  Allnde than what the site experts think about De Allende.   The latter do not have real stats about player activities available aand Ersmus and the playes have access to it.   That is how real eprformances are evaluated in the end.    .         

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 12:05
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03 May 2024, 12:05#12
Yep these dumbfucks will have us believe that we are number 1 in the game, having won back to back WC’s, a RC and a Lions series selecting a useless 12, one of the most important positions on the field, for the past how many years The joke is on them. Not rugby astute enough to appreciate or understand DA’s role in the side. They want to see 12’s with dancing feet, attacking space that does not exist. The fact that none of these 12’s exist in modern test rugby is a fact beyond their comprehension. It’s 2024 not 2004 Thank fuck Rassie knows and appreciates his worth at 12 and has done since day one. Rassie gets 99% of his calls spot on. Powder puff Mostert accounts for that 1% slip
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2024, 13:25
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03 May 2024, 13:25#14
So clearly Mostert outproduced Dud. The only forward who gained less metres than Dud was Bongi, who was on for a few minutes.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 13:26
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03 May 2024, 13:26#15
DA is class Mostert is physically weak - a complete liability where it counts Apart from process tackles and the odd line out take he is literally useless Imagine measuring a Bok lock by the number of process tackles he makes - now if only they were dominant tackles - something beyond powder puff
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2024, 13:51
#16
03 May 2024, 13:51#16

Actually quite a few of the Mostert tackles were cover tackles…taking the man who had broken the first line of defense. 

Dud was a disaster …..look no further than Mo’unga running right round him and gassing him for a Disallowed try. And the way Taylor stepped him….clueless in anything but process tackling. Perhaps the worst open field defender of any Bok  center incumbent. Brain freeze gets him every time.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 May 2024, 17:51
#17
03 May 2024, 17:51#17

Kakkest Bok 12 ever, with 2 RWC gold medals...Anda bronze...damn, he must be the luckiest passenger ever!!!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2024, 18:53
#18
03 May 2024, 18:53#18

Not really if he had tackled Nonu in 2015  his bronze could have been a gold.  You argue just like Dave when he is defending his favorites….. with complete intellectual dishonesty.

So he never allowed Mo’unga to run 40 metres, he never got stepped by a hooker , he made 50 metres not one, he never missed 4 tackles and he never kicked away good possession twice with two inept tactical kicks.

Happy now?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 May 2024, 20:06
#19
03 May 2024, 20:06#19
No Moz you got it completely wrong so wrong in fact it makes you look stupid. So instead of stating the facts, let me ask you the question. We know inside centre is one of the most important positions in a rugby side right? If this is the case then why oh why would Rassie select him from the day he took over the reigns and has never deviated from that selection? This despite the presence of pretty handy alternatives in Esterhuizen, Janse v Rensburg and Serfontein. So how did we win two WC’s back to back, a RC, a Lions series and attain the number 1 spot in the game with as shit as 12 as you say he is? Answer me these two questions Bottom line is you are out of touch with modern rugby, you don’t appreciate DA’s value but worst of all you are of the impression other test 12’s out there are playing a different game. Reality is that making an impression as a centre in test match rugby these days is a very tough gig - so much so that we don’t see coaches retain the same players for any length of time. How often have the likes of Tuilagi, Aki, Henshaw, Kerevi, Danty and Tuipolotu retained their spots at 12. Hell the AB’s have tried hell knows how many 12’s and now seem to have settled on Jordie, a retrenched fullback You just don’t get it Moz - at all - but thankfully Rassie does
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 May 2024, 02:07
#20
04 May 2024, 02:07#20

Dave ….you don’t get it. Here are Pollard’s attacking numbers for the WC final. Six runs for 38 metres …..why? Because if you look at the game you will notice on a number of occasions he attacks the gain line at pace. Dud just doesn’t.



H PollardFH0116380110

Here are Barrett’s numbers, 6 defenders beaten:
J BarrettC0161647060


Of course centers can still make a clean break and create tries. Eluckmiss has a game plan in which structured back play is ignored. You kick, you defend, you get penalties and turnover ball. You eliminate risk….he believes in it. 
He doesn’t believe in ball in hand rugby. How this is going to work with the new coaches is hard to see, unless he feels he has earned the right the take a flier….see if it works. If it doesn’t there is always Ox and box kicks.




