Dud Toit’s tests this year

That’s 8 tests started……5 tests lost. And there are guys on here who still believe this washed out player is essential to the Bok cause.

So writr5e the same on De Allende - then we know that idiocy in rugby knowledge is really in your case really unlimited.   Just remember rugby is a team sport and individuals do not cause losses by their mere presence in the teams.     All the other players mostly played in the same tests as the two mentioned - why are they not similarly criticized?  

Because our overall record was a poor 8 wins and 5 losses…not 3 wins and 5 losses. If your brain can handle the complexity, that means Dud Toit started in every one of our losses and we won every match in which he didn’t play.

Mozart - Mozart - Mozart

You cannot be that rugby idiotic to come up with BS like the above.     

There's a very simple way of looking at this. If a player has a low win percentage, they are not part of successful teams. If they have a low level of production, they cannot be an integral part of any success a team has, aside from few isolated incidents. Steph is a consistently porous defender, and is a rather meager carrier. Where can it be said that he is an integral contributor? Therefore, we can deduce that he is a presence that either has little to no influence to the teams he plays for - who we see are not very successful, or he is one of the reasons for that lack of success. Simples Mr Michael. 

PSDT is importand cog in the Bok clockwork...disputing that is nonsensical...the whple team is much better than the naysayers would let us believe...we are miles ahead of where we've been before the last 5 RWCs ...only the 99 team was arguably in a better space less than a year off.

PSDT is importand cog in the Bok clockwork...disputing that is nonsensical...the whole team is much better than the naysayers would have us believe...we are miles ahead of where we've been before the last 5 RWCs...only the 99 team was arguably in a better space less than a year out.

What does he do? He misses the most tackles, concedes the most clean breaks, which puts the team under enormous pressure. In 2019 I looked at pressure in terms of phases conceded from a defensive lapse before pressure was relieved; Steph accounted for around  50% of this pressure. As a carrier, he ranks at the bottom of any collection of players you can assemble. In 2019, I rated him against the top 30 carriers in South African rugby, and he ranked 27th. At test level, he ranked a little less than that. He isn't good in the lineout, scrums, breakdown. So what is it that he does that is so indispensable to the Bok game? Seeing as th e only thing this team does well is the lineout and maul, it would have to be there. 

He's got heart and passion...he lifts the team...similar to Mostert...mostert is also error prone, but he always seems to make a game changing contribution at a crucial stage.

Mostert’s got heart and passion….and rugby smarts. He gets himself to the point of contact, does many things to ensure good ball and sound defense. Dud Toit was given license to be a Rover which worked once, in the WC final because Ford never had the guts to step his banshee charges and take the gap they left.

If the team never lost when he was absent, how can he be an essential cog. He is an ornament not a cog.

"Mostert’s got heart and passion…."

Agreed, but not quite as much...there's a reason he's not first choice.

Sure…Dud Toit at flank is one of Harrassmiss’ great ideas. He will be first choice as long as the fat man is coach. Oh I forgot, he isn’t.

I understand the point you are making Dave, Mostert is not a ball carrier….but nor is Dud Toit. Actually I have to confess I was stunned when I realized we won every match this year Dud wasn’t starting. The same was true in the Lions series which turned around the moment Duhan dumped Dud.

Something about his presence actually weakens the team and it’s not just his flaccid running and vulnerable open field defence. I’m guessing it must have something to do with the way he becomes the focal point with the other players relegated to supporting roles.

You have made thus far nearly 37 000 posts on this site.   My bet is that of those a third dealt with Du Toit and De Allende in rugby and De Kock in cricket.    Are you never getting tired of repeating the same BS on site.?          

And you have made 47000 …..40000 of which have been about me. Give it a rest.

The argument goes Dud Toit lifts the Bok performance. There are players who do that…Oz isn’t the same team without Kerevi. Dud Toit clearly isn’t one of them.

Perspective...

Du Toit has had two great tests: The win against Australia in 2018, and the loss to England in 2018. There has been nothing of that since that time. Nothing like that before its time. This isn't relativistic perspective, but a truth tangibly deduced by any analytical point in his game and film review.