Ed .Is this still a rugby forum or a soapbox for beenos religious and political views? ?

Its got to where its putting people off posting ,heck even some of the regular saffa posters have literally begged him to stop with his reams and reams of cut and paste nonsense filling up the board .Personally I dont care what religion or politics someone holds dear but its getting on the nose when its constantly pushed at you .I know for a fact that its putting some people off posting here and its a damn shame .All so one poster can impose his views on others.

Agreed!!!

 ...Yea might be time to wind up the forum seeing the SA rugby teams are rubbish and half of their players have shot through.... and their cricket team is rubbish...nothing much to talk about there so we get all this alarmist rubbish about religious zealots from Henny Penny...we got enough of that at Sunday school to last a lifetime for gawdsake...not really the place to be promoting fas cist right wing demagogues either - just wanna talk rugby...

 Bwahahahahahahahhaha poor little warpie DUD goes crying to the ED. I suppose he has had his fat butt kicked too hard. Hahahahahahahahaha
Listen you silly little twit, your comments here have been outrageous time and again and needed correcting time and again. Dont think you are the only one who has freedom of speach.
If you dont like it go and close  the door behind you. 
What a pong wee warpie DUD creates on thsi board!! 
Have there ever been more hypocritical and lieing words utter by a bigger buffoon?

 I cant be bothered reading your great pile of steaming nonsense ,how many times do you need to shove your garbage down peoples throats ? When you have one of your own ,a long time and respected posters begging you to stop with the religion and politics what does that tel you ? As for my comments being outrageous I notice that apart from becs all the replies in the negative have been at YOU pinhead .You even co-opt threads that have absolutely nothing to do with religion or politics ,your turning a great rugby forum into the nasty mess inside that otherwise empty stadia atop your shoulders .Notice how many of the regular posters cant be arsed coming on here even during the RWC ? Thats all you ya sqeazer .And try to at least spell properly idiot.

Wardad, the guys a bean counting moron who has nothing to do at work all day. He doesn't have the balls to confront people in real life so he has to come on here to spew his bullscrap. And yeah, he'll call the stuff you say "ludicrous" and the point to a book that has no evidence to back it up as evidence that you are an idiot. I support you 100%. The odd discussion the heads in religious debate directions is fine by me. But when some idiot starts to overrun the board with hate speech and tries to back it up with fringe bullscrap articles...that's when I've had my fill too. He does however live very near to some Cape Malay mates who are in fact Muslim and I may invite them to this board to see what he has to say. If it's his right to say what he wants, then surely it's my right to invite anyone here to listen to what he says...and if he ticks them off, well it's their right to be ticked off huh!?

Flash Dakota aka. Ed, drop the cricket section & introduce a 'Kakpraatkamer ' (talksh!teroom) instead, please . Works well at Kamp SS .

 
Come now Wardad ... that's a crock and you know it.

Never figured you for a whinger.

I think you've been hanging around the sodomite a little more than what's good for you.

Leave Beandip to do his thing.

I found a lot of interesting facts from his recent posts and am better off for it.

 CC  I have no probs people saying where theyre at with regards to religion or politics or what have you but there comes a point when enough is enough .There are plenty of other sites that deal with all that and like most people on here I  have  had enough with metres of cut and paste nonsense over and over again ad infinitum .Its boring and just p!sses most people off .I want some rugby banter and to see other peoples opinions on rugby on a rugby site ,plus a few other interesting points of view on other things of interest .But over and over with the islamaphobia  and the adoration of lowlifes like putin and trump mixed in with some of his dimwitted creationist twaddle is beyond the pale .We get that he hates muslim and wants to lick trumps boots .Enough I say .

 
When last did you contribute something rugby orientated?

It's been awhile, huh?

Every time I come aboard all I see is you giving it to Beandip. In fact it looks as if your following him around on the board just to stick it to him.

Why is that?

Yes we too are fully aware that you despise Beandip ... you've said so many times ... we are also aware of how you feel about the creationists, the Christians ... and how you support the muslims over them ... and that too is boring and tiresome.

Perhaps it's time you think about your own contribution on this site ... instead of whinging like a baby and pointing fingers at others ...

 Utter sh!t ,already posted about 2 rugby matters below this ,and this particular thread is directed at me so you dont have much of a point do you ? As far as beendip is concerned I do as I always do and give it back in equal measure .And when did you last post about rugby ? This is my point theres precious little rugby being talked on here and you arent making any more contributions than I  am.Not all christians are creationists and its not just me who finds this tiresome and I dont support ANY religion .

 @Wardad I cannot recall you and  me having serious issues, bar the normal banter, and I do not intend turning this into a handbags at 10 type of thing. 
Having said that, you have been having a go at South Africans and SA rugby for  some time and you seem to find it quite comforting to rubbish Saffas and our rugby. You have  now resorted to calling for the board to be shut down a few times as well. You do not seem to enjoy it much  on here for a while now, for some reason. I am a firm believer of the old forum principle of "If you don't like it, ignore it".
I cannot prescribe what you should do but there is one clear option. It is the other old forum principle of FIFO. Fit in or F Off.