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 May 2024, 04:28
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04 May 2024, 04:28#21

Mozart

You lied on site as to what happened in the case of the 2015 semi and is now back to further lying.   Read the following  ag ain and see why y ou lied:-

 Not really if he had tackled Nonu in 2015  his bronze could have been a gold.  You argue just like Dave when he is defending his favorites….. with complete intellectual dishonesty . 

Nonu tried to get away from  De Allende and ran cross-field,   De Allende followed him and TACKLED him.    So you were  not intellectually dishonest - you are just a liar.   When you discussed this incident  for must be the hundredth time since 2015 - when it was pointed out that De Allende did tackle Nonu you claimed you never said he did not make the tackle on Nonu - and challenged me to tprove where  you said he did nto make  the tackle - so which was a lie as to what happened?   Suppose as per nromal you lie costantly on rugby issues and even repeat  your lie again.       .

       



    


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 May 2024, 06:24
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04 May 2024, 06:24#22
Dud can't attack the gainline at pace because he doesn't have any. He's easily the slowest back the Boks have. Even after Pollard's injuries, he's faster than Dud. Dud also has almost no aggression. You look at Kolbe and Arendse and the intent present in their hits...hell, even Am hits harder and he's a bloody 13. They have technique and they have heart. They have aggression. Dude wants to bear hug people. Dud has the most limited distribution ability of any of the Bok backs. He's slow to think, slow to pass and generally dies with the ball. Dud's decision making suffers from serious latency. He glitches out, and reverts to kicking possession away. I mean, since when are we supposed to accept that a 12, with a 2 man overlap, should be kicking the ball? Oh yeah, in the upside down land of mystics and savants. All these arguments, like the extremely long post the Fat Lip made above, don't provide any evidence of Dud's ability... "Coach picks him - he must be good." "He has been in the winning team - he must be good." "He has X amount of caps...he must be good." "Rugby has changed...he must be good" "Everybody is stupid...he must be good" But when you ask for the one thing that would actually prove his worth...that being evidence of what he does in the game...that's the one thing they can never provide. PROVIDE IT. Again...if I were to ask you for evidence showing how good Marx, Eben, RG, Mostert, Duane, Faf, Pollard, Am, Kolbe, Arendse, Willie are... Well that's pretty easy because there is actually evidence for it. But no, DDA operates on some sublime level, only perceived by savants and mystics. Give me a break!
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
04 May 2024, 10:38
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04 May 2024, 10:38#23

He put two Irishmen on their asses and ran in an unopposed try against the French. These are the little moments that feed the hype machine. M'ounga making him look like the clueless carthorse he is in a try scoring play that thankfully got called back doesn't feature.

I looked back at my comments during the Scotland game. Here are some of DDA's contributions:

Boks go wide, DA takes the contact and carries three players into touch. Ball dead, move dead. Surprise surprise.

DA entertaining us with more "best 12 in the world" play.

DA's passes find no one because no one can keep up with the advanced Best 12 In the World game that he is playing.

DA burrows again, Boks lose possession at the breakdown.

And DA now held up, ball Scotland. What a champ.

Check out the Esterhuizen video someone posted recently, see how quickly the ball is available and recycled after Esterhuizen takes contact. There's your difference. DDA is the slow motion man, where good ball slows down and dies.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 May 2024, 12:21
#24
04 May 2024, 12:21#24

The cul de sac!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 May 2024, 12:25
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04 May 2024, 12:25#25
The Mo’unga mess, was a replay of the Nonu mess…..both of which are clear examples of mental uncertainty. In both cases the tackle needed to be made….instead the runner was given a Dud escort to deep in the 22, where a simple pass secured the try.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 May 2024, 12:51
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04 May 2024, 12:51#26
The rugby ignorance on this board is next level You hear all this utter shit regarding DA and thank Rassie for not being as rugby stupid as you lot are Imagine selecting such a shit 12 and still managing to win two WC’s back to back, not to mention a RC and Lions series Maybe that’s where the genius in Rassie lies - select an utterly shit 12 as the decoy Fucking joke
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
04 May 2024, 13:19
#27
04 May 2024, 13:19#27

A better 12 and we may squeak in by more than 1 point more frequently .

