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Dud Allende the toothless

Started by Mozart10 REPLIES1,464 VIEWS· 23 Mar 2022, 19:29
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Mar 2022, 19:29
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23 Mar 2022, 19:29#1

So as usual there are those on here who believe Dud Allende is the best centre in the game….and that has some support amongst the moronic rugby media, basically because the Boks are ranked number one.


But the facts tell a sad story to the contrary. Dud ran the ball 87 times in 2021. He made 2, that’s right 2, clean breaks. He beat a paltry  17 defenders, 5 in one game against the Bargies. For the rest he beat a defender every 6 runs! He had zero tries and 1 try assist against Scotland.


To all intents and purposes he tractored up or ran through open space with no impact on the games….1 try assist all year is what he contributed.


Kerevi by contrast beat 6 tackles in the first Bok test….made a clean break and a try assist. Poor Dud, faced with Kerevi never beat one tackle in the two tests…..completely dominated.

So there are the facts, something our rugby writers never bother to explore. And they validate the irrelevant role Dud plays.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
25 Mar 2022, 12:38
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25 Mar 2022, 12:38#2
These are some damning evidence and makes a person wonder why R&N will insist on carrying on with DA at 12....I personally think it’s because he fits perfectly into there boring gameplan....but as we all have seen, top tier teams are catching on quickly how to beat the Boks.....we need change to give us more dimensions to our game.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2022, 13:56
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25 Mar 2022, 13:56#3

Mozart has two really [problematic attributes, those being - 

*  petty hatred of performing players that at one stage competed for selection with his favorites for selection to the Springbok team; and

*  a persistent admiration for duds that led the Springboks down for years.

He based his arguments on anything he dreams up and sometimes  selective stats - whenever a petty hate player performs well he ignored their real performance record and discover his own story about what happened.

An example was a so-called try scoring opportunity created by Le roux in the WCC final.  According to him Le Roux made a break in the English 22 carrying the ball 20 meters  that set up a try-scoring opportunity, but De Allende was not there to receive his pass.   In the first instance  there was no try-scoring opportunity - the so-called break which entails an attempt to run in between Ford and Farrell happened just inside the 10 meter line and in the whole match ball-carrying gain of Le Roux was 6 meters and not 20 meters indicated by Mozart.    There was no gap between Ford and Farrell into which De Allende could run - it a occupied by the two English players and after 6 meter carrying Le Roux was tackled by Ford and tried to pass the ball to  Kolbe who somehow catch the poor pass - but was immediately tackled outside of the 22 - and De Allende covered the breakdown and prevented the English to take over the possession at the breakdown.

That is just one of many anti-De Allende stories dreamed up by Mozart.    He ahs repeated the Kerevi story 50 times already - in one test in Australia last year Kerevi did  better than De Allende in ball carries in the test after that De Allende did better than Kerevi.  

The same BS is repeated every time by Mozart and I wonder whether he thinks that repeating it will make thinking people  believing him.   .

            


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MpowerPro5,061 posts
25 Mar 2022, 15:42
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25 Mar 2022, 15:42#4
DA is already 30 years old and it’s quite easy to see, if you have a open mind that is, that he has always lacked play making skills.....I will not argue that the guy is strong, good in taking contact.... but it is so vital that a 12 has those play making skills, rock solid defence (the foresight in correct field placement) and the ability to score tries...not to hammer to much on the guy, but for a 12 he is lacking to much of these vital attributes and other 12,s will bring the spark that is needed for our midfield to really work + R&N bringing in the necessary changes to there gameplan.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2022, 20:46
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25 Mar 2022, 20:46#5

Totally botched try scoring opportunity. Willie through the half gap, ready to feed the ball to the next man  Dud Allende with an open line. Dud’s brain had another implosion and he meandered inside trotting behind Farrell. The man is epically dumb.

Imagine a 12 who in 12 tests contributes 1 assist. I’m not bothered to do the numbers but I’m pretty sure Dud has the lowest strike rate of all our incumbent centres since readmission. A robot at best.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Mar 2022, 07:26
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26 Mar 2022, 07:26#6

The rest of the men consisted on Kolbe - there were no space that De Allende could run into.  That half gab story and your version were based on distortion anyway.   There were zero try-scoring opportunity in that case and the cross -defense was in place anyway.   That type of BS coming from you is normal in your case.    .   

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
26 Mar 2022, 09:40
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26 Mar 2022, 09:40#7
Lol Kerevi is everything you want from a 12. Realistically, when you break down each of the attributes a 12 should have and then give the guys a score out of ten, i can think of only one category where DDA score similarly to Kerevi… Everywhere else, Kerevi smokes him…like absolutely smokes him. To this day, DDA scored one game changing try, against Wales and it was more down to terrible defending than anything spectacular on the part of Lame Duim. It’s an emperors clothes thing with Damien. Apparently if you can’t see the skill that isn’t on display then you’re a rugby noob.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Mar 2022, 01:45
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27 Mar 2022, 01:45#8

Yep…a classic case of  the emperor’s clothes.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Mar 2022, 09:51
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27 Mar 2022, 09:51#9

Kerevi plays for Aus...we have DdA...we have to put up with him, warts and all, until someone better comes along...for the game Rassie's Bokke play, Damien is more than adequate...there's nobody who would be clearly better for the Bokke. 

I also would like some other players given a go from the bench...at 12 and some other positions, but it is clear that Russie doesn't hand out caps on a whim...consistency is probably Rassie and Jacques greatest strength as a coaching pair.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Mar 2022, 20:32
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29 Mar 2022, 20:32#10
de Allende is the best 12 in the game - most on here are too rugby ignorant to appreciate his worth in the Bok side and equally are under the deluded illusion that other test centres are somehow setting the world alight in a test environment dominated by limited space and very structured defences It’s the same fools who see no value in PSDT but are stupid enough to tell us how great Mostert is. Thing is our results and world standing makes a mockery of their takes on these players We are WC champs, Lions champs and world number 1 because of players like DA and PSDT DA is the best 12 in the game just like PSDT is by far the best blindside in the game. It’s thanks to the fact that we have the best coach in the game in Rassie who sees the value in these players
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Mar 2022, 20:56
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29 Mar 2022, 20:56#11

What results….being beaten twice by Oz because Kerevi dominated Dud. For Dud to be the best….taking gaps, beating defenders, creating tries and scoring tries are of no value…..because Dud ranks low on all 4 measures as the stats I provided clearly demonstrate.


But you’re right the Duds were nothing until we started winning, after which they were credited for us winning. A laughably easy assertion  to blow up….we were hopelessly losing against the Lions until Duhan monstered Dud Toit and he was out for the series, after which we were easy winners.


Easy pickings Dave!

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