 I want also one pronouncement from the editors of this site about this issue.

This is not about some posters being more or less outrageous, this is about using this site to promote a hate speech against the muslims. The hate speech is prosecuted by many legal systems around the world and it's expressly excluded in all the countries from the freedom of expression. Specifically, the South African constitution in its section 16.2 states:

The right (to freedom of expression) in subsection (1) does not extend to -
(a) propaganda for war;
(b) incitement of imminent violence; or
(c) advocacy of hatred that is based on race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and that constitutes incitement to cause harm.

(taken from HATE SPEECH IN SOUTH AFRICA)
This last point is very clearly the case of what some posters here have been constantly doing during the last 2 months. You can find countless examples of this hate speech, just some of the lasts:

"These filthy muslims are using their religion as an excuse to do as they please,..... we need a hardcore approach on this filth ... expel them all ... burn their mosques down to the ground ... and those who break the law should be punished accordingly.
For the rapist ... he should be raped ..."  CleanCut

"Muslims will always be working to take over and impose sharia law and do jihad - all this is koran based....
 (this quote is about a hoax running in internet brought to this site by Beeno1, as hoaxes and lies are all what he posts) the Mayor should have written thsi letter and inde3ed so should all mayors tell these musloim invaders exactly where to get off.
The composer of this piece deserves amdeal for such an excellent article. These sentiments are so spot on everyone shoud read this article. Just take out hte mayor bit and say how Mayors should respond to muslim demands to take over the country." Beeno1

And, finally, this is about having to bear every single day endless cut&paste of hoaxes, lies and manipulated news that one member of this site, Beeno1, constantly posts to promote his hate speech against the muslims. This antimuslim propaganda is offensive for many people, for me in particular, and has to stop.

 @CleanCut,

So you find "a lot of interesting facts from his recent posts", uh?

and how about if I post every f*cking single day in every single thread  endless cut&paste of antichristian propaganda or endless articles promoting the violence against animals, dogs in particular (as it seems that you value them more than the muslims) ?

would you find it " a lot of interesting"? How about posting every day pictures of tortured dogs or people killing dogs and calling to kill every dog in this world? would you find it very interesting also?

 @ceradyne,

you are defining yourself if you think that promoting a hate speech against any human collective, the muslims in this case, can be compared with "having a go at South Africans and SA rugby"

@AB. Wind in your neck, mate. I took on WD about rubbishing Saffas and SA sports. Check the third post on this very same thread. Add to that his call to stop the board. 
Having said that, you come across as quite hypocritical yourself. There has been a lot of crap that was thrown towards Christians and Christianity on here in recent times and if I remember correctly, you have been quite vocal in that as well.  
Log...... splinter...... eye.....?

 @ceradyne,

to begin with "the third post on this very same thread" is from Brycy not fron Wardad.

to continue with I don't use to get involved in the discussions here about religious issues (I'm not going to say that I've never been involved but it could be) so you are very wrongly remembering. And all this BS that I've been "quite vocal" throwing crap "towards Christians and Christianity" is an insulting lie. I challenge you to show where I have done it.

and finally, are you retarded or what is your f*cking problem? don't you understand that imputing a whole human collective for what some few members have done (like calling all the muslims rapists because some muslims have raped) and calling to expel the muslims from every western country (as Beeno1 and CleanCut have done repeatedly) is a hate speech that goes against their Human Rights, implies the ethnic or religious cleansing and it's condemn by all the Human Rights protocols?
And all this has nothing to do with "having a go at South Africans and SA rugby" or even criticizing (throwing crap if you liked more) towards christians, the christianity, the islam or the muslims.
The critic is included in the freedom of expression, the hate speech is not. I can say that christianity (or islam) has caused millions of death through history (which, by the way, is true) but I cannot call to expel or to kill all the christians (or the muslims) because they caused millions of deaths.
Get the diference or you need even more basic explanations?

Basque, there is a big problem here. To agnostics and atheists, calling the new, old or any other testament a "fairytale" is quite normal since there is the same amount of evidence for fairytales as there is for most religious works. BUT to people who base their faith on those works it's a massive insult and bordering on hate speech. That's pretty obvious. If however you try to have a reasonable conversation with many(NOT ALL) Christians about how they can and do believe what they do and attempt to look at the history of the scriptures they believe then most(NOT ALL) will eventually end up insulting you just for asking them questions. They don't want their faith questioned. Many(NOT ALL) are happy to spread their faith and attempt to convert people, and in so doing cross the boundary of a personal belief. Yet, when you ask them questions like the ones I attempted to ask CC they then retreat back behind the personal belief barrier and insult you for daring to question what they are telling you. And there is the catch. As an atheist or an agnostic you are not allowed to be offended unless directly insulted but as a Christian or a Muslim you have a much broarder category of offense. Hence you, Basque, have been accused of chucking poo over the spiritual wall. As far as Beeno and CC are concerned, it's not possible to have a reasonable conversation with either of them. I've met many like them before, and I'm sure you have too. But i think it's still very important to treat each person as an individual because at some point somebody will come along who is truly religious yet also very objective and does not only see the world from their own perspective, and I think that though you and i may not be religious, we can learn a lot from somebody like that. Also, since we are not necessarily into the "turn the other cheeck" business I say if any so-called Christian insults you...give it back to him ten-fold. He is not coming from any moral highground and certainly doesn't deserve anymore respect than any other person...less in fact, if he is a hypocrite.