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 May 2024, 15:41
#28
04 May 2024, 15:41#28

I’d  say Twickenham proves  your point Pakie….at worst it demonstrated Allende would not be missed. As Gilbert and Sullivan wrote of people they didn’t rate:

‘ You may put 'em on the list — you may put 'em on the list;

And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed!’
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 May 2024, 15:45
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04 May 2024, 15:45#29
Twickers was a friendly it’s the only game in which Esterhuizen has made an impression In his prior tests he was solid nothing special at all Why because playing 12 in a test is a hard art
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 May 2024, 19:32
#30
10 May 2024, 19:32#30

Mampara Mavin the ultimate Mong!.

Dave how you put up with this drivel on a daily basis is amazing. 

As for Plum isn't it time he changed his name to prune. He is becoming anotherDoos!!! Hahahahahaha. 

Wonder when ou Doos will sneak back with a new handle.

Dave you are dealing with some oaks here who don't understand the game. They lack Rugby acumen in a big way. The game for them is just too difficult to comprehend hence their continuing absurd drivel. 

And no Marvin the change of name won't help your cred. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 May 2024, 20:07
#31
10 May 2024, 20:07#31

Look what the cat dragged in…..did you find any ‘cred’ out there HasBeen? Any Colonel McGregor updates for us ……LMAOFY!

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 May 2024, 21:36
#32
10 May 2024, 21:36#32
The ABs lose a man early in the game... And our most capped and vaunted backline player fails to make any impact on the game which in any way drives some advantage for the Boks. DDA was missing for most of the WC. He scored that try against France and had 1 or 2 runs against Ireland. That's what the world's premier 12 gave us. Pollard, Kriel, Faf, Willemse, Arendse and Kolbe all had games where they made huge differences and impacted the game in clearly positive ways for the Boks. But the "best 12" in the game...he does the magic stuff that only the truly adept can see. Give me a break.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 May 2024, 09:43
#33
11 May 2024, 09:43#33

Poor old Buttplug desperately trying to impress by sounding clever and knowledgeable.

Bwhahahahaha

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2024, 10:30
#34
11 May 2024, 10:30#34
The driveller is not known as dense Denise for nothing. A more ignorant twit and halfwit is hard to find although very unfortunately he does have competition on this board.Hahahahahaha. I wonder if the ignoramus knows that the Russians are advancing all along the front. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 May 2024, 10:32
#35
11 May 2024, 10:32#35

Long time no see, Brian. Welcome back.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2024, 10:39
#36
11 May 2024, 10:39#36

Sorry not back. I am very busy on a number of platforms providing political truth bombs. 

Biden is sinking like a stone. Lawfare against Trump collapsing. War in Ukraine going the way of Rusdia and lots of info coming out on election fraud and tbe deadly jabs. 

Amazed at how little information is coming out on many issues. 

Ignorance rules. Congrats to Mike though for providing some light. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2024, 10:46
#37
11 May 2024, 10:46#37

In other words don't have much time to educate the Mamparas lead by Mampara Marvin the total Mong. 

Where I ask would you find such an ignorant bigoted crew like Marvintard, the very D ense Denise, sharktwit, Blobbrain and STAVASS. The clowns making up the very frot five. 

Bwahahahahahaha. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 May 2024, 10:49
#38
11 May 2024, 10:49#38

Dense may I suggest you stop sucking on the teat of the Globalist Fake News propaganda machines.

It's astounding that at this stage anybody still has any faith in these liars. 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 May 2024, 10:49
#39
11 May 2024, 10:49#39

Thanks Brian but you can go now.

Now there's a good sport.

Bye Brian.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 May 2024, 11:02
#40
11 May 2024, 11:02#40
Aunty Denise... I can stand a lot of things. But the undeniable stench of coward that wafts off of you is just a bridge too far.
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