Dud Allende’s awful World Cup final

Yes, you reek of cowardice. The worst trait in a man.

I'm re-watching the Lions series. On game 2 and Mostert has been massive. All over the park all game long. Seriously, how does this absolute warrior of a player fly under the radar for some? Lood being subbed on for Wiese at 60 mins. Strange call really, considering that Rassie apparently prefers a fit Lood to Mostert all day long. The Boks absolutely grinding the Lions down in this game.

It’s simple Mostert brings zero physicality to the game - the prime responsibility of a test lock It’s not to run around full of heart and energy making process tackles It’s to make dominant tackles, it’s to impose yourself physically with ball in hand or in cleaning out players (which includes cleaning out an 18 year old Georgian fullback) and to provide physical grunt in the engine room. Mostert provides none of this. Bok locks should be physical, Mostert is a physical liability

Everytime PSDT takes contact he gains forward momentum as do Eben, Lood and RG. Mostert gets stopped in his tracks or smashed backwards or losses possession as he did twice in the WC The primary role of a lock is certainly not taking line out ball it’s certainly one of his roles - the primary role of any tightforward is to impose himself physically be it in tackles, runs, clean outs, mauling and scrumming Why a player that lacks size, grunt and physicality has played as many tests as he has is beyond me. Small thin frame with narrow shoulders It’s Rassie’s biggest failing is investing in this guy - I don’t get that Rassie does not see past all the heart, energy and durability. Give me a real lock anyday. Everytime I see Grobelaar of the Sharks playing I just think what a far better player he is than Mostert. They are similar in age and stature although Grobelaar has a good 6kg on Mostert but he is far more athletic, makes far more impressions in general play and is far far more rugby intelligent. How is it that Mostert has made it but Grobelaar not when he is clearly the smarter and better rugby player? I rate Grobelaar but he would not be my choice ahead of Mostert - my list is an extensive one

Saffex, I think you need to watch some old matches back. Go and watch the second Lions test. Remember we lost the first one. Mostert stood up to be counted and was making hits from minute 1 to 80...crossing the width of the field to do so at times. You can't watch that and claim he's a powder puff. And there so many games like that. Crucial ones, where the warrior stands up and puts himself on the line for the cause. To be honest, I don't generally ever suffer from fan boy syndrome, but I'd absolutely love to have beer with Sous, and just tell him that there are those of us that are in awe of that heart in his chest. One of my favorite all-time Boks for sure.

Yes he makes plenty of tackles I’m not disputing that but they are never the monster hits we see from the likes of Eben and PSDT in that WC final. He has plenty of heart and plenty of energy. He is also extremely durable - he literally never gets injured. My problem with him is that, call me a traditionalist, but I want to see big physical players as our Bok locks, especially in this modern age where plenty of time is spent in the gym, something clearly Mostert avoids. While it is handy that he makes all those tackles is it really the job of a lock to do so? No, if anything that should be your loosies. I want to see physically imposing locks and props in my Bok side, well any side for that matter. That lack of physicality shows in his inability to impose himself with ball in hand, making clean outs or tackling. That frustrates the crap out of me. He is no doubt a great guy and a good team man, he embodies the fight but is not suitably equipped to really enforce all that fight I’ve always maintained that had he bulked up to a respectable 120kg player he would have been a real asset. Some players hate the gym, he is clearly one of them. It’s clear that Rassie in a perfect world sees Mostert as a handy bench option for when Lood is fit then Lood always starts I was really irritated with the fact that with Lood out, Mostert started ahead of RG in the WC. Lood is good but RG is next level. I suspect that given RG was only recently back from a long lay off, Rassie felt he did not have enough game time under the belt to start immediately or that he wanted to spread the strength of the 23 across the starting side and bench, hence Ox and sometimes Marx find themselves on the bench There is no way in hell Rassie rates Mostert over RG, simply impossible so there has to be another reason for RG not starting Bottom line is I have no time for players that lack the benchmark physicality for a particular position - Mostert, Orie, Nortje, Albert vd Bergh, Robbie Kempson, Tom Smith, Brok Harris etc

You claim Mostert is a liability, but all I see is real dependable, very good Rugby player that is always present…a person can argue that players like RG or Lood is more of a liability due to there extensive injuries? I rate RG as he is big but mobile, but Lood is not that mobile just a good lineout option. Our Younger inform Locks is a better option then Lood and also building for the future…we are covered with Eben, RG and Mostert to show the Ropes to the new locks.

You miss my point - he lacks physicality - I expect my Bok locks to be physical, Mostert is not If he was a linking openside flanker then a lack of physicality could be excused but not for a test lock So no I don’t rate Mostert, never have, never will. It’s not the job of a lock to make 15 tackles a game. That would be a pleasant bonus if he was imposing himself physically on the charge, in mauls, cleaning out and defending

Mostert is not as physical as Eben or RG, but physical enough to hold with best. It’s his all round capabilities as a good Rugby player and that is what stands out. His stature is no liability but rather a blessing….as it gave him immense durability.

Bullshit he is not physical enough at all - never makes metres in contact. Fuck me he could not even clean out the 18 year old Georgian fullback - that’s how physically inept he is. There is no grunt in his skinny frame and narrow shoulders He weighs no more than de Allende and Esterhuizen has 6kg on him. Centres vs a lock, it’s a joke

What is Lood's average tackle count per game? I think it's probably around 6-9. Mostert's is probably around 13-16. How often does Lood smash the attacker backwards? Maybe once or twice per game? So it's an easy choice, give me the guy that makes on average 4-7 more tackles per game over the guy that makes 1-2 smashing tackles. ...even more so when you consider that the Boks have plenty of forwards that already smash attackers backwards. The higher tackle count wins.

Lood has a surprisingly high tackle count probably on average 4 less than Mostert but smashing players backwards is not the only consideration when it comes to imposing your physicality. It applies when you carry the ball in traffic, when you maul, when you defend a maul, when you clean a player out, when you scrum and when you defend. In short pretty much 70% of the game But having said that there is no way I would start Lood ahead of RG and in fact I’d have Ruben v Heerden on the bench as my bench lock ahead of Lood - we need to move on. Eben and RG to start and there are few young options for the bench - Ruben v Heerden, Ruan Vermaak and Moerat spring to mind