 This is a discussion board, mainly for rugby and rugby related issues, but I find issues other than rugby interesting. Religion, Atheism and Global Warming are all valid topics. If you don't like it, don't read it. 

 Its embarrassing have poor wimpie warped DUD crying like a baby like this. The halfwit (apologies to halfwits) thinks he can have a go, sprout a huge lot of garbage and nobody must say a word or make contributions the poor dear doesnt like.Warped DUD ab ass and wee plumpie rant away with next to no substance and complain at my informative and useful contributions!
ab ass nobody is interested in your politically correct garbage here. USA and Europe are in mortal danger of jihad through immigration and muslim population growth. muslim terror around the world dominates world news. I have shown conclusively that all this stems from the koran. Nothing hateful about this only facts. You lot unfortunately find the truth hateful and want to suppress. The main stream media has tried every trick it knows to suppress the truth but is all coming apart. Give it up you are loosing the information battle.
A more lame bunch is hard to imagine!! 

 hey warped DUID here is a nice new loser avatar for you 
This guy has to be on of the biggest political twits around

plumpie doubtless your muslim pals would love to kill me and my family and anybody else who opposes this terrible worldview. Its the way they are. Like warped DUD wanting to put christians down as rapid dogs. Same spirit.
However they are going to have to do a huge amount of killing as opposition to them is rising all around the world and people are not being silenced by terror as the bloggers on the internet show and the people of Paris also demonstrate.
You cant be so anti the infidels without a comeback and its happening.
I can see ou plumpie is full of threats all of which are cowardly. Go and ask mummy to wipe away your tears plumpie and ask yourself should you be posting of a grown ups board. Bwahahhahahahahahahaha 

 warped DUD, ab ass and wee plumpie - if the truth is so unpalatable take te advice given and dont read it. Some are interetsed and find it helpful some biggots like you lot dont.
Its amazing how these three halfwits (apologies to halfwits) alway miss the obvious.I think these delusional oaks need to learn that they do not run this board or prescribe the content. Their totalitarian natures lead them to think they do. Its an education for them to learn otherwise. These left wing PC nutters always want to sh ut everyone up.Away with warped DUD, ab ass and wee plumpie! 

 To agnostics and atheists, calling the new, old or any other testament a "fairytale" is quite normal since there is the same amount of evidence for fairytales as there is for most religious works. BUT to people who base their faith on those works it's a massive insult and bordering on hate speech
Can any body be as ignorant at poor wee plumpie!! Do you know for instance that Luke has been ranked as a great historian.   You simply have no clue whatsoever but are a brain washed result of the main stream media.

Very few writers have ever had their accuracy put to such a severe test as St. Luke, on account of the wide field covered by his writings, and the consequent liability (humanly speaking) of making mistakes; and on account of the fierce attacks to which he has been subjected. It was the fashion, during the nineteenth century, with German rationalists and their imitators, to ridicule the "blunders" of Luke, but that is all being rapidly changed by the recent progress of archæological research. Harnack does not hesitate to say that these attacks were shameful, and calculated to bring discredit, not on the Evangelist, but upon his critics, and Ramsay is but voicing the opinion of the best modern scholars when he calls St. Luke a great and accurate historian. Very few have done so much as this latter writer, in his numerous works and in his articles in "The Expositor", to vindicate the extreme accuracy of St. Luke. Wherever archæology has afforded the means of testing St. Luke's statements, they have been found to be correct; and this gives confidence that he is equally reliable where no such corroboration is as yet available. For some of the details see ACTS OF THE APOSTLES, where a very full bibliography is given.

One of the great archeaologits of the 19th century and early 20th, Sir William Ramsay, who spent 15 years attempting to undermine Luke's credentials as a historian, and to refute the reliability of the New Testament, finally concluded: "Luke is a historian of the first rank . . . This author should be placed along with the very greatest of historians. "

Compare this to wee plumpie's arrogant and clueless assertions. Then the poor dear wails about Beeno being nasty to him by exposing his drivel. Bwahahhahahahaha wee plumpie has a lot of growing up to do!Meanwhile poor ab ass must find the internet a very unpleasant place given how muslims like him are getting a roatsing. Best try and close down the internet eh ab ass. You see ab ass folk around the world are very unimpressed by muslim violence on infidels and their plans to bring everyone under sahria law. I am putting it politely of course so as not to offend your delicate feelings.
Plumpie your questions are very loaded and your single intent to is demean Christianity at every turn. On the other side your support for muslims is clear to all here.