Eben Eztebeth wins Gold for Wrestling throw

https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/watch%3A-eben-etzebeth

I see Stade has started to win matches after the departure of  Meyer - good for them.

Was Eben's father not into wrestling or was it his uncle?    He seems to know h ow to handle  opponents.   LMAO        

Strong guy, but a fair bit of momentum there. 

A goliath of a man coupled with freakish strength.

Correct me if I'm wrong...he comes from Czech /Afrikaans background.

Elena says Czech men are very strong big and powerful, usually as they come from Celtic, Slavic and Germanic origins.

Gustav Frištenský (18 May 1879 – 6 April 1957) was a Czech strongman, Greco-Roman  professional wrestler who competed in the first half of the 20th century. During his career, he won almost 10,000 fights, the first one when he was just 19 years old and the last one when he was 72. He is considered the strongest Czech and a legendary symbol of strength for many Czechs.[1

In tennis players you had Ivan Lendl and Martina Navratilova who were very strong players.

Cannot find any other sports people, in rugby (or any physical sport) of Czech blood.

Joel Stransky's grandfather was Czech but he was Jewish and relatively small and played flyhalf and not applicable and did not have any physical presence except perhaps skill.

PS Etzebeth is very rare name, not many but it seems from records most are from England.

The name certainly is not Czech, maybe somewhere along the line on his mothers side or maybe a name change for various reasons...in the past people were ostracized if they came from Eastern Europe.

I cannot remember where I read it but perhaps it's a family reason.  

I read somewhere that the Cape Town Etzebeth family immigrated from Russia (or some other East Bloc country)...and Etzebeth is the Russian version of the name Elizabeth...might have been a newspaper article.

His late uncle Cliffie was the world champion wrestler in his age group at 65 I think...also played prop for WP in the 70's and 80's IIRC.

Seb

Etzebeth is a Hungarian surname,    Until the collapse of the  Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1918 - which included the later Czech Republic and Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and even part of Poland - there were substantial movement of people within the empire and it is rather likely that the Etzebeths in England fled from Hungary and the communist regime or even before when Hungary was under a  series of dictators.

One of the main bridges  over the Danube is the Etzebeth Bridge in Budapest- but was called that after the Empress Elizabeth of Austria-Hungary, who was very popular in Hungary.                    

Ja, my uncle is friends with Ebens dad and they are both big wrestlers. I think there are quite a few brothers. But my uncle and Eben dad use to compete a lot against each other. 

I think a couple of my older cousins use to wrestle against them for the SA champs. 

He showed good technique to toss the a 100kg winger like a rag doll. 

There were some other comments saying that he should be sighted for his throw. But I think it was great of the French to measure the distance. 

We really need more of this

Also, does that fall under midget tossing given Eben extra height and that he is in a different class and therefore need to use bigger midgets to toss where as if you were 1.7m your midget would have to be smaller. 

W ondering what is the correct height if we were to have a fair midget tossing contest

Just asking

You saying Eben is a tosser?...How far do you think he can toss Rooi?...hight, girth and weight should play a part in the "handicap" of sorts...

Etzebeth has a very semitic ring to it. The Danites have had a strong presence in Europe for the better part of 3000 years, so that is a point of interest to me. 

"Danites"

The Vikings?

There used to be in the early Bronze  Age apparently a Greek pirate grouping called the Danites - and also allegations that the Danites were part of  the Jewish tribe of Dan - but the historians could find no real evidence of  any association  if such a grouping existing at the time of Christ or there- after.   Anyway after the destruction of Jerusalem in  72AC the Jewish people settled all  over Europe  and was oppressed so many ended up in the Ottoman Empire  and Russia where they were tolerated until the 19th  century when the Government  started to oppress them.   

The Hungarians  are descended  from the Magyar tribe that came from what is today central Asia and are basically descendants of Atilla the Hun's people -  even today Atilla is a popular name given to Hungarian children.    Fact is the Roman  Empire gave the area comprising Hungary to the Huns to settle there in the 5th century AC,   As stated it is proven that the name  Etzebeth is a term/name  of Hungarian origin.           

The Vikings coming from the present Scandinavia  devastated Europe for  about 400 years and it is not clear what their influence would be on surnames other than the adding of "son" to many surnames used in the UK and other countries in WE.   

What the "Danites" h ave to do with it baffles me exceedingly - maybe AO can enlighten us on that one,        

It is indeed a Hunga rian name and you are right about the Danube  bridge. The distance between Hungary and Czech Rep is about 250 miles. In 1992 Czechoslovakia was divided  in 2. Slovakia became separate hence Czech Republic. Hungary is near enough to have cross border movement.

I heard Eben has a Czech ancestory somewhere in the archives of time...seems very believable...he definitely has extraordinary genes somewhere that possibly give this freakish strength.

There is a difference between Bakkies type build and strength to Ebens.

Seb

There were no borders before 1918 and legally after 1867 -

*    the present Czech Republic was part of the kingdom of Austria; and

*   Slovakia was part of the kingdom of Hungary,

There were no kings though -  the Emperor was the actually de-facto king of both,