Erasmus as Head Coach of the Springboks in 50 tests

And I never said it would be better to retain Coetzee….I started 3 strings asking why Coetzee hadn’t been fired:

MozartHall Of Famer

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Sep 25, 2017, 15:39

.....thrice. How many more experts and fans have to say this, how many more huge losses have to be endured....before SA Rugby do what any other sports franchise or business would do......FIRE THE INCOMPETENT!

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Beeno1Hall Of Famer

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Sep 26, 2017, 12:11

Dr Mozzzz you are out of touch. You don't get fired in SA if you are incompetent but of the right colour. In fact here in the new racist South Africa you only get hired if you are the right colour.

And by the way Saaiman didn’t call for Erasmus…he dismissed him and said we should get serious and hire a NZ coach. Probably Plumtree who he was very high on, basically because he disliked Jake White.

Moz, this isn't about facts, it's bickering...you know you are never going to change Mike's views...what's the point of arguing with him all the time...I know he's constantly haggling you, but it's kinda pointless to respond...as it is for me to keep on responding to the Dud baiting threads...

Draad

Have you ever seen any posiive posts on Erasmus on this site or any positive posts on Du Toit and De Allende by Mozart? Name me one case where it happened and will accept it as a fact. I can give you an easy example, The semi-final against Wales in 2019 RWC. Not a single word about the try scored by De Allende in that match and Mozart reponse was the try came about because of a weak tackle attempt by Biggar and deserve to be inored as immaterial - and then he blamed to Du Toit when he was in a scrum and should have left the sscrum early to avoid a try scored by the Welsh wing. That type of BS has been a Mozart road map followed ever since 2018 and frankly I am sick of it.

Well it also shouldn’t be about lies….so no positive posts on Erasmus, another lie:

MozartHall Of Famer

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Nov 02, 2019, 19:33

Now that was what we were asking for. Not the dull tactics that barely won the Welsh test, but a softening up followed by some excellent running rugby. Perhaps the Welsh test was a rope a dope tactic, or perhaps Rassie realized we had to take a few chances.

The test was won with the massive defensive stand in the first half.....and by the Beast's total destruction of Coles. He did it in the British Lions series as well. So many questioned his selection ahead of Kitshoff, but he is the best loosehead in the game.

Vermeulen was, however, the rightful man of the match. Massive brave runs, secure kickoff receptions.....unmoveable on the deck. And there were those who wanted a Deysel twin.

Losing Lomp for Mostert, was no problem either, as Mostert was huge in the goal line defence.

Big games also by Etzebeth, Malherbe, and even Kolisi.

And really all the backs were good today. Allende was solid apart from a bad miss on May in the English in goal. Am showed great touch in the Mapimpi try. And while Kolbe's try was huge, even better was his smother tackle on Lawes when England had a big overlap. Willie found his mojo with one smart early break and fine general fullback play.

But defence was the core of this win.....England, who made a huge mistake playing Ford against this Bok defence, simply had no clue what to do by the second half. They needed Farrell at 10 and Tuilagi at 12. But by the time they made the switch, the Boks were dominant

I was delighted that we were able to score two fine tries to underscore the win.....something we were criticized for not doing in our other WCs. Scoring those tries provided the high the crowd needed.

Our return to success has come from a rejection of the expansive game and a return to traditional Bok rugby.....with massive defence and physicality. But while last week's performance was dull and risk averse.......today we added the second bit......subdue and then penetrate!

Well done Rassie that was a master class. If the Boks stick with this formula we can get back to where we were before our banning.....top dog.

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Once again I credit Erasmus for bringing back our traditional strengths…but also for producing a complete game plan in the WC final.

I understand it’s bickering, but any time the discussion is raised beyond simple likes and dislikes the foul mouthed personal attacks begin. Why not have a Board where we debate views rather than lie about each other?

One can dbate veows provided the views are based on facts and not fiction. Your petty hate of Erasmus stemmed from what you admitted elesewhere - letting down St White in 2007. You made an assumption proved elsewhere as BS. Your Morzoscopes i 2015 ws total B S and ne could not in watching the match a number of times - there were no cases at what you wrote and what actually happened.

I can remember how you claimed that you are the best rugby performance analyst in the world in 2015. But your analysis was so biased it never count for anything since the facts were ignored and biased BS took over,

Uncle you are so full it, that you don’t even realise it anymore…

Anything that doesn’t fall in-line with your narrative, even actual compliments, falls in your BS category…

Not all criticism is hate. Read post’s properly…

Mozart

And by the way Saaiman didn’t call for Erasmus…he dismissed him and said we should get serious and hire a NZ coach. Probably Plumtree who he was very high on, basically because he disliked Jake White.

No Mozart I did not know about the Erasmus situation at the time was and did not see any S A coach being available then. The credible SA coaches were either contracted in Europe or locally totally discredited, Under those circumstances my reaction was different to what it was four months later when Erasmus was appointed by SARU and the situation became clarified,

Read properly what Mozart said about Erasmus and that he was biased against him - hence his weekly attacks on Erasmus on this site, You may learn something from that, The story about "Dr Lucky" protray hatrd - not legitimate rugby criticism. That is what I classified as hate-speech,

I aso differ from some Erasmus squad and team selections and clearly critcized that in postings - but I do not start weekly attacks on Erasmus and some playes like Mozart does.

I for instance am accused of campaigns against Esterhuizen but I have never started a thread on him. I have seen him as a loosie and he shined in the matches he played for the Springboks in that position, That is on f he rare issues wher I believe Whte was right and Erasmus did Eserhuizen a favor by using him as a loosie, He is a much better player than he is as a center I quite sstrongly support him as a loosie.

I always tried to see what the difference between fact and fiction is and do not have to depend on so-called ESPN stats. I realize we do not have the detailed info on actual performances of individual players that good coaches and even the media institutions have at their disposals,

I also saw what happened in he case of to White during the coaching career starting in 2004. It happened repeatedly ove the years and his firings were always based on the same reasons, I aso realize that up to quite recently the provincial franchises were taken over by private investors and they have their own reasons for some actions. Private business conmcerns center arond making profits from their investments and part of their decisionmaking in the case of White and Pinetree is part and parcel of that issue. It is not confined to SA.- it happened to Meyer at Stade rancais and Coetzee in Japan as well.

Lastly I do not differ on issues like on test level Kolisi is a very average player - but that is he is a counter used in the poisonous SA political environment. that damaged sports in SA and that in tha envionment Erasmus play a vey astute role to keep politicians from meddling in rugby,

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