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Started by Mozart65 REPLIES1,112 VIEWS· 12 Aug 2023, 17:03
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2023, 17:03
#1
12 Aug 2023, 17:03#1

Pretty dull so far. Von  Poorfeet hoofs it directly into touch again and the Pom scrum gives free kicks and a penalty. All the feeling good in the world is not going to help if you can’t scrum.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2023, 17:05
#2
12 Aug 2023, 17:05#2

Yet another scrum free kick.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2023, 17:09
#3
12 Aug 2023, 17:09#3

And then the unlucky Poorfeet is gone with what looks like a serious injury…these games are really a two edged sword. I would be tempted to keep Etzebeth and Willie on the sidelines after the half in out two remaining warm ups.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Aug 2023, 17:17
#4
12 Aug 2023, 17:17#4

Another totally baffling ref call after calling advantage to Wales…hope this guy doesn’t call any of our matches at the WC.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Aug 2023, 17:55
#5
12 Aug 2023, 17:55#5
Not much longer now, Moz... ...then AI will be reffing games for us.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Aug 2023, 18:38
#6
12 Aug 2023, 18:38#6
Never saw the game I hear Farrell got red for his usual antics - will he be sanctioned some games?
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Aug 2023, 18:40
#7
12 Aug 2023, 18:40#7

AI can be hacked like US voting machines...

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
12 Aug 2023, 19:33
#8
12 Aug 2023, 19:33#8

I hope they throw the book at Farrell and give him an 8 week ban. Didn’t even attempt to wrap his are our go down, shot strait up with the shoulder. 

Also noted that with him off the field, England finally started to perform better. They managed to use their pack to drive for a try. 

So I hope this is a lesson that Ferrell should go near the England team. He just have a really bad impact on the team with his attitude 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Aug 2023, 19:43
#9
12 Aug 2023, 19:43#9
No we want him on the field so they get their arses kicked Sorry Becs
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
12 Aug 2023, 19:56
#10
12 Aug 2023, 19:56#10

And I used to like you, Saffex

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Aug 2023, 20:08
#11
12 Aug 2023, 20:08#11
Is there a more unlikeable player than Ferrell? The most punch me face in rugby.
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
12 Aug 2023, 20:13
#12
12 Aug 2023, 20:13#12

Johnny Sexton ? Liam Williams ? Dan Biggar ?

There’s quite a list.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Aug 2023, 20:55
#13
12 Aug 2023, 20:55#13
Farrel tops it by some distance followed by Sexton, White of Oz and Coles of NZ
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,225 posts
12 Aug 2023, 20:57
#14
12 Aug 2023, 20:57#14
Sexton I would punch first, followed closely by Farrell.
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becsPro4,378 posts
12 Aug 2023, 21:41
#15
12 Aug 2023, 21:41#15

See, it’s a more complex choice than one might think. 

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
12 Aug 2023, 22:22
#16
12 Aug 2023, 22:22#16

De Allende, Steph, Kolisi, or Lood. It's bad enough knowing they don't deserve anything, but having to sift through the excrement frame by frame is soul destroying. The others are not South African therefore I don't care enough to be invested in who or what they are. Farrell cannot tackle. He has the exact same flaw as $onny Bill Will.i.ain't, though the latter reveled in it. It's more shocking that no coaching staff or senior rugby head raised the issue or sought it necessary to correct the flaw. In that regard, I could list Erasmus as my main target for wanting to punch. If he knows the game as well as many think, then he knows very well what these players are doing wrong, but does nothing to correct it. That's the worst offence of all! 

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becsPro4,378 posts
12 Aug 2023, 23:24
#17
12 Aug 2023, 23:24#17

I know quite a few people who want to punch Faf ( including my mother ) and Willie le Roux. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Aug 2023, 00:52
#18
13 Aug 2023, 00:52#18
Ferrell...the kinda guy that turns up to a street fight with a knife. You know it's true.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Aug 2023, 01:34
#19
13 Aug 2023, 01:34#19

Hahahaha.. I was so bored with the first half I went off to play golf. But the second half…who doesn’t like a good comedy. Play after asinine play. The Wallies overthrowing their lineouts, the Poms being carded….and handling errors galore.


But here’s the really hilarious thing. These are the only two sides of consequence Harrassmiss beat at the WC.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Aug 2023, 10:55
#20
13 Aug 2023, 10:55#20
Yeah that same England side that thumped NZ in that WC
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
13 Aug 2023, 11:05
#21
13 Aug 2023, 11:05#21

Different game, different challenge. That England side was our best possible match up, as they don't have the set pieces to play trench warfare. Most people called the final wrong on the basis of the nature of the England-All Black test. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Aug 2023, 11:35
#22
13 Aug 2023, 11:35#22
Oh fuck off with these pathetic excuses. Pathetic desperate attempt to discredit a brilliant Bok WC victory over England Fuck off
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
13 Aug 2023, 11:39
#23
13 Aug 2023, 11:39#23

Saddex, are you really this clueless? England did not possess the tools to assert their game the way they did against New Zealand. This isn't anything other than a plain fact. Your feelings are a problem, they are always a problem. You draw conclusions entirely upon your feelings. This is why you are almost always wrong. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Aug 2023, 12:12
#24
13 Aug 2023, 12:12#24
Utter bullshit
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
13 Aug 2023, 12:55
#25
13 Aug 2023, 12:55#25

What happened at scrum time Saddex? They lacked the platform. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Aug 2023, 21:26
#26
13 Aug 2023, 21:26#26
By your logic dumbfuck it would mean England could never ever beat us as they don’t have the tools Fuck you really are profoundly stupid
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Aug 2023, 06:33
#27
14 Aug 2023, 06:33#27

Deus reveals his amazing pathological hatred of some Bok players and the coach. Uses terms like excrete ment and punch in the face etc. 

