Eggchaser top ten picks for number 7

As I vowed this video, I couldn't but wonder what Eggchaser would think of the boards mamparas Mozzietard and Card!!!

Ou mozzietard and his little echo will no doubt think poor Eggchaser knows nothing about rugby. Indeed for these two loons and a couple of others here only they know DuToit is no more than a process tackle.

Indeed what would Eggchaser say if he learnt Erasmus was just a lucky coach!!!

I had to assume he like any informed Bok supporters wouldn't linger here too long.

To Eggchaser Du Toit is his pick as the greatest ever Bok.

It gives and indication of what a monumental error was made by poor Mozzietard and Card and a few others.

Enjoy the video and perhaps the ignorant here could learn something.

Lekke lekke!!!!

PSDT walks it, especially the way he is playing these days

"Pieter-Steph du Toit is the best forward I have ever seen in the flesh."

Quite a statement from someone who has earned an international reputation for astute rugby analysis.

I'm pretty sure that will not go down too well in that snapping, snarling and spiteful little world where PSdT is a plodder, but it's nice to see that kind of recognition from someone who actually knows something about rugby.

I'm quite sure this is the only rugby message board in the world where PSdT is slagged off as a process-tackling donkey by such a high proportion of posters. I honestly shudder when I think of regular rugby lovers reading this board and seeing some of the ignorant and juvenile bile which is regularly spewed at a truly legendary Springbok.

Greatest Springbok of all time? Not 100% sure I agree with Eggchaser there . . . but Pieter-Steph is definitely in that conversation.

Haha mine was in Spanish, all I saw was a commentator whining in Spanish and a still image of Dud. So I’ll give you my power grades:

A=excellent…3 points

B=above average….2 points

C= below average….1 point

D= fail…0 points

So here is Dud Toit:

Ball carrying…D…0

Passing …C…1

Kick off receiving B…2

Pick and Go….A….3

Lineouts…B…2

Maul support …B…2

Process Tackling A…3

Tackle in space …C …1

Jackal activity ..D…0

Totals

Dud Toit 14 points

Average 13.5

Implied Egg Yolk rating 27

Inferred Hype factor 13.

Highest hype factor ever recorded Luke Watson 18

mozart

With due respect you are talking shit in the case of Du Toit. Your own idea about Du Toit is just about zero when it comes to rugby intelligence, Tio me help you ot with D u Toit's ratin g

Ball carrying…A…3

Passing …A 3

Kick off receiving A…3

Pick and Go….A….3

Lineouts…A…3

Maul support …B…2

Process Tackling A…3

Tackle in space A …3

Try-scoring A 3

M o M and Player of the Year A ....3

Mozart for fun - give us your sessment on Mostert. i really need a good laugh..

All embarrassing for savvy Bok supporters posting here.

I like EggChasers, but he's for sure a fluff guy.

It's fun watching his reactions to games, but in terms of analysis, everybody is a rockstar as far as he's concerned.

It's far more beneficial to sing everybody's praises than it is to speak honestly about players who underperform and make clear concise arguments for players that they feel would do better. The machines like the likes...tis $$$.

Apart from a few loons on this board DuToit praises are sung far and wide.

I doubt.even 01% of people think Du Toit is merely a process tackler.

But when you get both Du Toit and Rassie so wrong it means you are either stupid, too proud to admit your horrendous mistake or you simply can't stand the Boks.

As I said it's emabassung to think what people visiting this board think when viewing these absurd posts by unhinged loons and anti Bok posters.

Show me the numbers HasBeen, your ‘proof’ is the opinion of others. The only number that I have ever seen quoted was the number of tackles made in the WC final, but look at the rest of the WC. He tackled at 80%, about average. His defenders beaten, metres gained per run are well below average…..and he hardly offloaded in the whole WC. Which means he simply died with the ball doing nothing.

Where is the beef man?

Do you really think I would waste my time with a total bigot like you. Nothing and I mean NOTHING, no amount of evidence will get you to admit your monumental BLUNDER. Or should I say blunders.

Over the years the evidence has been given all to no avail.

You are such a clown that you virtually alone have these daft ideas you keep pedaling.

So no I won't go running off to get the stats to please you. Hahahahaha crash goes the mozzietard!

Can you imagine poor Mozzietard sitting around a table with Rassie, Mallet, Egg Chaser and rugby men etc trying to convince them that Du Toit is nothing special. They would have him certified! ??????

