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England driven by 'fear of failure'; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Nov 2014, 21:38
#1
27 Nov 2014, 21:38#1

England captain Chris Robshaw is in no doubt that England's November international series will be judged a failure if they lose to Australia at Twickenham on Saturday.

This weekend's clash will be a dress rehearsal for the old rivals match at next year's World Cup in England in a pool also involving Wales that, with only the top two teams going through to the quarter-finals, has inevitably been labelled the "group of death".

For some pundits - regardless of what England achieve against Australia - the month's campaign, where Stuart Lancaster's men have lost to both world champions New Zealand (24-21) and South Africa (31-28) at Twickenham before overcoming Samoa, has already raised worrying questions about the capability of the Red Rose back division to trouble the game's top nations.

And there is no doubt that for a team like England, who regard themselves as having a genuine chance of winning the World Cup, another loss to one of the southern hemisphere's 'big three' would be a blow 10 months out from the start of the World Cup.

"If we lose we must view this as a poor campaign. That disappointment would be tough to take for all the guys," Robshaw said, ahead of England's final match before the start of the Six Nations.

"This game is huge because our next game will be at the Millennium Stadium against Wales, so we'll be using that as big motivation.

"Ask any team in the world if they believe they should be expected to win at home and they'll say yes," the Harlequins flank added.

Nevertheless, Robshaw insisted a win over Australia - who will kick-off on the back of successive slim tour defeats by France (29-26) and Ireland (26-23) - would leave England well-placed in the run-up to 2015.

"Losing to the two best teams in the world by three points, and beating two more, is not a bad place in which to be.

"I do not think we've gone backwards, but we haven't moved forwards at the pace we were moving at in last autumn's series and in the Six Nations."

While some teams have tried to downplay the potential impact of this month's contests on the World Cup, with All Blacks coach Steve Hansen labelling any such linkage as "baloney", Robshaw is convinced a victory for Australia on Saturday would put a spring in the step of the Wallabies.

"Look at what happened before the 2007 World Cup," he said. "England played South Africa and lost and then lost to them twice during the actual tournament."

Saturday's 28-9 win over Samoa, a side who have never beaten England, brought a degree of respite although such was the difference in standard between the game Pacific Islanders and England's two previous opponents that many pundits were left lamenting the hosts' lack of a truly commanding victory.

Needless to say had the Samoans won, England would never have heard the end of it but Robshaw said dealing with increased scrutiny was all part of the build-up to the World Cup.

"We've noticed during this campaign that all the outside stuff has built up more than usual," he said.

"As Stuart Lancaster said last week, we're hosting a World Cup next year so we need to get used to this.

"We are playing one of the best teams in world rugby at one of the world's top stadiums. We can only see that as something to excite and inspire us."

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Nov 2014, 21:46
#2
27 Nov 2014, 21:46#2
 Australia vs England, a "must win" for both teams.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
28 Nov 2014, 07:32
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28 Nov 2014, 07:32#3
England might regret scheduling matches with the All Blacks, Boks and Wallabies in one tour. It could turn into the tour from hell next week if the lose to Australia. They will have lots of monkeys on their back going into next years world cup . 
It is important for Australia, but for England it would be even more of a disaster to lose. 
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
28 Nov 2014, 09:15
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28 Nov 2014, 09:15#4

Driven by the fear of failure is very much the same as bein g debilitated by the fear of failure.


They should rather be driven by the hunger to succeed. 

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
28 Nov 2014, 11:31
#5
28 Nov 2014, 11:31#5
It isn't next week, it's tomorrow.
The schedule is what it is.
And they have to deal with whatever consequences come their way. The RWC is a long way off...anything can happen between now and then. I would counsel my players to think on that. 
As I said all along, this is a WC too soon for England, in my opinion. I may be proved wrong, but I think it is. 
We shall see.  
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
28 Nov 2014, 14:29
#6
28 Nov 2014, 14:29#6
 Meh Aussies to roll england no probs .....
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
28 Nov 2014, 15:25
#7
28 Nov 2014, 15:25#7
 Insightful comments from Wardad, as always  
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
28 Nov 2014, 15:45
#8
28 Nov 2014, 15:45#8
 Ahh its the wee english sniper gurly.Based on recent english performances its all the insight thats required.
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
28 Nov 2014, 18:57
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28 Nov 2014, 18:57#9
 I'll take being called a girl...at my age, anything is a compliment  
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
28 Nov 2014, 19:40
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28 Nov 2014, 19:40#10
Becs I wouldn't be too worried...preliminary results before WC's can be misleading...I doubt if even England loses to Australia will have a negative effect...I think it well be a catalyst to spur them on to higher levels.

This psychology was been proven before...it's driven the Springboks to high levels , France seems to rise above the expectancies when humiliated...maybe a wake call for England. One thing I know about the English ...they thrive on adversity...they rise up to the occasion when all seems hopeless.

The biggest enemy in WC rugby is neglect from overconfidence...the great AB's suffer badly from this in WC's...the track record shows this.

England will a huge danger in a WC in England...that you can be very sure of.

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
28 Nov 2014, 22:33
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28 Nov 2014, 22:33#11
 Seb, I have always said I think it is a RWC too soon for England....I hope I am proved wrong, but I doubt it. 
We are not the lost cause many would make us out to be and there is a lot of Rugby for us all to play before the RWC...who knows how things will pan out for all of us by then ? 
But yes, backs to the wall is what we thrive on.....even if the poor supporters could do without it !  
We shall see what happens tomorrow.....
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
29 Nov 2014, 01:54
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29 Nov 2014, 01:54#12
 I think you will find Seb that ''victory disease '' has been purged from the ABS since 2007 .
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 Nov 2014, 02:04
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29 Nov 2014, 02:04#13

Ten months out from the WC it's fair to say the Irish have it together, England don't.

No Sir, the English don't play lik e potential WC champions. 

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
29 Nov 2014, 06:56
#14
29 Nov 2014, 06:56#14
 ''fear is the mind killer....''  engrish brains looking slightly sauteed hmmm.....
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