The poor guy after years of being made to look foolish by the said coach and players has become completely unhinged.

You can't take this biased oak seriously when he discusses the Boks. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
14 Aug 2023, 07:04
#28
14 Aug 2023, 07:04#28
The Boks played a perfect final. There was so much about that game that was a brilliant advert for Rugby. It's showed what perfect set piece dominance looks like. It showed how rugby rewards winning the attritional war and how all the grunt in rugby should be finished off with great scores. I remember reading some comments from Japanese fans and the undertone was that they witnessed something very special. ...but 1) England were flat after their AB performance and 2) in no game before or since has that ref awarded less penalties against us.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Aug 2023, 07:58
#29
14 Aug 2023, 07:58#29
True Plum, the Boks were brilliant that day they played the perfect game No side could be flat for a WC final they just got dominated
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
14 Aug 2023, 08:37
#30
14 Aug 2023, 08:37#30

There are arguments both ways Saffex.

However, when you watch the two games side by side, there is a notable difference in the English.

To me, they seemed less willing to get on the front foot with some bravery.

Could be nerves along with some fear of the Bok reputation in finals.

Perhaps, that pass early on into noman's land is a sign of where England was mentally.

Regardless, I see a difference.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Aug 2023, 10:45
#31
14 Aug 2023, 10:45#31
Given the occasion being a WC final and the fact you are facing the Boks means you have to be up for that game 100% They just got physically dominated and with that followed the razzmatazz
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becsPro4,378 posts
14 Aug 2023, 11:54
#32
14 Aug 2023, 11:54#32

JVP out of the World Cup needing ankle surgery. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2023, 13:26
#33
14 Aug 2023, 13:26#33

Sorry to hear that….must be awful to get injured in a warm up.

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becsPro4,378 posts
14 Aug 2023, 13:33
#34
14 Aug 2023, 13:33#34

Yes I think you’re right, Mozart. It’s a shame for him. 

Alex Mitchell has been called up. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2023, 13:55
#35
14 Aug 2023, 13:55#35
Back to the WC final. The Boks won that game because of 3 factors
One the goal line stand, thank you Mostert and oddly Malherbe.
Two the Rassie on Larkham tactic of having Dud Toit charge at George Ford. A simple side step would have ended that ploy but Ford was a deer in the headlights and master coach Eddie couldn’t find an answer
Three and most crucially the scrums. Now I ask you with tears in my eyes, did the scrum that was at parity with the Wallies become supermen in a week…..or were the Poms just awful. Given the drubbing the Beast gave Old King Cole it’s incredible he is still a Pom stalwart.
It was a strange affair, but I put it  down to those specifics and complete lack of warrior spirit from England. They thought they had won the WC when they beat NZ. Eddie probably thought he could unlock the Boks after Japan in 2015….the Boks got the sweetest revenge. Incredibly inept coaching.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Aug 2023, 14:02
#36
14 Aug 2023, 14:02#36
Rubbish Mostert missed a tackle during that goal line defence - fact Absolute bullshit that England had no warrior spirit and no side would EVER think they had won a WC final before even playing it What utter rubbish, it’s a WC final for crying out loud The attempts to discredit the best WC final performance ever is a joke The Boks and the mastermind of Rassie were simply brilliant
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2023, 14:10
#37
14 Aug 2023, 14:10#37

Not a  fact….ESPN reported no Mostert missed tackles in the entire test. So if Harrassmiss was so brilliant, how come it took a Francois Louw turnover the week before to save us from a possible Welsh loss. Did he reserve his ‘brilliance’ for the final while taking a significant risk of not even making the final?

The logic is laughable Dave. Nobody is disputing we played a great second half….but the Poms simply didn’t show.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Aug 2023, 15:26
#38
14 Aug 2023, 15:26#38
I’ve shown you the Mostert miss - ESPN got it wrong The Poms showed and they got smashed
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Aug 2023, 15:36
#39
14 Aug 2023, 15:36#39

no side would EVER think they had won a WC final before even playing it

Is this Bozo real? He talks like some AI chat bot troll. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2023, 16:02
#40
14 Aug 2023, 16:02#40

Well we could always give Dave one of those ‘name the squares with bridges’ tests. But I think his language might be a bit advanced for a troll.

> Dave…..No missed tackles by Mostert . One could almost call him the man who delivered the WC.

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