No evidence just opinion…no examples. But I’ll give you an example …..trying to be kind. Look at the Irish test we lost last year. The second last play, Ireland gets the ball from the lineout, their ball carrier falls right at Dud’s feet, it’s a perfect Jackaling option, but at worst he needed to drive over the ball.

What does Dud do, he bottles out of the fetch, allows Ireland to recycle without any opposition….drop kick, game lost. Opportunity to put one over the team that beat us at the WC gone.

That was a classic Dud reaction, he simply has no instinct to secure the ball on the deck…..I’d ask Dr Lucky and Egg Yolk to justify that Irish incident.

But we all know the reason you won’t try to defend Dud with numbers is….you’d lose. I’d wipe the floor with you.

And HasBeen, you calling anybody else a bigot is hilarious.

Mozart

hat th e dfuck is ajckalding - it was never done by ou ero Mostert

Ball carrying…C…1

Passing …C 1

Kick off receiving B 2

Pick and Go….D 0

Lineouts…B…2

Maul support … D O

Process Tackling A…3

Tackle in space D 0

Try-scoring C 1

M o M and Player of the Year D....0

Tryscoring scored 4 tries in 81 tests - Du Toit 13 in 92 tests

Moster is pushed out of ball protection by backline players - never any evidence he was capable of any ball protection

Moster virtually never got balls from opposition throw-ins. Recently he does not even accept resonsib lity in line-outs, Own throw-ins goes more to Du Toit than to Mostert.

Tackle in space - in the 2019 RWC he was dropped from the sarting line up because backline blayers ran straight through his defesme.

Mostert was always a fringe player when proper locks were injured,

By the way - in earlier posts you blame D u toit for not charging down the drop kick - now you invented otther shit about the same incident.

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Poor old mozzietard he just insisting he is right. I am right he squeals the whole world bar a few nutjobs on this board are all wrong. I know more about the game than everybody barring a few nutjobs on this board.

Sorry mozzietard you are done and dusted. Cred is totally shot.

Time to man up and apologise!

' Crecld totally shot.

Time to man up and apogies!'

Says the man that can’t even write or spell properly?? Now he claims he knows more about Rugby then everybody??

Davies will definitely claim otherwise ou Beeno Biscuits…..

Shame man get a grip you lunatic cheerleader.

Get a grip on the shit you publish regularly on site, I corect mistakes - you cannot ever correct B S spreading on site,

Uncle BS i was speaking to Beeno Biscuits, not to you:) catch a wake up, drink a cup of tea and carefully read my post again….

Since when are you a grammar/spelling Nazi M?...moenie vergeet om voor jou eie deur te vee nie.

Draad ek maak n punt daarvan om my posts te double check, mar Dankie vir die reminder …:)

Die punt is, as Beeno Drol vir Moz wil aan val, dan moet hy eerstens sy feite agter mekaar kry en tweedens ten minste skryf soos n groot mens en nie soos n kleuter skool Kind nie….Wat n Poephol Se ek vir jou :)

Toe ewe skielik val Oom Kak Praat uit die bus uit en dink toe ek praat Met hom….Kak Snaaks:)

"Can you imagine poor Mozzietard sitting around a table with Rassie, Mallet, Egg Chaser and rugby men etc trying to convince them that Du Toit is nothing special. They would have him certified! ??????"

They would all just look at each other and laugh.

Again? Seriously? Why persist with this myth?

If you're going to claim Du Toit is the best flanker in the world, then bring the data: tackles made, breakdown turnovers, ruck arrivals, meters gained, missed tackles, penalties conceded, and the timestamps to back it up.

I've gone through the footage frame by frame. I know exactly what Du Toit does well... decent line speed (in the wrong direction) and reliable positional awareness (exploitable, in other words), and what he doesn’t. He’s not the most dominant in contact, he’s not the most dynamic with ball in hand, and his impact efficiency (work-to-result ratio) doesn’t compare to the top 20 flanks in SH rugby.

Let’s deal in facts, not fanboy folklore.

"Can you imagine poor Mozzietard sitting around a table with Rassie, Mallet, Egg Chaser and rugby men etc trying to convince them that Du Toit is nothing special. They would have him certified! ??????"

