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Erasmus's remarks on Scotland test

Started by clevermike55 REPLIES930 VIEWS· 19 Nov 2018, 14:04
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Nov 2018, 18:58
#41
21 Nov 2018, 18:58#41

No - you do not give a shit about facts ever,   It is evident that the discussion includes  kicks at goal ahead of penalty  corner kicks,  which is where the usage of mauls is of vital importance.   

In all the above cases it happened twice and the reason was the Springboks needed a try to win and kicks at goal at that's tage would not have helped.   The buggered up the first ball when the throw went to Snyman and after the second throw went to Mostert - the maul went backwards and Mostert was lifted off the ground,   It was when Du Toit took over and he and Vermeulen caused the maul to start going forward, resulting in the try being scored.

Now stop whining and start thinking about a proper rugby discussion.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
21 Nov 2018, 19:22
#42
21 Nov 2018, 19:22#42
“Posted by: clevermike (33048 posts) Nov 21, 2018, 18:58 No - you do not give a shit about facts ever, It is evident that the discussion includes kicks at goal ahead of penalty corner kicks, which is where the usage of mauls is of vital importance. “ It is actually on the facts that I nail you every time. I have checked the facts on the mauls. I gave you the facts on the EOYT so far. I have, in the meantime, also checked the Rugby Championship. We used the maul less in two games. In one we and NZ used it five times each.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Nov 2018, 20:14
#43
21 Nov 2018, 20:14#43

Doffies

I tried to be civil - but you are stretching my patience.   Dimness the argument was twofold -

*    the comments made by Erasmus about the problem of rolling mauls deficiency in the Springboks; and

*    the fact that the team kicked at goal and did not make corner kicks to be followed by the most important rolling mauls.

I gave the facts about the second issue and it did go straight over your head.   Why should I bother - you cannot understand anything.      

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
21 Nov 2018, 22:02
#44
21 Nov 2018, 22:02#44

"I gave the facts about the second issue...."

For some reason you just do not understand that your opinion does necessarily constitute a fact.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Nov 2018, 01:24
#45
22 Nov 2018, 01:24#45

Dimness - not opinion - but facts.,  Denying that normally the teams like the AB's will make penalty corner kicks especially earlier in the games.   

Aside from the AB's, against SA it was constantly done by England - France and Scotland.   Why that - while we did not do it - but for two penalties late in the French game - when a kick at goal would not have helped SA to win the game.

In all the other cases it never happened, why?   Because, what Erasmus said, it was unacceptable that SA driving mauls became ineffective and not used anymore. 

However, ignoring facts shows a degree of stupidity beyond belief.       

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
22 Nov 2018, 10:38
#46
22 Nov 2018, 10:38#46
“Posted by: clevermike (33061 posts) Nov 22, 2018, 01:24 Dimness - not opinion - but facts., ..” Which facts? Quote them. I have given you facts about the mauls. Let me repeat that. The mauls. I have only been talking about the mauls, right from the start. Nothing about the kicks. Nada. Niks. Zilch.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Nov 2018, 11:30
#47
22 Nov 2018, 11:30#47

Ceradunce

Because you are utterly ignorant does not make for discussion and that is exactly why discussion with idiots is impossible. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
22 Nov 2018, 13:01
#48
22 Nov 2018, 13:01#48
Just as I thought. You have nothing to backup your opinion/theory.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Nov 2018, 13:10
#49
22 Nov 2018, 13:10#49

I gave a full explanation and it is not theory or opinion - but you were too stupid to realize what was discussed.    

I gave the reference to what Erasmus said in public.  I gave the issue as to penalty goal kicks and penalty corner kicks.   I gave the full reason why it happened twice in the French test.    The issue should have been understood by a grade 2 pupil - but not by you.   Why?       

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
22 Nov 2018, 22:56
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22 Nov 2018, 22:56#50
Explanation based on which facts? You said that the “rolling maul” was virtually absent from the Springbok rugby attack. I then check the facts and they contradict your “facts”. That makes your “facts” nothing but an opinion or a theory. A theory can only become a fact once it is proven beyond any doubt.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Nov 2018, 05:18
#51
23 Nov 2018, 05:18#51

What facts did you check - piss brain?   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
23 Nov 2018, 05:59
#52
23 Nov 2018, 05:59#52

Are you calling Cera a piss brain, or asking if he consulted piss brain for facts? 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Nov 2018, 06:30
#53
23 Nov 2018, 06:30#53

He is slightly worse than you bird brain.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Nov 2018, 21:42
#54
24 Nov 2018, 21:42#54
“Posted by: clevermike (33122 posts) Nov 23, 2018, 05:18 What facts did you check - piss brain? ” I just noticed that you are still ducking and diving. I told you. I checked the number of mauls by the Boks compared to their opponents in the RC and the EOYT up to the test against Scotland.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Nov 2018, 22:19
#55
24 Nov 2018, 22:19#55

First of all AO checked it too and came up with 2 that were no rolling mauls at all.  He does not know what a  rolling maul is - do you?  

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Nov 2018, 22:45
#56
24 Nov 2018, 22:45#56
I gave you the exact explanation of a maul elsewhere, straight from the law book. You guys were arguing about the number of players required to constitute a maul and I quoted the law. Go check. It seems you are the one shooting blanks when it comes to mauls. This was the part of my post about mauls. Posted by: Ceradyne (7072 posts) Nov 22, 2018, 13:31 There we go with the self defined goalposts again. Go check Law 16. This is what the law has to say about the forming of a maul. “1. A maul can take place only in the field of play. 2. It consists of a ball-carrier and at least one player from each team, bound together and on their feet. 3. Once formed, a maul must move towards a goal line.”
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