They'd be asked for specifics and suddenly the analysis would turn emotional, they'd start tripping over their own fabrications and aim for him instead. The sure sign of an intellectual pauper.

If a player performs there are all manner of stats that document that performance….if you can’t find it in the numbers it doesn’t exist. Fifteen minutes in a test may go by without Dud doing a thing….and then he appears making a decent tackle and the commentators gush. ‘He has a huge engine’.

It’s hype generated first in South Africa and picked up by the world rugby press. Du Toit had 2 strong WC finals, because the game plan was kick and defend, and he was number one process tackler. And I’m sure by now his reputation is intimidating, that probably has an effect.

But his production remains one dimensional….process tackles.

Waffle waffle BS...lol...plain numbers does not reflect the context...

If you can’t find it in any numbers it doesn’t exist….maar miskien is hy die Skim. Now there’s a thought Draadtjie.

Mr Draad, are you drunk? What have I asked for? What have I forewarned about my preparation? Do pay attention now Mr Draad.

He wasn’t especially convincing in either final, least of all the second, when the Boks were ragged. The irony is that the 2019 final was won largely by players Dawie tends to dislike, which makes using that win to defend Erasmus beautifully self-defeating… and rather hilarious.

There is some sense to an "emotional argument" for PSDT.

Say, like an opening batter that always sticks around a little. He may average low but you know that he's gonna give you 25 to 30 runs every time and see the shine off the ball.

His numbers won't look great, but the middle order can rest easy knowing that, unless it goes badly tits up, they'll only come in somewhere after the 15th over.

I suppose, in that sense the guy offers something, some sense of emotional comfort to his side that isn't too visible in the stats.

So perhaps PSDT is seen somewhat in that sort of light. An intimidation, rallying, or some other not perfectly quantifiable factor that leans more toward the abstract.

That's the best argument I can make and it's probably not one the hype train passengers above have considered much, if at all.

If you're making, or agreeing, with the claim of PSDT's greatness then the onus of proof does rest on you.

And it's really not the end of the world if somebody asks you to lay it out for them.

Of course, appealing to authority starts you off on the weaker foot, but we're used to that from this crowd by now.

Plum

You apparently have not discovered why often in the backline or outside of the wings yet, Terrible to be as pooras you are in performance evaluation, Two try assists should maybe help you out on that issue.

I enjoy your rugby contributions on site very much - knowing that they are always ridiculous and good for a laugh,

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Du Toit was crowned before he ever arrived. This goes all the way to 2014. This is an unfortunate mallady of the South African rugby community. The reputation devoid of substance. These positions are seldom corrected by the body of evidence.

"I enjoy your rugby contributions on site very much - knowing that they are always ridiculous and good for a laugh,"

Yeah Mike, good on ya.

'You apparently have not discovered why often in the backline or outside of the wings yet, Terrible to be as pooras you are in performance evaluation, Two try assists should maybe help you out on that issue.‘-

Huh?? Hey Uncle are you drunk?? Stop Preaching to other’s about ridiculous Posts. Just have a look in the Mirror first:)

I think this is what you intended to write: 'You apparently haven’t figured out why he’s often in the backline or out wide near the wings. It’s terrible how poor your player evaluation skills are. Maybe the two try assists should help you understand that.'

Get it right Uncle….Rather start the morning with a cup of tea and a Marie Biscuit:)

The loons are at it again.

Their attempts to belittle Du Toit and Rassie have blown up on them and they have disappeared under tons of EGG. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Poor Mampara power finds comfort in some typos of mine. His relief is palpable and hilarious to behold.

Two World player of the Year awards mean nothing to these Mamparas. The praise of tbe international rugby community means nothing to them. They are right and everybody is totally wrong.

Oh the conceit of these nutjobs!

But to even the casual observer their animis towards Rassie, Du Toit and tbe Boks as a whole was very apparent after the second Rassie World cup win. Poor Card was in a complete froth and nervous breakdown and Mozzietard not much better.

These two loons were unable to cope emotionally and were left fully unmasked. Year of lies and propaganda had blow up in their faces in tbe most devastating way possible! Hahahahahaha. didnt they deserve it

But mozzietards lack of Judgement extended into the political arena. First he made the blunder of backing Ron against Trump as Trump could not win the presidency. When that failed he switched his support to warmongering NeoCon Nikki Haley who would ensure his Raytheon shares would climb. Again it was all because Trump could not win.

Man the guy lives in the States and still has no clue as to what is going on.

I see the other day he was supporting illegals in the US. Being the Globalist he is he wants a World without borders and all tbe other evils these Globist scumbags want to foist on humanity believing he somehow will not be part of the herd that is culled.

The guy lacks Judgement. He fabricates cases and when they are shown to be ludicrous he doubles down. This of course makes him a comic figure as he pedals his drivel on the board.

So again the challenge show me anybody who has made greater blunders than mozzietard and card. Trashing Rassie and Du Toit was the heights of stupidity. Nobody can correctly say otherwise.

It is a pity Plum has thrown in his lot with these two hapless propagandists. Perhaps he will eventually wake up.

...then make the argument for PSDT, don't list awards that are not based on statistics.

I've tried to steer you towards constructive debate.

Tell us about the intangibles, or the stats we're missing.

What stats are the clowns after?

His carrying in traffic is the same as the likes of Eben, Lood and RG

His tackle count is higher which makes sense given he is at 7 - tackles include a number of dominant tackles

His value out wide has increased under Brown ball - playing a good attacking and linking role

His work in the line outs is spot on.

He has a huge engine

Stats tell you very little as they provide zero context - I’d give stats 20% of the picture

PSDT is not good, he is phenomenal. Always a standout on the field - even more so these days with his attacking duties

By some distance the best 7 in the game and easily the best 7 the Boks have ever had and also one of the best players the Boks have ever seen

You don’t need stats to tell you that - just watch the great man play

EG Du Toit often has the highest tackling stats.

But I have something much better than any stats. Two eyes that work and a functioning brain.

There can be no constructive conversation with smear merchants with an agenda who have rejected fact after fact over ten tedious years or so.

Admit you are a microscopic minority howling at the moon!

You have no chance in hell of ever winning this argument.

Best thrown in the towel, offer a sincere apology and hope Bok supporters have the grace to forgive you for years of drivel.

His carrying in traffic is the same as the likes of Eben, Lood and RG - Stats

His tackle count is higher which makes sense given he is at 7 - tackles include a number of dominant tackles - Stats

His value out wide has increased under Brown ball - playing a good attacking and linking role - More stats

His work in the line outs is spot on. - Stats

He has a huge engine - distance travelled per game is, aaaaaaaa stat.

then...

"Stats tell you very little as they provide zero context - I’d give stats 20% of the picture"

You mention only stats, and attributes verifiable or refutable with stats, but then you say that stats don't mean anything. So are you saying "Here are some of his amazing stats but they don't really matter...because I think he's great."? Or are you saying "These are his stats and they make him great."

Yes, Beeno, we know, tell us more. Keep going and flabbergast us all.

Dud Toit WC stats:

Tackling:

Scotland 7/3

Ireland … 13/1

France …. 9/5

England 9/0

All Blacks. 28/3

Total……..Dud Toit 66/12

% made….Dud Toit. 85%

Overall 13 tackles a game at 85% success, solid but not unusual

Ball carrying ….runs/metres/defenders beaten/clean breaks/offloads/ lost

Scotland 7/27/0/0/0/2

Ireland. 6/8/0/0/1/ 1

France. 7/18/0/0/0/1

England. 8/14/2/0/0/0

All Blacks. 5/27/0/2/0/0

Total. 33/94/2/2/1/4.

So Dud ran the ball 33 times and gained 94 metres at just below 3 a carry. But his two big gaining games against Scotland and the ABs came with no defenders beaten. In other words he was running through open field.

In 33 runs he broke the line twice! And in 4 of five games, 31 of 33 runs he never beat a tackle. And he offloaded exactly once, which meant not only did he not provide any penetration he just died with the ball.

But that was the good news, 4 times he coughed up the ball. That’s a negative 100 metres right there wiping out his meagre 94 metres gained..

That’s a total fail in running.

There are no other ESPN stats, so I can’t comment on his lineout work. But ordinary defending and toothless ball carrying to me doesn’t add up to the best Bok loosie at the WC, let alone the best Springbok of all time,

...then I guess it's not in the stats.

So it must be intangibles.

I expect more chest pounding presented as evidence.

I do expect that Plum…..but if a player can’t register his contributions in fundamental variables like meters gained, tackles made and defenders beaten….it’s equivalent to a batsman’s averages being irrelevant. In short their arguments are really just excuses.